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Historic NY

(37,453 posts) Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:04 AM Feb 2018

The sheriff - of Broward Co.

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The sheriff - of Broward Co. (Original Post) Historic NY Feb 2018 OP

👏👏👏 dewsgirl Feb 2018 #1

Sherrif realized not going to get reelected without pretending wants more gun control. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #2

What is your basis for asserting that this Sheriff or any other doesn't support gun control? brooklynite Feb 2018 #6

Did not see same said Sheriff with Scott I assume? Did not say any other Sheriff....so.... Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #12

Chris Hayes had an extended xxqqqzme Feb 2018 #22

This is a reliably blue county IronLionZion Feb 2018 #8

Translation: Sheriff advocates closing barn door after cow got out. FSogol Feb 2018 #3

Isnt that a U turn for him? GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #4

Well Sheriff is ex Republican. mwooldri Feb 2018 #19

I like what he said, however, Broward Cty is almost solid Dem Motley13 Feb 2018 #5

Everybody has a right to powder loading musket. Beyond that, not so much. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #7

Well said, Sir! B Stieg Feb 2018 #9

Strict construction only has meaning when it applies to wimpy libs. Axe Scalia; it is fluid for Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #20

Earlier Rick Scott (Gov.) was standing next to him and was staring in disbelief. I loved it..n/t monmouth4 Feb 2018 #10

NRA client Sen. Marco Rubio is the culprit djacq Feb 2018 #11

That is what.... Old Crank Feb 2018 #13

Broward is blue -- he isn't going anywhere obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #15

Cigarette smoking went from almost half the population to just under a fifth LanternWaste Feb 2018 #17

Tobacco decline Pantagruel Feb 2018 #18

Then lets jack gun prices up 1000%, or charge $500 a bullet. Canoe52 Feb 2018 #23

Libertarians should be happy to pay the fully burdened costs of their hobby (they won't be) Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #25

Said much more eloquently than I ever could. Canoe52 Feb 2018 #26

Loud cheers! Fcuk the lead heads! ffr Feb 2018 #14

the silence from GOP leaders azureblue Feb 2018 #16

Here Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #21

Florida massacre: Broward Sheriff Scott Israels plea for gun control Historic NY Feb 2018 #24

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)

1. 👏👏👏

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:11 AM

Feb 2018

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

2. Sherrif realized not going to get reelected without pretending wants more gun control.

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:14 AM

Feb 2018

Even insincere demands is a major turn...will this have legs and spread...R's hiding from the outraged young adults and parents...come out of your rat holes and face th nation...and not just Fox Nation...cowards, not this time.

brooklynite

(94,738 posts)

6. What is your basis for asserting that this Sheriff or any other doesn't support gun control?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:49 AM

Feb 2018

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

12. Did not see same said Sheriff with Scott I assume? Did not say any other Sheriff....so....

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:12 AM

Feb 2018

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)

22. Chris Hayes had an extended

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:00 PM

Feb 2018

conversation with Sheriff Scott Israel last night. Sheriff Israel spoke of his friendship with a coach who was killed. His other remarks about gun control were sincere and thoughtful. I was impressed with his depth of his conversation. (Beats my local sheriff)

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)

8. This is a reliably blue county

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:05 AM

Feb 2018

The people there probably support sensible gun laws

FSogol

(45,529 posts)

3. Translation: Sheriff advocates closing barn door after cow got out.

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:15 AM

Feb 2018

Wow, profiles in political courage. Not!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)

4. Isnt that a U turn for him?

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:16 AM

Feb 2018

I could have sworn yesterday he was poo-pooing gun restrictions as a possible cure to these shootings.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)

19. Well Sheriff is ex Republican.

Reply to GulfCoast66 (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:52 PM

Feb 2018

But he is stating the obvious... argue for the status quo right now in Broward County with respect to 2A and gun rights in general... lose the election.

The problem is that the electorate has a very short memory. If this was a shooting in October then it would be fresh on election day. This is February. This will sadly be a distant memory come the midterm elections and we will have been successfully distracted by other Republican (and possibly some Democratic) shiny objects passed our way.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)

5. I like what he said, however, Broward Cty is almost solid Dem

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:45 AM

Feb 2018

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)

7. Everybody has a right to powder loading musket. Beyond that, not so much.

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:54 AM

Feb 2018

The right to bear arms is not unlimited. Lines have been drawn.

Tightening the lines to eliminate AR-15s and their ilk is simply drawing the line more rationally.

People can still hunt and fish and "protect" their families without AR-15s.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)

9. Well said, Sir!

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:08 AM

Feb 2018

You nailed it. Thank you.

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)

20. Strict construction only has meaning when it applies to wimpy libs. Axe Scalia; it is fluid for

Reply to B Stieg (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:56 PM

Feb 2018

the POT only. Party Of Trump

Like to see this guy’s previous stance on GC

monmouth4

(9,710 posts)

10. Earlier Rick Scott (Gov.) was standing next to him and was staring in disbelief. I loved it..n/t

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:08 AM

Feb 2018

djacq

(1,634 posts)

11. NRA client Sen. Marco Rubio is the culprit

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:10 AM

Feb 2018

[link:https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/373922-ny-daily-news-calls-out-gop-senators%3Famp|

Old Crank

(3,629 posts)

13. That is what....

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:23 AM

Feb 2018

He thinks. Gun nuts will run him out of office and elect more gun supporters. Just look at Alabama and Roy Moore....

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)

15. Broward is blue -- he isn't going anywhere

Reply to Old Crank (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:55 AM

Feb 2018

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

17. Cigarette smoking went from almost half the population to just under a fifth

Reply to Old Crank (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:03 PM

Feb 2018

Cigarette smoking went from almost half the population to just under a fifth in 35 years due to effective public campaigns. National drunk driving campaigns resulted in a dramatic reduction as well.

Change is possible if the national will is created or already present.

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)

18. Tobacco decline

Reply to LanternWaste (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:52 PM

Feb 2018

big factor was/is cost, I quit when a pack was $1.50- now $7-10.
Your argument for taxing guns to extinction could be validated.

Canoe52

(2,949 posts)

23. Then lets jack gun prices up 1000%, or charge $500 a bullet.

Reply to Pantagruel (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:20 PM

Feb 2018

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)

25. Libertarians should be happy to pay the fully burdened costs of their hobby (they won't be)

Reply to Canoe52 (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:01 PM

Feb 2018

Gun owners collectively should pay the healthcare, disability care, pain and suffering, policing costs, court costs, extra security costs, lost income, and other costs fully accounted for that result from shootings with any gun anywhere anytime. Then let them try to recover that from the actual perpetrators.