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MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:10 PM Feb 2018

Paper or Plastic?

Well, that can be a difficult decision. Do you take a smaller plastic bag that can't stand up on its own and spills its contents on your car seat if it's full. Or, do you take a paper bag and pray the handles don't tear off when you pick it up so that the contents spill out on the floor somewhere?

It's a crap shoot. So, I take my own cloth bags to the supermarket, and solve both problems at once, while not contributing to pollution of the environment with plastic or kill trees with paper.

I don't care what bags they offer at the supermarket. I use my own bags and suggest that others do the same.

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Paper or Plastic? (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2018 OP
These are the words Paul Ryan should be saying Weed Man Feb 2018 #1
No baggers at my supermarket. MineralMan Feb 2018 #3
Thats why youre tops in my book MineralMan a kennedy Feb 2018 #47
Plus 1 irisblue Feb 2018 #27
We take our own reusable bags. Have been for a while. If I forget I get paper. redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #2
Be sure to wash them though - they can really hold on to germs. LisaM Feb 2018 #4
Sure. The ones I use are light canvas. MineralMan Feb 2018 #6
I re-use them a couple of times, then I put them in the blue bin. Iggo Feb 2018 #12
I work in an office, so I don't use a backpack (plus on my crowded bus, they take up too much room). LisaM Feb 2018 #13
I have my turnitup Feb 2018 #5
I always take my own bags. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #7
High tech tyvex bags. Throck Feb 2018 #8
I hope that your bags are washable......and washed regularly. WillowTree Feb 2018 #9
I take half a dozen kangaroos with me when I buy groceries Orrex Feb 2018 #10
I do the same - bring my own Lindsay Feb 2018 #11
No bags at all Thyla Feb 2018 #14
First time I've heard the word trolly bluecollar2 Feb 2018 #22
Sorry about that... Thyla Feb 2018 #28
And then it got more interesting Egnever Feb 2018 #37
In Miami bluecollar2 Feb 2018 #40
In the Northeast customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #33
We have re-usable bags - some are decades old csziggy Feb 2018 #15
Paper. And we shop daily so get a lot GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #16
Reusable except for wrapping meat, but I have a question OnlinePoker Feb 2018 #17
My kitchen garbage can is too big for a grocery store bag crazycatlady Feb 2018 #20
The grocery bags customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #34
Re-usable bags in this household, but the real secret to making it all work is..... Brother Buzz Feb 2018 #18
A hint for doing that crazycatlady Feb 2018 #21
I have a big pocket behind the drivers seat where there is a stash paper bags Brother Buzz Feb 2018 #31
+1 dalton99a Feb 2018 #43
I take my own bags crazycatlady Feb 2018 #19
I take the the rather flimsy plastic bags used for produce like lettuce justhanginon Feb 2018 #23
Canvas! marlakay Feb 2018 #24
shop at aldis...alway cardboard boxes available dembotoz Feb 2018 #25
I have so many reusable bags ( my job gave them out as a promo) and so many others that I bought Kirk Lover Feb 2018 #26
Paper. Tracer Feb 2018 #29
I use my own bags Mosby Feb 2018 #30
I ask for paper and plastic, double bagged hueymahl Feb 2018 #32
Don't forget dropping them into daycare playgrounds. Hortensis Feb 2018 #41
Plastic for cleaning the kitty litter pan. Otherwise ancient cloth bags irisblue Feb 2018 #35
Our garbage hauler HeiressofBickworth Feb 2018 #36
No choice in Portland/Multnomah County OxQQme Feb 2018 #38
That concept is spreading. MineralMan Feb 2018 #39
Bump for the subject. Maybe it'll remind someone else Hortensis Feb 2018 #42
Paper. I have uses for them NickB79 Feb 2018 #44
When I end up with paper bags somewhere, they all are saved. MineralMan Feb 2018 #45
For awhile I was using the canvas bags, then realized that I needed the paper bags, at least question everything Feb 2018 #46

LisaM

(27,843 posts)
4. Be sure to wash them though - they can really hold on to germs.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:14 PM
Feb 2018

I do my best, and when I do end up with plastic bags, my rule is to always use it at least twice (more times if possible). I really wish more places would use degradable plastic. In Seattle, I often need to protect things from getting wet, especially when I'm waiting at a bus stop, so some use of plastic is inevitable (we do have a plastic bag rule in the city, but some places seem to still give them out). It's also difficult to haul bags with me everywhere since I use a bus for the most part to get around and going to work carrying a bunch of bags on a bus where I'm increasingly unlikely to get a seat is not the easiest thing in the world. I'm trying, though.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
6. Sure. The ones I use are light canvas.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:16 PM
Feb 2018

I just toss them in the washer and dryer with my other laundry. They're large. They're strong. They have good handles. I can carry two or three in one hand, so I can unlock my house door with the other.

Iggo

(47,574 posts)
12. I re-use them a couple of times, then I put them in the blue bin.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:22 PM
Feb 2018

I too ride the bus, almost every day. I carry half a dozen or so rolled up plastic bags in my backpack at all times. They weigh next to nothing and take up almost no space.

LisaM

(27,843 posts)
13. I work in an office, so I don't use a backpack (plus on my crowded bus, they take up too much room).
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:23 PM
Feb 2018

I try to keep a few bags at work, though.

MontanaMama

(23,351 posts)
7. I always take my own bags.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:17 PM
Feb 2018

They are sturdier, hold more and the square bottom bags stay upright in the back of my car. Once they're unloaded at home, they go right back in the car for next time. Win win!

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
9. I hope that your bags are washable......and washed regularly.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:18 PM
Feb 2018

One big problem with "reusable" grocery bags is that they collect bacteria by the thousands. The market where I shop sells beautiful, sturdy canvas bags (with the store name embroidered on, of course) for $5. I've collected a few of those and throw them all in the washer every couple of weeks so they stay fresh. The only time I have them use plastic bags is for meat or other items which could leak onto other items inside my bag.

PS - Just saw your post #6 above. Good on you, MM!!

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
11. I do the same - bring my own
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:19 PM
Feb 2018

reusable cloth bags whenever possible, wherever it is I'm shopping. (Full disclosure: I don't do all that much shopping at all any more.)

But I sometimes feel the need to apologize to the grocery store cashiers, because the way their stations are set up means cloth bags are an inconvenience to them. (I used to bag my own, but scanners make the "ringing up" of purchases go way too fast for that to work out well.) They're nice about it, of course.

And I actually had somebody at our local dollar store comment that bringing my own bag was smart, because their bags are so flimsy.

Thyla

(791 posts)
14. No bags at all
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:25 PM
Feb 2018

We just take the trolly to the car and load it up directly.
If we are on foot we try to take the cloth or heshen bag but mostly forget so we have a forever growing supply of supermarket brand reusable bags. They are at least useful for lots of things so that is a plus.

Thyla

(791 posts)
28. Sorry about that...
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:18 PM
Feb 2018

I forget sometimes that we all have different words for stuff and us Australians more so.

But for clarification I mean the big carts you get chained up until you put a coin in.
I confuse my wife too with this stuff.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
37. And then it got more interesting
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:40 PM
Feb 2018

You have to put a coin in to get a cart/trolly?

I had no idea. Pretty sure we would lose our collective minds here if they tried that.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
40. In Miami
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:44 PM
Feb 2018

You never have to walk far for a cart. They're right where the last person left them
Don't bother looking for one in the cart return...

Maybe paying for the cart makes sense...get your money back if you put it back where it belongs...

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
33. In the Northeast
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:29 PM
Feb 2018

they used to call them "carriages". Such as on a sign in a supermarket parking lot in front of a metal rack that says, "Please Return Carriages Here". Nobody used that term in everyday speech, however.

I still don't know what they call them here. One thing I do notice is that nearly all the markets have short carts which are way more maneuverable than the full sized ones, and have enough room for a good shopping trip that is not a major stock-up. I can easily get a half rack of beer in and out of the bottom rack of the mini-cart.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
15. We have re-usable bags - some are decades old
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:28 PM
Feb 2018

I've had to re-stitch the seams on some and my husband replaced the bottom layer of plastic on some, but they are still going strong.

We're so good about using the re-usable bags that we have to plan on getting paper bags - our kitchen garbage and recycling cans are sized to fit regular paper bags. Even though we re-use those until they get nasty, we replace them every month or so. There have been times when we didn't have the paper bags to re-use.

We also have some smaller garbage cans - for the bathrooms and my craft area - that are perfect for standard plastic shopping bags, so every so often we go ahead and get one of those instead of carrying in the re-usable bags. Again, we kind of plan on doing that to have the bag to re-use at home.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
16. Paper. And we shop daily so get a lot
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:29 PM
Feb 2018

Because we line our kitchen trash can with them thus not using plastic trash liners

And we use them for all other kinds of things like taking clothes to goodwill, keeping things cold in a cooler(they are pretty good insulation)

The wife will even cut them up and use them to wrap presents for friends or coworkers(label side in).

We like using things multiple times.

OnlinePoker

(5,727 posts)
17. Reusable except for wrapping meat, but I have a question
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:30 PM
Feb 2018

What do all of you use for garbage bags? The kitchen catcher types are a lot thicker than the plastic bags you get at checkout.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
20. My kitchen garbage can is too big for a grocery store bag
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:08 PM
Feb 2018

I use the 13 gallon "kitchen" bags.

All other garbage is emptied into that can.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
34. The grocery bags
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:33 PM
Feb 2018

are usable for a small wastebasket in a bathroom. Most of the waste in a bathroom, if not flushable, is usually light and dry, such as toilet paper roll cores, band-aid wrappers, and cotton balls and swabs. It's really easy to tie the handles together and toss out with the kitchen trash. I get megapacks of drawstring kitchen bags, and stack the full ones out in the garage until the next time I drive near the garbage/recycling facility, which has separate places to dispose of cardboard, glass, and aluminum cans.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)
18. Re-usable bags in this household, but the real secret to making it all work is.....
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:39 PM
Feb 2018

is to get the bags back to the vehicle; shopping doesn't end until the bags are back in the car so you don't get caught short on an unexpected shopping venture.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
21. A hint for doing that
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:11 PM
Feb 2018

Have somewhere in the vehicle that's catch all (I have a milk crate in the trunk) and have more bags than necessary just in case.

I collect Trader Joe's bags so it's never a problem.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)
31. I have a big pocket behind the drivers seat where there is a stash paper bags
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:23 PM
Feb 2018

But the cloth bags are much better because you can safely carry a lot more in them.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
19. I take my own bags
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:06 PM
Feb 2018

And this goes beyond supermarkets. If I forget, I refuse a bag or go back out to my car (I have a crate of bags in the trunk).

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
23. I take the the rather flimsy plastic bags used for produce like lettuce
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:11 PM
Feb 2018

or parsley and keep a "garbage bowl" on my counter for tossing in light garbage from cooking, lettuce leaf cores, onion skins. coffee grounds etc. I found a bowl that fits the bags and when it fills up toss it in the main trash receptacle. Double use of the bags and saves me steps.

marlakay

(11,508 posts)
24. Canvas!
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:13 PM
Feb 2018

I own all different ones that say things like, my bookclub only reads wine labels, i am helping the environment, the plastic stops here, etc.

I gave my grandson who is 20 canvas bag with zombies on it. My daughter who is a manager one that says i am a chick manager and has chicks all over it.

Helps to make it fun. I have one from Powells bookstore in Portland, from Canada...

dembotoz

(16,860 posts)
25. shop at aldis...alway cardboard boxes available
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:16 PM
Feb 2018

fairly strong and sturdy and then i fill with recyclables when they go out to the dumpster

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
26. I have so many reusable bags ( my job gave them out as a promo) and so many others that I bought
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:17 PM
Feb 2018

that it's almost a horde of reusable bags, in all shapes, sizes and materials. I use them every day. Always keep some at work and some in the car. I've given them away to everybody I know.

However, I still have a use for the plastic bags. I save every one of them. See I need them...I have 5 cats so I need these plastic bags to clean the litter pans if you know what I mean.

I never use paper bags at all for any reason anymore.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
29. Paper.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:19 PM
Feb 2018

We recycle and use the bags for paper, plastic, metal and cardboard. Can also recycle the bags themselves.

Mosby

(16,381 posts)
30. I use my own bags
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:19 PM
Feb 2018

The ones I use are synthetic, I have a huge one from HD that is made out of nylon. They take up less space and wash up nicely.

hueymahl

(2,510 posts)
32. I ask for paper and plastic, double bagged
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:25 PM
Feb 2018

and only one or two items per bag. I then burn them in the front yard or wherever I see bees setting up a hive.

- - Donnie J. T., Jr.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
36. Our garbage hauler
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:38 PM
Feb 2018

requires kitty litter to be double bagged in plastic. We have three indoor cats. I always ask for plastic for kitty litter waste.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. Bump for the subject. Maybe it'll remind someone else
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:01 AM
Feb 2018

to grab the cloth bags on the way out.

If we don't forget, and we've gotten a lot better, it's cloth. I fought my husband to set a new punitive policy of buying yet more bags at the register whenever we forgot, and that's helped a lot. The last time he argued, I promised to bury the house in cloth bags if that's what it took until we remembered. And now we usually do.

And when we don't it's plastic, overall better set of environmental tradeoffs, plus we reuse them at home.

NickB79

(19,274 posts)
44. Paper. I have uses for them
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:08 AM
Feb 2018

Good kindling for my high-efficiency woodstove in the winter, and good weed barrier around my garden vegetables in the summer.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
45. When I end up with paper bags somewhere, they all are saved.
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:11 AM
Feb 2018

When I notice that there are too many of them, I bundle them up and take them to a local thrift shop. They use them to bag purchases for customers. They are very happy to get them. Saves them some money.

question everything

(47,544 posts)
46. For awhile I was using the canvas bags, then realized that I needed the paper bags, at least
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:18 AM
Feb 2018

I use them to line the trash container under the sink, then it goes to the trash. I used them to collect newspapers, magazines and envelopes, and I use them to contain all other recycle items: milk cartoons, aluminum cans, plastic bottles. All go into the recycle bin that is collected every other week.

Plastic bags, including the plastic sleeves of the daily newspapers, go into the recycling bins in the grocery stores.

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