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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 06:03 PM Feb 2018

Breaking :Russians penetrated U.S. voter systems, says top U.S. official

The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election.

In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra, the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn't talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, "We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated."


Jeh Johnson, who was DHS secretary during the Russian intrusions, said, "2016 was a wake-up call and now it's incumbent upon states and the Feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked again."


"We were able to determine that the scanning and probing of voter registration databases was coming from the Russian government."


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/russians-penetrated-u-s-voter-systems-says-top-u-s-n845721?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

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Breaking :Russians penetrated U.S. voter systems, says top U.S. official (Original Post) octoberlib Feb 2018 OP
GOP is helping them do this. We are at war with GOP and KGB Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1
This isn't really "news" but I'm glad it's been revived and reiterated RandomAccess Feb 2018 #2
I am as well. triron Feb 2018 #3
There is so much scandal and everyday drama with this administration that octoberlib Feb 2018 #6
More info RandomAccess Feb 2018 #7
I remember some of these. Thanks for the links! octoberlib Feb 2018 #9
Excellent thorough post. triron Feb 2018 #15
A few minutes ago on the 11th hour some lame brain pundit triron Feb 2018 #38
Duh! malaise Feb 2018 #4
Let's ask Cambridge Analytica. Wwcd Feb 2018 #10
Wouldn't surprise me if they were let in. octoberlib Feb 2018 #14
I seem to recall the number is significantly higher than 21 (later update). triron Feb 2018 #5
I remember 30, too. octoberlib Feb 2018 #8
They wouldnt have done all that work just to look around Takket Feb 2018 #11
BINGO!!! We have the winner here, ladies and gents. BINGO!!!! Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #13
+1,000,000! dchill Feb 2018 #22
ODNI on Oct 7 2016 triron Feb 2018 #12
I remind everyone: the "margin" was an aggregate of 77K votes in 3 states Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #16
The fact that Russia has penetrated voter registration records is bad Gothmog Feb 2018 #17
Thanks, Goth.. I posted Seth Cha Feb 2018 #27
And this, from WAPO, 3 weeks after the election: cilla4progress Feb 2018 #18
That makes me feel so frustrated and sad renate Feb 2018 #28
knr triron Feb 2018 #19
kick again triron Feb 2018 #20
What will happen this year when the elections go to the Rs? ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #21
I'll bet there will be more coming out. dchill Feb 2018 #23
I agree about the trickle... cilla4progress Feb 2018 #29
Not a shred of evidence for that. triron Feb 2018 #31
I can doubt what you say... dchill Feb 2018 #35
at this point i would assume the entire national election system is perforated with Russians 0rganism Feb 2018 #24
That's what a lot of us having Cha Feb 2018 #25
i.e. we're screwn spanone Feb 2018 #26
Also, by his statements today Tillorsen effectively cilla4progress Feb 2018 #30
Tillerson's comments... wysi Feb 2018 #33
As long as the GOP can win elections anything goes, including Russian election invasions. democratisphere Feb 2018 #32
This edhopper Feb 2018 #34
Thank you! triron Feb 2018 #36
Bring back paper ballots dreamland Feb 2018 #37
This is how the GOP plans to win. UCmeNdc Feb 2018 #39
kick again triron Feb 2018 #40

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
6. There is so much scandal and everyday drama with this administration that
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 06:13 PM
Feb 2018

people probably have a hard time remembering everything that's gone on. We need paper ballots.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
7. More info
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 06:13 PM
Feb 2018

21:52 12/3/2017
Esquire: Russians may have hacked vote totals
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55603/russia-hack-voting-totals/


Hacker study: Russia could get into U.S. voting machines
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/09/russia-voting-machines-hacking-243603?lo=ap_a1


17:56 10/5/2017
Michigan and Wisconsin's 2016 Presidential elections had Russian interference (hacks).
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029677020 VIDEO


U.S. Senator Jeff Merkley said "according to committee testimony Michigan and Wisconsin had Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections...... and it's likely they had help from U.S. citizens"


State Voter Registration Systems were being Hacked until late December. Months after the Election. Why?
Thread

- The only reason I can see for these events after the election was not to retrieve information but to inject it.
- What if Russia had taken all the Voter Data and started copying valid voters from one state into other states databases?
- Especially timely for Trumps new Commission. Makes more purgeable people that never really registered in two states.
- What if they were injecting Data of Illegal Aliens into the system to support Trumps agenda of Fraudulent Voting.
- Also would support his Immigration plans. I don't know exactly what they were putting back into the systems. I do know it will be a problem.


Russian govt. cyber actors unsuccessfully attempted to hack 2016 election results in WI
NBC Politics ? @NBCPolitics
Sep 22, 2017



13:54 9/21/2017
The FBI says as many as 39 states had their voting systems scanned or targeted by Russia.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029617132
link http://amp.usatoday.com/story/666020001/ via

12. So I'm supposed to believe
That Russia "scanned or targeted" voting systems in 39 states, but not one vote was manipulated by Russia in the General Election, and that Trump actually won?
Come on!!! I've got some ocean front property in Arizona that I'd love to sell.
The election was hacked and Heir Trumpenmeister is an illegitimate president.

triron

(22,025 posts)
15. Excellent thorough post.
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 06:27 PM
Feb 2018

100% agree with your thesis.
Exit poll analyses and pre-election predictions (including polling) all are contra-indicative of a Trump electoral college win.

triron

(22,025 posts)
38. A few minutes ago on the 11th hour some lame brain pundit
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:41 AM
Feb 2018

says it was less than 10 states. I wanted to scream at the TV. Why does MSM perpetuate this
bs? Even Williams stated 21 states which the thread stated of course. Why can't they do some goddamn
research before they parrot this bs? Wtf are they paid for? That's why I was disappointed in Rachel tonite.
Why didn't she cover this for at least 10 min? The Porter thing was important but she spent nearly 1/2 her show
on that. grrr!

Takket

(21,640 posts)
11. They wouldnt have done all that work just to look around
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 06:19 PM
Feb 2018

At this point someone is going to have to convince me Russia did NOT manipulate the system rather that the other way around. I see a whole lot of evidence on one side and nothing but blind faith that the election was clean on the other.

Stinky The Clown

(67,825 posts)
16. I remind everyone: the "margin" was an aggregate of 77K votes in 3 states
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 06:27 PM
Feb 2018

NO WAY this FUCK was legitimately elected.

cilla4progress

(24,782 posts)
18. And this, from WAPO, 3 weeks after the election:
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 06:29 PM
Feb 2018

The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/donald-trump-will-be-president-thanks-to-80000-people-in-three-states/?utm_term=.ed9ce46c2c27

renate

(13,776 posts)
28. That makes me feel so frustrated and sad
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 08:03 PM
Feb 2018

It’s been such a crazy, overwhelming year that it’s easy to forget just how razor thin that electoral college win really was.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. What will happen this year when the elections go to the Rs?
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 07:25 PM
Feb 2018

Then will it be time to pick up the pitchforks and take to the streets? We are dealing with a system that is rigged eight ways from Sunday, and nothing will change unless the Rs are kicked out.

dchill

(38,556 posts)
23. I'll bet there will be more coming out.
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 07:30 PM
Feb 2018

There's a trickle down thing going on. By the time Trump is out of office, they'll admit that he never should have been in.

cilla4progress

(24,782 posts)
29. I agree about the trickle...
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 08:11 PM
Feb 2018

but my (conspiracy?) theory goes one step further: I think even national Dems are in on it being only a trickle because they are afraid of what will happen if all is disclosed.

Frankly, just as Obama was right before the election. He was averse to sharing what he was learning without buy in from the the R's (McConnell), which of course he never got. Or so the story goes.

0rganism

(23,974 posts)
24. at this point i would assume the entire national election system is perforated with Russians
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 07:32 PM
Feb 2018

they have one of their assets promoted to the top job in the country, and i have no doubt he's doing what's necessary to enable the Russian intelligence apparatus to further compromise our already-shaky voting infrastructure -- i.e., nothing at all. furthermore, his frequent and direct attacks on the integrity and honor our own intelligence agencies cannot be helping with morale.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
25. That's what a lot of us having
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 07:59 PM
Feb 2018

been thinking and saying.. I'm glad they're finally able to have solid proof.



Mahalo, octoberlib

cilla4progress

(24,782 posts)
30. Also, by his statements today Tillorsen effectively
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 08:12 PM
Feb 2018

INVITED them in: we are vulnerable and there's nothing we can do about it.

Imagine Obama - or any Dem - saying this.

wysi

(1,512 posts)
33. Tillerson's comments...
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 08:50 PM
Feb 2018

... should be interpreted as signaling that the republicans will be trying to invalidate or cancel the 2018 midterms.

edhopper

(33,635 posts)
34. This
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 09:00 PM
Feb 2018

is why I am so sick and tired of the endless babble about why Trump won.

Or why Hillary failed.

HE DIDN'T FUCKING WIN!! THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN!!!

dreamland

(964 posts)
37. Bring back paper ballots
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:09 AM
Feb 2018

If they insist in using machines, at least have people vote with paper ballots too, so that we can verify the accuracy of the voting machines. It doesn't have to be in all counties just randomly where hacking is suspected.

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