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(5,628 posts)It's actually more extreme. President Obama's "falsehoods" weren't lies in the same sense that Mango Mussolini's were. For example, President Obama stated during his advocacy for passage of the ACA that "you can keep your doctor". He said that because that was what he was advocating, and what he wanted to see in the final bill.
Maybe this is a rhetorical point, but I'm making a distinction between a lie and a falsehood.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)the best name yet.
stevepal
(109 posts)There was a provision in the ACA that you could keep the insurance plan that you had (i.e. you can keep your doctor) but obviously if the plan was discontinued by the company, you wouldn't be able to do that. What he said wasn't a lie. He just didn't explain that the government had no control over what plans a company offers.
George II
(67,782 posts)...to their customers.
Even the several thousand policies that had huge increases in premiums was because the insurance companies told their customers (and the government) that they were being covered for things that weren't covered. After the ACA became law, they had to be honest and, oops, they had to ADD the coverage and increase the premiums.
Most of the pitfalls of the ACA came about because the insurance companies were being deceitful.
Nitram
(22,861 posts)never flat out lied.
PatSeg
(47,573 posts)I don't think Obama ever knowingly lied or intended to mislead the public. Trump just says whatever he wants, with little regard to whether it is true or not.
BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)No lengthy explanations are necessary.
HuskyOffset
(890 posts)Trump is kicking your ass, Big League! Making America Lie Again! MALA, motherfuckers!
/s, of course
A real win that reflects his true talent!
siriuslll
(23 posts)Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)Lord knows that Obama's number will read ZERO and Trump's number will still be crazy high
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)tRump is an overgrown child. He is also a compulsive LIAR, and nobody has the guts to tell him to straighten up. It would not do any good, this is a lifelong compulsion he has.
catbyte
(34,438 posts)Glaisne
(517 posts)was his only real competition.
niyad
(113,534 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Trump has given them their response, ahead of time, to anything they don't like: It's fake news.
There are no facts that disfavor Trump, so any facts that seem to go against him are fake news.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)his off the charts yuuge exaggerations.
orangecrush
(19,611 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Name the topic, and he lies about it. He lies about his own abilities. He lies about his intelligence. He lies about his wife and family. He lies about his business acumen. He lies about his charitable giving. He lies about his accomplishments. He lies about his intentions. He lies about his plans. NOT ONE WORD OF TRUTH ISSUES from the hideous man-baby.
He even lies about his fucking golf game. He is a congenital, compulsive LIAR. He lies to himself, hourly.