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Eliot Rosewater

(31,126 posts)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 06:37 PM Feb 2018

Beware of conversations about how Democrats have to do this or that to win

elections.

It will usually be a way to INSULT democrats by listing allegations of what they are doing now that they have to stop doing.

Should be easy to spot, easy to refute, and if not that easy then just remember how we GOT HERE in the first place!

For instance, I know what one could do, one could VOTE for ANY Democrat in November as if ONE'S life fucking DEPENDED on it!

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Beware of conversations about how Democrats have to do this or that to win (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 OP
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #1
democrats have to get more COUNTED votes than repubs to win. uh oh, beware that lol nt msongs Feb 2018 #2
People forget, Comey memo or no Comey memo, Hillary had a sizable lead Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #5
Precisely Me. Feb 2018 #3
Yes just answer those OPs with VOTE wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #4
I am a Democrat and I sure as hell will vote for one. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #6
+111111111111 Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #9
;) sheshe2 Feb 2018 #13
K&R...vote as if your life depended on it because it does. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #7
Back atcha! Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #8
Mentioned this is another thread peggysue2 Feb 2018 #10
Thank you, common sense always welcomed! Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #11
And this is where he and his co-author said it RandomAccess Feb 2018 #14
There will be more mcar Feb 2018 #12

Eliot Rosewater

(31,126 posts)
5. People forget, Comey memo or no Comey memo, Hillary had a sizable lead
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 06:47 PM
Feb 2018

on election day and her losing those 4 states makes no sense unless votes were flipped ON election day.


REGARDLESS we need people to VOTE as you say

peggysue2

(10,844 posts)
10. Mentioned this is another thread
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:31 PM
Feb 2018

Even a conservative like Benjamin Wittes has said without pause that the electorate needs to vote for the Democratic candidates everywhere in November--local, county, state and Federal, right down to dogcatcher--because the Republican Party has proven itself beyond redemption or repair.

Any and every Democrat is the only way. Voting as if our lives depended on it.

Because they do!

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
14. And this is where he and his co-author said it
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 09:15 PM
Feb 2018

The Atlantic: Boycott the Republican Party https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/boycott-the-gop/550907/

We have both spent our professional careers strenuously avoiding partisanship in our writing and thinking. We have both done work that is, in different ways, ideologically eclectic, and that has—over a long period of time—cast us as not merely nonpartisans but antipartisans. Temperamentally, we agree with the late Christopher Hitchens: Partisanship makes you stupid. We are the kind of voters who political scientists say barely exist—true independents who scour candidates’ records in order to base our votes on individual merit, not party brand.

This, then, is the article we thought we would never write: a frank statement that a certain form of partisanship is now a moral necessity. The Republican Party, as an institution, has become a danger to the rule of law and the integrity of our democracy. The problem is not just Donald Trump; it’s the larger political apparatus that made a conscious decision to enable him. In a two-party system, nonpartisanship works only if both parties are consistent democratic actors. If one of them is not predictably so, the space for nonpartisans evaporates. We’re thus driven to believe that the best hope of defending the country from Trump’s Republican enablers, and of saving the Republican Party from itself, is to do as Toren Beasley did: vote mindlessly and mechanically against Republicans at every opportunity, until the party either rights itself or implodes (very preferably the former).

... We’re proposing something different. We’re suggesting that in today’s situation, people should vote a straight Democratic ticket even if they are not partisan, and despite their policy views. They should vote against Republicans in a spirit that is, if you will, prepartisan and prepolitical. Their attitude should be: The rule of law is a threshold value in American politics, and a party that endangers this value disqualifies itself, period. In other words, under certain peculiar and deeply regrettable circumstances, sophisticated, independent-minded voters need to act as if they were dumb-ass partisans.

For us, this represents a counsel of desperation. So allow us to step back and explain what drove us to what we call oppositional partisanship.
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