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Awesome ALS patient, denied ventilator and life-saving meds, confronts his insurance provider (Original Post) Tanuki Feb 2018 OP
There's a #MAGA hashtag on the whiteboard in the room where he's meeting with the PR rep. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #1
Of course there is, they want to KILL Americans, trump and the GOP want to KILL Americans Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #4
That stood out to me as well Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #27
I noticed that immediately. How ironic. smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #29
WTF is with the MAGA hashtag on the whiteboard in that room? MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #2
a. he is a hero b. if you vote GOP you are voting to kill not just this man Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #3
Healthnet is terrible, they are in it for the money. procon Feb 2018 #5
They're ALL in it for the money. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #26
So tragic RandomAccess Feb 2018 #6
Medical insurance companies are the corporate form of the devil. LuckyCharms Feb 2018 #7
My bet is they were going to try to use the nurse to cstanleytech Feb 2018 #18
Powerful cp Feb 2018 #8
Is this the gentleman who confronted Flake on the airplane BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #9
I think it is. cab67 Feb 2018 #14
Yes, and he was also arrested in the capital while protesting the tax bill. Tanuki Feb 2018 #17
Oh yeah, he has a beard there. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #19
Let's have our greediest people make decisions for our most vulnerable askyagerz Feb 2018 #10
KnR Hekate Feb 2018 #11
Outrageous denial with all that Ady has been through and appalachiablue Feb 2018 #12
Health Net is the new provider for Tricare for military and veterans spedtr90 Feb 2018 #13
Healthnet is awful marlakay Feb 2018 #16
Looks like they have not changed from years ago when I had them. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #21
Shameful iluvtennis Feb 2018 #15
How that insurance guy could sit across the table from Mr. Barkin and lie to him rurallib Feb 2018 #20
I know, that just made me furious! smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #30
He looks thinner in the picture. Ilsa Feb 2018 #22
You aren't "getting it" sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #24
I've taken care of ALS patients, including one Ilsa Feb 2018 #28
They don't even remember what normal looked like sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #31
No problem. Ages ago, I've had my battles getting coverage for Ilsa Feb 2018 #32
medical industrial complex. for profit. private based. good luck. pansypoo53219 Feb 2018 #23
i guess i wasn't mad enough this afternoon, so I looked up compensation for AmandaRuth Feb 2018 #25

Eliot Rosewater

(31,125 posts)
4. Of course there is, they want to KILL Americans, trump and the GOP want to KILL Americans
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:57 PM
Feb 2018

makes sense it would be there.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. I noticed that immediately. How ironic.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:46 PM
Feb 2018

That poor man. My heart breaks for him. I hope he gets the healthcare that he needs so desperately and is entitled to. The callousness of these insurance execs just makes me absolutely sick. They care about nobody and nothing but the bottom line and their own bank accounts. I wish them all a long, painful, drawn out death that depletes all their resources before they finally succumb to a horrible illness.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,125 posts)
3. a. he is a hero b. if you vote GOP you are voting to kill not just this man
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:56 PM
Feb 2018

but millions like him.

Deal with it, assholes.









(the assholes, just to be clear, is EVERY Person who either votes FOR a republican or does NOT vote or votes 3rd party)

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. Healthnet is terrible, they are in it for the money.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:07 PM
Feb 2018

My brother is totally disabled and 100% oxygen dependent. Healthnet repeatedly denied his oxygen concentrator, equipment that he's been using for years, and he had to spend several months fighting not their medical staff, but claims processing clerks. They finally agreed to continue paying for the life saving equipment ordered by his own doc, and he switched to Kaiser. No problems since.

MontanaMama

(23,351 posts)
26. They're ALL in it for the money.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:18 PM
Feb 2018

The only obligation any given insurance company has is to their stockholders. Period.

LuckyCharms

(17,463 posts)
7. Medical insurance companies are the corporate form of the devil.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:00 PM
Feb 2018

They wear people down, and they kill people.

That's not hyperbole...they actually kill people through the denial of care.

And most of them now call themselves "health companies".

I got a call from my company the other day. He said they wanted to assign me to my own personal care nurse from the company to help me improve my health. I told him I had plenty of doctors. He said they would work with my doctor. I asked him what possible non-financial and altruistic incentive the company would have in assigning me one of their nurses. He started stumbling. I told him to fuck off and to never call me again about shit like this.

cstanleytech

(26,334 posts)
18. My bet is they were going to try to use the nurse to
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:37 PM
Feb 2018

try and guilt trip you into not seeing your doctors as much.

cp

(6,670 posts)
8. Powerful
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:45 PM
Feb 2018

Two people I know died of ALS recently. It's a terrible illness. He deserves what he's asked for, it's so little. Thank you, good sir, for your courage.

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
9. Is this the gentleman who confronted Flake on the airplane
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:47 PM
Feb 2018

before the Senate vote recently?

I had Healthnet and they dropped me from Covered CA/ACA since it wouldn't accept subsidies and I had to get Blue Shield which was twice as much.

One reason for low income and stagnant wages is due to insur companies ripping off employers as much as self insured citizens are being ripped off.

Tanuki

(14,924 posts)
17. Yes, and he was also arrested in the capital while protesting the tax bill.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:35 PM
Feb 2018

Ady Barkan is a progressive activist who has been fighting for all of us for years. It is tragic that his life will be so short due to his terrible illness.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a42a7dde4b025f99e187b5b/amp

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
19. Oh yeah, he has a beard there.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:40 PM
Feb 2018

My grandfather died of ALS in his 50s when I was young. It was really thought on my mom and grandmom to see him suffer. They were both in the medical field and knew what to expect yet could do nothing to really help him. It was long, slow torture for him and them too. I am leaving money to ALS research in my trust.

appalachiablue

(41,182 posts)
12. Outrageous denial with all that Ady has been through and
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:03 PM
Feb 2018

the courage and fight he has. This kind of avarice and cruelty in the US health ins. system must change.

spedtr90

(719 posts)
13. Health Net is the new provider for Tricare for military and veterans
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:06 PM
Feb 2018

As of Jan 1 they are the insurance provider for TRICARE West - half the the United States - replacing United HealthCare.

Not encouraging to see this.


marlakay

(11,508 posts)
16. Healthnet is awful
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:34 PM
Feb 2018

I had then for a short time one year long time ago, had a hard time getting anything approved.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. Looks like they have not changed from years ago when I had them.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:04 PM
Feb 2018

One of my jobs used them for employee insurance.. They were pissy about even routine care appts.

rurallib

(62,463 posts)
20. How that insurance guy could sit across the table from Mr. Barkin and lie to him
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:57 PM
Feb 2018

over and over is really hateful.

A totally dead soul. It is amazing.

Ilsa

(61,705 posts)
22. He looks thinner in the picture.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:11 PM
Feb 2018

Any improvements in condition will save money over the long run. Eventually, he will require total nursing care unless the doctors can stave off his decline.

Damn these republicans who treat people this way.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
24. You aren't "getting it"
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 06:10 PM
Feb 2018

They want them to die faster which is where the cost savings comes in.

He will really save them a bundle when he dies..

My daughter had an ALS patient that was also turned down for a new med. He cried, it broke her heart. He told her it was his last hope to hang on a while longer. She found him about 2 weeks later unresponsive and that was it. About a year past diagnosis.

Ilsa

(61,705 posts)
28. I've taken care of ALS patients, including one
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:39 PM
Feb 2018

who was bedridden, unable to vocalize and no use of his arms. He could move his eyes and grunt while we used a letterboardl.

I know they want to kill off anyone not able to increase GDP, ROI, or slave away in their factories. My comments were more short term as far as expenses are concerned, but they won't be able to implement their Final Resolution immediately without drawing more suspicion. The have to still change what is "normal" first.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
31. They don't even remember what normal looked like
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 10:49 PM
Feb 2018

Forgive me if I sounded snarky, it was frustration at not being able to force the insurance companies to do what keeps people alive. They are content with just keeping people quiet till they die.

Ilsa

(61,705 posts)
32. No problem. Ages ago, I've had my battles getting coverage for
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 11:07 PM
Feb 2018

Therapy for children with developmental delays. So the company writes a rider to pay limited amout of therapy. Great! But when the claims are processed, they get kicked back 100% of the time because no one reads the riders.

So, I get on the phone and fight, fight, fight.

AmandaRuth

(3,105 posts)
25. i guess i wasn't mad enough this afternoon, so I looked up compensation for
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:15 PM
Feb 2018

HealthNet execs - now i just got to say it is no wonder they don't pay for care, too much capital going to multi multi multi million dollar salaries for execs. And according to their whiteboard, they support a party that doesn't support the most minimum of minimum wage laws.

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