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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking :Russians penetrated U.S. voter systems, says top U.S. official
The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election.
In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra, the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn't talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, "We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated."
Jeh Johnson, who was DHS secretary during the Russian intrusions, said, "2016 was a wake-up call and now it's incumbent upon states and the Feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked again."
"We were able to determine that the scanning and probing of voter registration databases was coming from the Russian government."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/russians-penetrated-u-s-voter-systems-says-top-u-s-n845721?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
Eliot Rosewater
(31,125 posts)I believe they flipped votes also.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)It's timely, for sure.
triron
(22,025 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)people probably have a hard time remembering everything that's gone on. We need paper ballots.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)21:52 12/3/2017
Esquire: Russians may have hacked vote totals
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55603/russia-hack-voting-totals/
Hacker study: Russia could get into U.S. voting machines
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/09/russia-voting-machines-hacking-243603?lo=ap_a1
17:56 10/5/2017
Michigan and Wisconsin's 2016 Presidential elections had Russian interference (hacks).
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029677020 VIDEO
U.S. Senator Jeff Merkley said "according to committee testimony Michigan and Wisconsin had Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections...... and it's likely they had help from U.S. citizens"
State Voter Registration Systems were being Hacked until late December. Months after the Election. Why?
Thread
Link to tweet
- The only reason I can see for these events after the election was not to retrieve information but to inject it.
- What if Russia had taken all the Voter Data and started copying valid voters from one state into other states databases?
- Especially timely for Trumps new Commission. Makes more purgeable people that never really registered in two states.
- What if they were injecting Data of Illegal Aliens into the system to support Trumps agenda of Fraudulent Voting.
- Also would support his Immigration plans. I don't know exactly what they were putting back into the systems. I do know it will be a problem.
Russian govt. cyber actors unsuccessfully attempted to hack 2016 election results in WI
NBC Politics ? @NBCPolitics
Sep 22, 2017
Link to tweet
13:54 9/21/2017
The FBI says as many as 39 states had their voting systems scanned or targeted by Russia.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029617132
link http://amp.usatoday.com/story/666020001/ via
Link to tweet
12. So I'm supposed to believe
That Russia "scanned or targeted" voting systems in 39 states, but not one vote was manipulated by Russia in the General Election, and that Trump actually won?
Come on!!! I've got some ocean front property in Arizona that I'd love to sell.
The election was hacked and Heir Trumpenmeister is an illegitimate president.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)triron
(22,025 posts)100% agree with your thesis.
Exit poll analyses and pre-election predictions (including polling) all are contra-indicative of a Trump electoral college win.
triron
(22,025 posts)says it was less than 10 states. I wanted to scream at the TV. Why does MSM perpetuate this
bs? Even Williams stated 21 states which the thread stated of course. Why can't they do some goddamn
research before they parrot this bs? Wtf are they paid for? That's why I was disappointed in Rachel tonite.
Why didn't she cover this for at least 10 min? The Porter thing was important but she spent nearly 1/2 her show
on that. grrr!
malaise
(269,211 posts)Did they penetrate or were they let in?
That is the ultimate question.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)triron
(22,025 posts)More like 30+
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Takket
(21,640 posts)At this point someone is going to have to convince me Russia did NOT manipulate the system rather that the other way around. I see a whole lot of evidence on one side and nothing but blind faith that the election was clean on the other.
Stinky The Clown
(67,825 posts)dchill
(38,556 posts)triron
(22,025 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,825 posts)NO WAY this FUCK was legitimately elected.
Gothmog
(145,635 posts)Cha
(297,774 posts)tweets, too.
cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/donald-trump-will-be-president-thanks-to-80000-people-in-three-states/?utm_term=.ed9ce46c2c27
renate
(13,776 posts)Its been such a crazy, overwhelming year that its easy to forget just how razor thin that electoral college win really was.
triron
(22,025 posts)triron
(22,025 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Then will it be time to pick up the pitchforks and take to the streets? We are dealing with a system that is rigged eight ways from Sunday, and nothing will change unless the Rs are kicked out.
dchill
(38,556 posts)There's a trickle down thing going on. By the time Trump is out of office, they'll admit that he never should have been in.
cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)but my (conspiracy?) theory goes one step further: I think even national Dems are in on it being only a trickle because they are afraid of what will happen if all is disclosed.
Frankly, just as Obama was right before the election. He was averse to sharing what he was learning without buy in from the the R's (McConnell), which of course he never got. Or so the story goes.
triron
(22,025 posts)dchill
(38,556 posts)only a tiny, little bit. Tiny. Very tiny.
Actually, I don't doubt it.
0rganism
(23,974 posts)they have one of their assets promoted to the top job in the country, and i have no doubt he's doing what's necessary to enable the Russian intelligence apparatus to further compromise our already-shaky voting infrastructure -- i.e., nothing at all. furthermore, his frequent and direct attacks on the integrity and honor our own intelligence agencies cannot be helping with morale.
Cha
(297,774 posts)been thinking and saying.. I'm glad they're finally able to have solid proof.
Link to tweet
Mahalo, octoberlib
spanone
(135,895 posts)and already have been
cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)INVITED them in: we are vulnerable and there's nothing we can do about it.
Imagine Obama - or any Dem - saying this.
wysi
(1,512 posts)... should be interpreted as signaling that the republicans will be trying to invalidate or cancel the 2018 midterms.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)edhopper
(33,635 posts)is why I am so sick and tired of the endless babble about why Trump won.
Or why Hillary failed.
HE DIDN'T FUCKING WIN!! THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN!!!
triron
(22,025 posts)dreamland
(964 posts)If they insist in using machines, at least have people vote with paper ballots too, so that we can verify the accuracy of the voting machines. It doesn't have to be in all counties just randomly where hacking is suspected.