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MelissaB

(16,420 posts) Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:12 PM Feb 2018

Deep dive into the Fourth Estate, the New York Times, and her favorite reporter, Maggie Haberman

This is a long article about the Fourth Estate, the New York Times, and her favorite reporter, Maggie Haberman, who has access to Trump. Warning: It's a deep dive & long read, but I know DUers read.

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Despite all the articles published – and the incredible shooting star of journalistic fame being lavished on their reporter, The New York Times has failed to disclose to the public that she has family FINANCIAL ties to both Russia and the Trump-Kushner clan.

This reporter is Maggie Haberman.

We’ll break down Haberman’s PR spinning, apologist work in a minute. First, let’s give you some hard information that The NYTimes apparently doesn’t want you to know.

We begin with Maggie’s mom...

Start here: http://www.citjourno.org/maggie1

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Deep dive into the Fourth Estate, the New York Times, and her favorite reporter, Maggie Haberman (Original Post) MelissaB Feb 2018 OP

snip MelissaB Feb 2018 #1

I loathe her for that very reason. nt jrthin Feb 2018 #2

I do not trust her. At all. MelissaB Feb 2018 #5

Its the Money, Honey. MelissaB Feb 2018 #3

Access MelissaB Feb 2018 #7

Wow.. this needs to be exposed.. Cha Feb 2018 #4

Thanks for reading, Cha! Shine and spread the light! MelissaB Feb 2018 #8

She's This Century's Judy Miller Me. Feb 2018 #6

Maggie Haberman has done some incredible reporting on Trump oberliner Feb 2018 #9

She spins extremely well and has access. MelissaB Feb 2018 #11

Why does it say "Habermanjan" ? oberliner Feb 2018 #15

I've seen and heard plenty from her that is completely unflattering to tRUMP. Kirk Lover Feb 2018 #14

Likewise oberliner Feb 2018 #16

Did you read the article? Bradshaw3 Feb 2018 #17

Sure did oberliner Feb 2018 #18

Very interesting read. brer cat Feb 2018 #10

Basically a hack. rockfordfile Feb 2018 #12

Maggie Haberman has not been a wholly ethical journalist. Hortensis Feb 2018 #13

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)

1. snip

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:16 PM

Feb 2018

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Now, do you want the “mic-drop” moment of this entire piece? Of course you do.

It was Sammy “The Bull” Gravano who testified that the Trump Organization’s construction partner, HRH Construction, was owned by the Genovese crime family (the mob started by Lucky Luciano). And, Gravano’s testimony was given at the exact time when Howard Rubenstein was spinning personally for ‘ole Donny “Two Scoops” himself.

Let’s review Maggie’s 2015-2016 coverage again…

“Donald Trump” and the “Mafia”? ZERO search results.

Hillary Clinton scandals? Between the terms “Benghazi” and “email” alone, there are 94 Maggie Haberman hits.

94-0. It’s stunning.

jrthin

(4,837 posts)

2. I loathe her for that very reason. nt

Reply to MelissaB (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:22 PM

Feb 2018

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)

5. I do not trust her. At all.

Reply to jrthin (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:24 PM

Feb 2018

I've watched her twitter feed the last couple of days and went back and read this article THROUGHLY. I had only skimmed it before.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)

3. Its the Money, Honey.

Reply to MelissaB (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:23 PM

Feb 2018

It’s the Money, Honey.

Nancy Haberman, Maggie’s mother, works for the PR firm, Rubenstein, which was founded by Howard Rubenstein – a PR legend, who was once called “the dean of damage control” by Rudy Giuliani.

At Rubenstein, Nancy Haberman is no coffee girl. Her bio lists her as Executive Vice President, and gives her history as "Rubenstein, Home with kids for six years, Harper and Row Publishers, New York Post." Later in her bio, it states, "Has a family of journalists. And the kids she was home with now have kids of their own." Nancy’s area of expertise: "Traditional media, i.e. print, radio, and broadcast. Big emphasis on New York media. General interest stories, medical, breaking news, nonprofits, education… Lends media support to other people’s clients with her relationships established over 30 years."

Although Nancy claims she’s never “met” Donald Trump, she has admitted to doing PR for him (because, it would be impossible to deny).

As for her PR firm’s history with Trump? Well, that’s a deeper dive.

Howard Rubenstein’s work history with the Trump family began early with Fred Trump. Then in 1990, when Donald and Ivana were going through their divorce, Rubenstein took on Donald’s personal PR – doing the dirty work of spinning that nasty mess into something that wouldn’t tarnish Donald’s name and brand irreparably. Because that’s the real nature of PR, isn't it? The Brand.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)

7. Access

Reply to MelissaB (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:28 PM

Feb 2018

But the Rubenstein firms’ ties and access to the Trump administration don’t stop with the Trumps. JARED KUSHNER is another high-profile Rubenstein client. And Jared’s relationship with Howard appears far more intimate.

Jared is reportedly so close to Rubenstein, that it was Howard who Jared turned to when his father, Charles Kushner, was sent to federal prison (convicted in 2005 for illegal campaign donations, witness tampering, and tax evasion). That sounds like a close relationship, doesn’t it?

Howard also played a pivotal role in another Kushner family milestone, when he advised Jared’s purchase of The Observer newspaper in 2006. A few months later, The Observer did a friendly puff piece titled ‘The Rubenstein Family’.

But let’s move on to what this is really all about: The Money.

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It also comes with a certain privilege. Access.

Cha

(297,693 posts)

4. Wow.. this needs to be exposed..

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:24 PM

Feb 2018

Thank you, MB

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)

8. Thanks for reading, Cha! Shine and spread the light!

Reply to Cha (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:29 PM

Feb 2018

Me.

(35,454 posts)

6. She's This Century's Judy Miller

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:27 PM

Feb 2018

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

9. Maggie Haberman has done some incredible reporting on Trump

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:46 PM

Feb 2018

She is one of the best - and the NY Times has been invaluable.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)

11. She spins extremely well and has access.

Reply to oberliner (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:57 PM

Feb 2018

I try to read everything she writes about Trump.

There was an article she wrote last month about Trump ordering Muller to be fired last June.

Did people not wonder why this information was just coming out? You don't think she held the story?

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit

By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and MAGGIE HABERMANJAN. 25, 2018

WASHINGTON — President Trump ordered the firing last June of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel overseeing the Russia investigation, according to four people told of the matter, but ultimately backed down after the White House counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

15. Why does it say "Habermanjan" ?

Reply to MelissaB (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 08:36 PM

Feb 2018

Anyway, I would assert that she has done some very good reporting and exposed a lot about the Trump WH. Generally speaking, I think the NY Times has done important work.

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)

14. I've seen and heard plenty from her that is completely unflattering to tRUMP.

Reply to oberliner (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 07:16 PM

Feb 2018

So I don't know what these folks are talking about. Has she been 'objective' ...yes.... and a few times I didn't like what she said. But overall...nope not very flattering.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

16. Likewise

Reply to Kirk Lover (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 08:37 PM

Feb 2018

She is on MSNBC often and praised by Rachel Maddow and others for her excellent reporting.

Bradshaw3

(7,529 posts)

17. Did you read the article?

Reply to oberliner (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:34 PM

Feb 2018

The gap between her articles on HRC and supposed scandals like Bhengazi and a criminal enterprise like dump's right in her own backyard is compelling. She has done some reporting on dump, in concert with others but nothing like others. Could you provide links to her "great reporting" on dump?

It is also odd that dump uses her to confide in so often.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

18. Sure did

Reply to Bradshaw3 (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:58 PM

Feb 2018

Here's one of my favorite of Maggie's pieces on Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=AD51ED7D3DD8760CE3DB331ADF2DD60A&gwt=pay

brer cat

(24,612 posts)

10. Very interesting read.

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:52 PM

Feb 2018

K&R

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)

12. Basically a hack.

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 07:00 PM

Feb 2018

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

13. Maggie Haberman has not been a wholly ethical journalist.

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 07:01 PM

Feb 2018

She betrayed her profession and her nation during the 2015-2016 elections, and still is. However, she has nevertheless also provided valuable investigative journalism. Do we really know who's attacking her and why?

Semion Mogilevich is a very interesting character, the "boss of bosses," even a credible figure for the conspiracy being advanced.

It's "Citizens Journalists Consortium" and their unsupported conspiracy theories I believe need a lot more investigation. Why aren't other journalists quoting them? Heck, why are they even alive doing the reporting all the planet's great investigative sources are presumably afraid to touch? (They'd have to know if there was something to this.)

Also, Vlad is believed to be the wealthiest man in the world and in control of Russia's military, as well as working side by side with the extremely powerful Russian mafia. Not exactly to be dismissed.

Maybe CitJourno.com are that far out ahead, but proceed with caution.

Interesting, MelissaB.

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