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spooky3

(34,484 posts)
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:17 PM Feb 2018

Lawrence O'Donnell is now laying out what is wrong with Rob Porter, Kelly, Hatch, etc.

Thank you, Lawrence. This is just one more example of how women with very credible allegations of abuse aren't believed by Rethugs (and sometimes others).

Why the hell would a co-worker think she or he knows whether someone is capable of domestic violence--and be so confident that the co-worker feels comfortable calling the accuser a liar? It's Republican White Male Privilege gone wild.

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Lawrence O'Donnell is now laying out what is wrong with Rob Porter, Kelly, Hatch, etc. (Original Post) spooky3 Feb 2018 OP
Just heard it. 2naSalit Feb 2018 #1
Now his panel is commenting. Jill Wine Banks is outraged. spooky3 Feb 2018 #2
I've only 2naSalit Feb 2018 #3
She was a Watergate prosecutor and has been on MSNBC spooky3 Feb 2018 #5
I noticed that. 2naSalit Feb 2018 #8
Me too nt spooky3 Feb 2018 #10
And me too :-) iluvtennis Feb 2018 #21
Kelly is trying to walk back GP6971 Feb 2018 #4
He is as big a hateful pig as his boss. spooky3 Feb 2018 #6
Walk back-- njcpa1978 Feb 2018 #14
No kidding... fuck Kelly... good luck with that you POS bigot!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #15
Please everyone,listen to what O'Donnell is saying. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #7
We've been watching GP6971 Feb 2018 #9
Such a timely topic Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #11
I am glad that he nailed Hatch, Mr. Mormon Morality, BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #12
The Intercept story detailed how the Mormon elders who counseled her, quote, unquote, Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #19
Yep, the irony don't harm HIS career. Seriously. iluvtennis Feb 2018 #22
I appreciate the fact he called out the Mormon and Catholic church. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #13
Abso-fuckin-lutely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #16
I didn't catch Lawrence tonight but . . . peggysue2 Feb 2018 #17
Porter is saying he took the black eye picture... dawg day Feb 2018 #20
LIAR...he didn't take shit. GAH iluvtennis Feb 2018 #23
The second wife got a protective order dawg day Feb 2018 #18
Thus a serial abuser. Unresolved anger issues at the top of US power, setting & enforcing policy. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #24

2naSalit

(86,824 posts)
3. I've only
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:26 PM
Feb 2018

had a teevee for about a week, in a motel, and am sort of catching up. I used to watch these shows online. This week is the first I've sen/heard of her but I'm glad people like her are coming forward and voicing their views about this. We need all the Constitutional scholars we have coming out and speaking up about what is true about the law and what's not.

spooky3

(34,484 posts)
5. She was a Watergate prosecutor and has been on MSNBC
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:29 PM
Feb 2018

a lot. She’s very good at spelling things out clearly.

2naSalit

(86,824 posts)
8. I noticed that.
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:37 PM
Feb 2018

credentialed individuals are needed to educate the masses, at this point there's not enough institutional knowledge in use. I like that she, Malcolm Nance and others are tellin' it.

njcpa1978

(114 posts)
14. Walk back--
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:47 AM
Feb 2018

When are the Repubs going to publish the 'Revisionist History of the United States'? It will be a best seller in the Fox & Friends book club.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Please everyone,listen to what O'Donnell is saying.
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:34 PM
Feb 2018

lived in and around that Culture and saw so many wonderful Women totally destroyed by a Religion. Used to see them come into work with Sun Glasses and tons of Make-up and wearing long sleeve shirts on the hottest days of summer,in order to cover bruises.


GP6971

(31,224 posts)
9. We've been watching
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:38 PM
Feb 2018

it. I'm glad he's concentrating on it so much...it needs much more publicity and exposure.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Such a timely topic
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:40 PM
Feb 2018

and O'Donnell knows how to tell it. My guess is,O'Donnell knows Porter from his years as Lead Senate Staffer.

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
12. I am glad that he nailed Hatch, Mr. Mormon Morality,
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:47 PM
Feb 2018

for supporting an abuser as much as he is nailing Kelly. Hypocritical, religious men are so immoral in many, many cases.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
19. The Intercept story detailed how the Mormon elders who counseled her, quote, unquote,
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:30 AM
Feb 2018

warned her to keep her mouth shut, so as not to harm HIS career!

peggysue2

(10,843 posts)
17. I didn't catch Lawrence tonight but . . .
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:14 AM
Feb 2018

it seems clear that Kelly and Hatch are more concerned about how these allegations will effect Porter's professional career than the abusive acts themselves. A picture's worth a 1000 words as they say. Pretty hard to come up with a reasonable excuse when you look at the shiner Porter's wife suffered.

But this is an old story. A man's life, career, reputation is deemed far more important than a woman's complaint or bruised body. Then there's always the redirection--I lost my temper, she provoked me, I regret the incident; it will never happen again etc., etc., etc.

No. First time is the last time. And past abuses are still abuses. Maybe when Kelly and Hatch were young men, the career/reputation precedence held sway, the black eye excused, swept under the rug.

That was then. This is now. No more.

Wonder how Kelly or Hatch would feel if Porter had done this to their daughter or wife? Different attitude, perhaps?? Probably.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
20. Porter is saying he took the black eye picture...
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:30 AM
Feb 2018

but he's too insulted by everyone believing his first wife that he won't explain why he took pictures of his wife's black eye.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
18. The second wife got a protective order
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:28 AM
Feb 2018

John Kelly probably don't think "sacred" women take out protective orders. They're supposed to be like saintly martyrs, I guess.

What is it with these rightwingers and calling things "sacred"? (Trump called investigations "sacred"-- what?)

Women aren't sacred. They are human. That's all that's necessary.

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