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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Scarborough voted to repeal the assault weapons ban
He also voted against gun show background checks.
He received very high ratings and praise from the NRA while he was in Congress.
Chemisse
(30,816 posts)All Gingrich'es people walked in lockstep. Newly elected Republicans were taken to some kind of indoctrination camp, if I recall correctly.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Chemisse
(30,816 posts)That's what I get for relying on my memory.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)We should applaud them changing.
I was once pro-gun and have become anti-gun in the same period of time.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,400 posts)You do get into every Scarborough thread to essentially post the same thing. We get it. But it's also not what we're usually talking about.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Much like Hugh Hewitt (although he is on less frequently, so it's less annoying) I feel the need to speak out against folks on MSNBC who I find repugnant. At least Hewitt does not really get any positive postings on DU. Joe seems to have his fans here. It is especially irritating since he normalized Trump during the election and bashed Hillary relentlessly throughout the campaign (and continues to do so when the opportunity arises).
Blue_Adept
(6,400 posts)Especially since, as you've done in this one, it's unrelated to the actual topic at hand.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)This is an OP.
There are OPs posted here on a wide variety of different topics. And there are a whole bunch of different OPs related to various elements of the discussion around gun violence.
And, yes, if someone posts something positive about Joe Scarborough, I will often respond by sharing my views about him being a vacuous hypocritical jackass.
Glamrock
(11,802 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Joe has continued to vandalize American political discourse in both his political and media careers.
The volume of applause Joe rates should be roughly that of an ant snapping its mandibles together.
Chemisse
(30,816 posts)I'm grateful that he has left the GOP and now rails against Trumpism.
Yes, I know 2 years ago he couldn't stop talking about Hillary's emails, and he gave Trump undeserved publicity and respect.
But this is now, and it makes me feel better about things when I listen to him blast all things Trump on the way to work.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He brings her up and attacks her regularly.
Chemisse
(30,816 posts)It's pretty hard to remain righteously indignant over her "being careless with classified information", when Trump and followers are actually giving top secrets directly to the Russians.
He'll likely go back to his party if it ever clears itself of self-destructive zealots, and I could be cussing him out (again) a year from now, but for now he is publicizing Trump's failings for three solid hours a day. That is a good thing.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But his Trump bashing is good for ratings, so there ya go.
Even so, I guess every little bit helps in the fight against Trump.
dlk
(11,575 posts)Scarborough may have recently changed his tune, however temporarily. He's still no better than his compatriots. His voting record in Congress says it all.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not a fan - at all.
OnDoutside
(19,969 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Especially television personalities.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, who had received an A rating from the National Rifle Association (NRA) while he was in Congress, says that after last weeks massacre of 20 elementary school children that the ideologies of my past career were no longer relevant, and he is now backing a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity clips.
In an unusual commentary segment Monday on Morning Joe, Scarborough connected to the recent tragedy by noting that his own children were the age of those killed and one of his children has Aspergers syndrome.
Politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo, he explained. They must instead be forced to defend our children. Parents can no longer take no for an answer from Washington when the topic turns to protecting our children. The violence we see spreading from shopping malls in Oregon to movie theaters in Colorado to college campuses in Virginia to elementary schools in Connecticut its being spawned by a toxic brew of popular culture, a growing mental health crisis and the proliferation of combat-style weapons.
I am a conservative Republican who received the NRAs highest ratings over four terms in Congress, he continued. I saw this debate over guns as a powerful, symbolic struggle between individual rights and government control
Ive spent the last few days grasping for solutions and struggling for answers, while daring to question my long-held beliefs on these subjects.
Scarborough concluded: I knew that day that the ideologies of my past career were no longer relevant to the future that I want, that I demand for my children. Friday changed everything. It must change everything. We all must begin anew and demand that Washingtons old way of doing business is no longer acceptable. Entertainment moguls dont have an absolute right to glorify murder while spreading mayhem in young minds across America. And our Bill of Rights does not guarantee gun manufacturers the absolute right to sell military-style, high-caliber, semi-automatic combat assault rifles with high-capacity magazines to whoever the hell they want. It is time for Congress to put children before deadly dogmas.
https://www.rawstory.com/2012/12/scarborough-bucks-nra-and-past-ideologies-to-back-gun-ban/
Blue_Adept
(6,400 posts)Thank you for posting this.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Real trustworthy fellow
I get your point, but Ive loathed him for 20 years
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)trust him, yes? So when will he revert to his disgusting, true self, and go back to disparaging those who have ALWAYS fought against these monsters
Ill wait and see how long before he reverts
That said, I understand your point, and agree that its good hes (how ever temporarily) found it expedient to espouse his newly discovered enlightenment
You know about his Gary Condit/Lori klausutis venal hypocrisies, yes.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)I'm interested in knowing about his evolvement on issues; is his fiancee behind some of the evolution or, is he finally being forced to deal with the real world?
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)evolution or not
I prefer apostates like Schmidt, Wilson, Frum, who seem more genuine, despite my former loathing of all three
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)listen to him. I find the way he treats Mika to be especially egregious. I like the three you mentioned, Schmidt, Wilson, and Frum, but also, Jennifer Rubin (the Washington Post columnist). I'm sure the liking is temporary though, once the Dems return to power, they will all start their whining and complaining about how terrible we are. There's something about the current criticism of their party and leaderless leadership I find most interesting/intriguing.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Make no mistake about that. He might not like Trump, but he's still a fan of Republicans like Gingrich. Don't trust him for a moment.
He spent two careers helping the Republican Party become the Party of Trump, and also spent those two careers jeering at the people who pointed out where he was heading.
He should not be allowed to disown it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Couldn't agree more.
Chemisse
(30,816 posts)We don't have to like him, and he could change on a dime tomorrow. But what is really relevant is what he is saying today; his voice has a lot of impact.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Thanks for reminding me what a tool this guy is
Just last week, Pew Research Centers new polling came out showing that 84 percent of Americans believe background checks should be required for private gun sales and sales at gun shows. And lo and behold, just 19 percent of gun owners reported being members of the NRA.
That debunks Joes recent tweets to me about the need for Democratic candidates to be more culturally sensitive to local issues when campaigning. In other words, Democrats lost the election because they were too vocal about their support for gun safety.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's encouraging.