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Botany

(70,585 posts) Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:07 AM Feb 2018

It is playing out like this:

1) Trump/GOP We never talked to the Russians.

b) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians but not about the elections.

iii) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians and it was about the elections.

4) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians about the elections but they didn't
tamper in the vote.

e) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians about the elections and they did try
to tamper with the vote but it didn't effect the outcome of the elections.

And next up will be
vi) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians about the elections, they did try
to tamper with the vote with Trump/GOP/Cambridge Analytica help, and it effected
the outcome.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210212503 a must read posted by riverside

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Highlight:

It is playing out like this: (Original Post) Botany Feb 2018 OP

and finally greymattermom Feb 2018 #1

And they will, at last be wrong. dchill Feb 2018 #2

Trumpy & his GOP remind me of playground bullies.... FM123 Feb 2018 #3

The GOP won't bite the hand that feeds it. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #4

Newsweek: MIKE PENCE COULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT AND HE WAS HANDPICKED BY PAUL MANAFORT Botany Feb 2018 #5

If Trump was elected with Russian 'help', then so was Pence. keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #6

And the Manafort connection solidifies the case.... lastlib Feb 2018 #8

It may have affected the elections, but we didn't talk to the Russians WhiteTara Feb 2018 #7

In lists use the same set of numeration symbol for each level Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #9

I noticed that as well ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #14

I did that as a joke. Botany Feb 2018 #15

Yes that was a grand OP from rivers! Cha Feb 2018 #10

...and who cares because the real enemy of the people are Democrats according to Drumpt. kairos12 Feb 2018 #11

Yeah, and the myth that nobody cares eleny Feb 2018 #12

Yeah but her emails KatyMan Feb 2018 #13

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)

1. and finally

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:09 AM

Feb 2018

vii) Everything in vi, and you can't do anything about it, so STFU.

dchill

(38,539 posts)

2. And they will, at last be wrong.

Reply to greymattermom (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:11 AM

Feb 2018

We are the world.

FM123

(10,054 posts)

3. Trumpy & his GOP remind me of playground bullies....

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:22 AM

Feb 2018

No, I didn't!
So what if I did!
Too bad - so sad!

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)

4. The GOP won't bite the hand that feeds it.

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:37 AM

Feb 2018

Russia is a PARTNER with the GOP in winning elections. Trumpy is an AGENT of Russia. Trumpy takes ORDERS from Putin. Russia hacked into the voter rolls. The notion that Russia respected the vote tallies and left them alone, untampered, is ridiculous.

Just follow the events. Just follow Trumpy's actions. It's as plain as sunrise. It's no mystery.

The GOP will NEVER legislate Russia out of the US election process. The GOP and Russia are allies. It's a win-win. Henceforth, there will be NO "free and fair" US elections for as long as the GOP holds power. They're addicted to Russian money and they won't stop filling their pockets with rubles. And since they hold power in Congress and the WH, there will be no opposition to Russia's takeover of the US election process.

Botany

(70,585 posts)

5. Newsweek: MIKE PENCE COULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT AND HE WAS HANDPICKED BY PAUL MANAFORT

Reply to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:40 AM

Feb 2018

http://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412

Russia is way deep into the Republican party.

Before Trump formally announced Pence as his vice presidential candidate, it was Manafort who made sure it happened, The New York Times reported last year.

Trump had hesitated to settle on Pence, who was governor of Indiana. Trump was fielding last-ditch appeals from New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and publicly said he had not made a “final, final decision” until advisers like Manafort reminded him of the importance of uniting the GOP around conservative Christian values.

CBS News reported that Pence was Manafort's "first choice" and that Manafort even lied about mechanical problems on Trump's plane to make the soon-to-be GOP nominee stay an extra day in Indiana to get to know Pence. In a phone call, Manafort assured Trump that Pence was the right choice and made a case that won over the real estate tycoon.

Manafort would later downplay his behind-the-scenes choice, telling the Times that Trump never seriously doubted Pence.

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)

6. If Trump was elected with Russian 'help', then so was Pence.

Reply to Botany (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:45 AM

Feb 2018

lastlib

(23,288 posts)

8. And the Manafort connection solidifies the case....

Reply to keithbvadu2 (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:33 PM

Feb 2018

...that Pence should NEVER even be IN the Oval Office, let alone ELECTED to it (or succeded to it). Give him two terms--time served as VP, the remainder in PRISON!

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)

7. It may have affected the elections, but we didn't talk to the Russians

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:45 AM

Feb 2018

and the circle begins again.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)

9. In lists use the same set of numeration symbol for each level

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 02:07 PM

Feb 2018

The list generates cognitive dissonance because it seems that the second post is subsidiary to the first but it actually is at the same level and merely the next one in the list.

1
. a
. b
. . i
. . ii
. . iii
2
. a
3

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)

14. I noticed that as well

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:54 PM

Feb 2018

And put down to a reflection of the mental gymnastics the WH/GOP must go through to convince themselves that they were correct to begin with but had to later alter their statement (not too much, mind you) to make it fit with their current narrative.