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Kaleva

(36,333 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:35 PM Feb 2018

So the Russian trolls had orders to support Sanders & Trump and slam Hillary, Cruz and Rubio

"The IRA trolls’ primary directive was to “communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton” and “to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump,” the indictment says.

One instruction from the IRA told the trolls to “use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump — we support them),” according to the indictment. One IRA-controlled Facebook page, called “Secured Borders,” even drew flak during an internal IRA review for having “a low number of posts dedicated to criticizing Hillary Clinton.”"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/mueller-indictment-russia-takeaways-353667

I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that at least some of the very vocal anti-Hillary pro-Sanders people who were here during the primaries were Russian backed trolls. Either witting or unwitting.

JPR is probably just a Russian front.

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So the Russian trolls had orders to support Sanders & Trump and slam Hillary, Cruz and Rubio (Original Post) Kaleva Feb 2018 OP
Many posters here were convinced that any Hillary win in the primary... nycbos Feb 2018 #1
And yet I have no reason to believe that they weren't who they said. Igel Feb 2018 #2
If I can't trust someone, it's over. nt babylonsister Feb 2018 #4
judas goats. mopinko Feb 2018 #3
Need to find a way to keep JPR's out & other trolls. LiberalFighter Feb 2018 #5
From the land of what if GusBob Feb 2018 #6
I think its a manifestation of hostility to Sanders and his supporters. David__77 Feb 2018 #8
Imo Trump had orders to make us think Russia was our friend SummerSnow Feb 2018 #7

nycbos

(6,037 posts)
1. Many posters here were convinced that any Hillary win in the primary...
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:39 PM
Feb 2018

... was a sign that everything was rigged against Bernie.


Igel

(35,350 posts)
2. And yet I have no reason to believe that they weren't who they said.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:51 PM
Feb 2018

Because it's more than likely they were.

The claims of poll-rigging date back to just after 2004, and that's not a firm limit. It's just when I first saw them here because that's when I joined.

Once the idea that any defeat must be the result of poll-rigging, the suspicion that your candidate will be defeated by the all-powerful PTB because of poll-rigging becomes a kind of safety valve to temper hope and alleviate that nagging feeling that if you lose it's because you're not actually in the majority. And then if you do lose, well, there's the excuse, just as predicted.

It's the distrust that's the initial problem that can be exploited, and furthering the distrust exploiting the problem is the goal.

LiberalFighter

(51,054 posts)
5. Need to find a way to keep JPR's out & other trolls.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:02 PM
Feb 2018

Would love to have a counter on a profile to track if they might be. If something suggests they might be an interloper I might give them some slack. But if they did it several times I won't remember. A counter of some sort would help a lot.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
6. From the land of what if
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:07 PM
Feb 2018

What if Bernie had won the nomination? What would the Russians have done then?
What would have happened to DU then?

And what would have happened to DU, now, today, with allegations that Russia backed his campaign?

Naval gazing questions I know, but for future elections perhaps important

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