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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,212 posts)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 03:32 PM Feb 2018

No, it doesnt take 10 years to get approval to build 'a simple road

There he goes again.

President Donald Trump claimed – erroneously – in his State of the Union address that it takes 10 years to build “a simple road.” That’s a canard in his brazen effort to short-circuit environmental reviews in his infrastructure plan, to be unveiled any day now.

With that initial claim so far from the truth, lawmakers should toss that entire idea from the nearest bridge.

The mythical 10-year figure appears to come from a report called “Two Years Not Ten Years” by the anti-regulatory group Common Good. Despite putting the 10 years claim in his 2015 report’s title, it doesn’t supply any data that actually shows project reviews can take a decade, instead claiming “ample anecdotal evidence” to support his claim. But — spoiler — there is no such evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, as the Congressional Research Service confirmed.

After all, 96 percent of federal highway projects have only minimal or no environmental review before they proceed; of those complex projects requiring the full analysis, the average time for a permit is 4.7 years, according to the White House’s own infrastructure adviser.

Even that’s overblown. The Trump administration’s own data shows that reviews are getting done much more quickly. According to Department of Transportation data, in the 13 years through 2011, it took on average 5.6 years to complete a major highway project review. Since 2012, it has averaged 3.6 years.

Repeated investigations by government watchdogs show that funding, not environmental reviews, is the cause of delay. A witness from the Congressional Research Service told a congressional panel that a study of 40 projects showed that 39 were slowed by a lack of federal funding.

http://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/373245-no-it-doesnt-take-10-years-to-get-approval-to-build-a-simple-road

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No, it doesnt take 10 years to get approval to build 'a simple road (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2018 OP
The pretense for privatizing our infrastructure JDC Feb 2018 #1
How can you tell trump is lying? mercuryblues Feb 2018 #2
Another take on the same issue: MyOwnPeace Feb 2018 #3
Ah yes, the old Repub fallacious logical path, and it works... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #4

JDC

(10,133 posts)
1. The pretense for privatizing our infrastructure
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 03:38 PM
Feb 2018

Get ready for more tolls. Dotard plans to sell it all to the highest bidder. Domestic and foreign alike. R's will cheer as their life long goal to sell the shirts off of America's Back is fulfilled.

MyOwnPeace

(16,938 posts)
3. Another take on the same issue:
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 04:54 PM
Feb 2018

"Isn’t it a disgrace that it can now take ten years just to get a minor permit approved for the building of a simple road.

No. It’s not.

And it’s utterly disingenuous, not to mention a logical fallacy, to compare construction of a private building to the permitting process for public works, especially across the span of a century."



http://www.stonekettle.com/2018/02/damned-lies.html

Wounded Bear

(58,717 posts)
4. Ah yes, the old Repub fallacious logical path, and it works...
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 05:00 PM
Feb 2018

1. Declare the government incompetent

2. Elect incompetent and corrupt politicians

3. Cut staff and budgets in "key" departments

4. Prove gov't doesn't work

5. Privatize something, anything.

6. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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