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TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:51 AM Feb 2018

Headline in the Atlanta paper calls shooter "broken child".

I agree with that description, he has had a tough life. HOWEVER, you cannot call him a "child" and also defend that he bought the gun legally. We do not legally sell guns to children do we???

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Headline in the Atlanta paper calls shooter "broken child". (Original Post) TNNurse Feb 2018 OP
If he had been Black it would have said thug redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #1
Exactly..double standard.. HipChick Feb 2018 #10
Young man, yes. Child, nope. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #2
more complicated than that handmade34 Feb 2018 #3
Oh give me a freaking break. At 19 he is an adult. LisaL Feb 2018 #5
His attorneys said that. CurtEastPoint Feb 2018 #4
being a child is not always a chronological thing lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #6
The headline was quoting his defense lawyer. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #7
Do you have a link to the article? Would you please post it?... DonViejo Feb 2018 #8
I have trouble sharing links here. TNNurse Feb 2018 #9
Thank you! DonViejo Feb 2018 #11
Actually, his attorney called him a broken child. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2018 #12

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
3. more complicated than that
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:26 AM
Feb 2018

from what I can assess, he is a broken person for sure... but we sell lots of guns (and other age restricted things) to people that have not matured...

I would hazard a guess that the perpetrator is still emotionally a child and yes unfortunately we sold guns to him...

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
5. Oh give me a freaking break. At 19 he is an adult.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:28 AM
Feb 2018

And when does someone stop being a child nowdays?

lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)
6. being a child is not always a chronological thing
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:39 AM
Feb 2018

Last edited Sat Feb 17, 2018, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)

but yes we do sell this type of gun to 18-year-olds in Florida

edit to fix auto-correct

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. Do you have a link to the article? Would you please post it?...
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:31 AM
Feb 2018

I'd be interested in knowing the young man's history; was he born with fetal alcohol syndrome? Did he have a positive toxic screening at birth?

As the adoptive parent of four adopted sons, all adults now, my husband and I consider two of them to be broken children. One, who came to us when he was three years old will turn 30 in April, has a very serious case of ADHD (Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder) because his birth mother abused cocaine and fentanyl, an opioid (which she got from the birth father when she was out of/couldn't afford to buy cocaine). He and his biological bros were physically and emotionally abused as children. Is he a broken child? Yes.

Our other son, who we raised from infancy, has just been diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa inherited from his birth mother; he's going blind at the age of 26 (he turned 27 yesterday). Not too many years ago he graduated from college with a degree in Political Science, was an AmeriCorps volunteer for two years, returned home, was looking forward to and planning his life. Now? He is horrendously depressed. We're enrolling him in The Carroll Center for the Blind where he'll learn to lead a life with his blindness. Is he a broken child? Yes.

Was the young man who slaughtered the 17 children born with the same or even worse condition(s)?

Finally, were the adoptive parents abusive to this young man as he grew up? Probably not but, what was the impact of their deaths, possibly the third and fourth experiences of being abandoned on his young life?

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
9. I have trouble sharing links here.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 01:18 PM
Feb 2018

go to ajc.com, the headline is "Nikolas Cruz is a broken child.....". There is not great detail and none about his biological parents.

My point was actually that calling him a child AND admitting that he was old enough to legally buy that gun is troubling. Children cannot legally buy guns. So which is he? I understand that childhood experiences change your life ( my father died when I was 10) and stay with you always. It is a complicated problem.

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