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This is a good analysis of the Senate's budget deal and what the House may do.
https://goo.gl/mYa8k2
1. Democrats won what they have been looking for since 2011 an end to the painful cap on domestic spending. Both parties now can claim credit for fully funding the military...
3. Pro-DACA advocates ironically have a better shot at getting a deal than they did when they were tying DACA to the budget. The reason: McConnell promised a shell bill will be put on the floor, allowing free-flowing amendments. If there are 60 votes (as backers of DACA insist), then they will get their bill out of the Senate regardless of what Stephen Miller or John F. Kelly or Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) want. Moreover, that bill very well could have none of the poison pills Trump wants stuffed into the deal (e.g., limits on legal immigration).
4. But the House wont vote for DACA? That is likely the case, but the only shot the DACA proponents have is to pass the bill our of the Senate and apply pressure to Ryan to bring it to the House floor. If he does not (very possible), he and his fellow Republicans on the ballot in 2018 will face the voters. His insistence that he wont allow a vote on a bill that Trump/Miller/Cotton dont like will be evidence of his failure to fulfill his role as speaker of a co-equal branch. Moreover, just about everyone in town knows that if both houses pass a DACA fix, Trump wont have the nerve to oppose it.
bigtree
(86,006 posts)...accurate.
mcar
(42,388 posts)I'm so old, I remember it.
While @POTUS threatens shutdowns & stalemates, Congress has done the hard work of finding compromise & consensus. We have reached a budget deal that neither side loves but both sides can be proud of. Thats compromise. Thats governing. We should do more of it.
mcar
(42,388 posts)They've got to be quaking in their expensive shoes.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)That Election in Missouri last night,might have been the straw.
...with Democrats projected to have a decent chance of taking the Senate, this may be his last chance to have an upper hand in actual passed budget legislation.
Along that line, he also would need to repair his relationship with the potential new Senate leader.
mcar
(42,388 posts)and reasonable.
tazkcmo
(7,303 posts)I believe Shitgibon will veto the bill (Probably the pocket type because he really is a coward) and make lots of noise about the lack of limits on immigration (Dems happy to give your jobs to illegal rapists and murderers!!!) so he can strut around his red neck barn yard, crowing how tough he is. That's the only thing I disagree with. Hope I'm wrong.
bigtree
(86,006 posts)...they have to reach that 60-vote hurdle to pass the Senate anyway.
67 to override in the Senate and 290 in the House
tazkcmo
(7,303 posts)Any bill that they did pass would need that be passed with a veto-proof majority
FSogol
(45,532 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Hello, you're new here, aren't you?
mcar
(42,388 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The notion that Trump won't have the nerve to do something incredibly venial, self-destructive, dishonest, cruel, or just plain stinky is just ludicrous, and makes me wonder how long the writer of the piece has been conscious.
Yeah, that's a good point. I do wonder if he would even have a clue what he's signing. A win is a win, after all.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)They may have a better chance of getting it out of the Senate, but I'm not sure how this gives anyone a "better" chance of getting something through the house.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)There are the voters in the house to pass this budget bill. But the Pee Party will go ape shit. If he does not pass it the shut down in all on the republicans.
Ryan had a bad day.
pansypoo53219
(21,004 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)The painful cap was only to control the deficit. Apparently that doesn't matter to any party any more and in a time when the republicans just blew it up now we can say Hey we helped!
The idea that DACA stands a better chance now just seems laughable on it's face after removing the leverage we had with the debt ceiling.