groups in the country. It was due to go public and they hid it in the weeds.

Their “base”

Racist behavior is the root of all social and economic ills of America. These racist/white supremacists have to be rounded up and imprisoned if we are going to move our country forward, these savages must be held accountable for their abhorrent behavior. Gun control laws will do nothing to curb gun violence, until we get really serious about those actually committing the violence. Racist/white supremacists are DANGEROUS people and we must stop playing with them.

...as abhorrent as they may be. If said white supremacists were to harm or plan to somehow harm another human being, that would be something actionable. This is not a political battle but a cultural one; love and tolerance vs. fear and exclusion

I've been to their sites and all I can see is a bunch of DANGEROUS savages
arming themselves, talking about threatening to do harm and actively training to do so. I guess you missed the part about the school shooter being a self-avowed degenerate racist/white supremacist? Round them up. There is enough terrorist-related legislation already on the books.

Degenerate...savage...these are words you use when you want to dehumanize a group of people.

The gunman had threatened to kill people. It was not taken seriously. It doesn’t matter why he wanted to do it. It could have been stopped through a better investigation (or at least minimized through protections against access to military-grade weaponry).

I know that most white supremacists implicitly believe that other races are inferior. That is a demonstrably false belief, but it is not prosecutable.

When they go from that belief to the belief that violence and other illegal acts are justified against other races, then a case can be made for legal action. Hate speech is comparatively unregulated in the US though, so there would have to be a lot of changes before you could do anything without an “imminent threat.” And with all branches of the government in GOP control, change is unlikely to happen. There must be major political progress (which must usually spring from cultural progress first in order to be effective).

So you do not believe that racist/white supremacist are savages and they should not be called such?

Name-calling is not a solution. It only makes the subject feel worse, and feel defensive. Which makes it less likely they’ll listen to any good points you might have.

A white supremacist is just like you. Somewhere along the way, something happened to mess their world up. Maybe they had some people who put some bad programming into them, or something bad happened to them and they took the wrong lessons from it.

There are lots of people working for solutions, for new ways of talking with them that don’t dehumanize or make them feel less than. Christian Picciolini comes to mind; he is a former white supremacist and I really liked the way he spoke with Richard Spencer:

vimeo.com/229466308

(Though I do hate the use of the word “healing”.)

It sounds to me like you are attempting to defend homegrown racist/white supremacist terrorists. You are right name calling is not the solution rounding them up and treating them like the criminals they are, that's the solution. take a look here

https://www.alternet.org/lone-wolf-network-biggest-terror-threat-americans-isis

Something must be done.

If you start monitoring online hate speech, they will just find another way to organize. Look at how the War on Terror has gone: the response of the US to 9/11 has only led to more resistance, more recruitment and more violence.

Fear and hate cannot defeat fear and hate. No matter how many of your fellow human beings you lock up, it will not solve the issue of ignorance in the human mind and hate in the heart. I would like to see hate-speech laws that do a better job of protecting people, but that doesn’t address the root causes in any way that I can see, friend.

OK, I want to round them up to the last man. You want to defend them and make excuses as to why it can't be done. Let's leave it there.

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.

I've been here since 2008, I logged in one day and everything was gone. It looks like I've been lurking for 10 years. lol