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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe Need Armed Teachers and Superior Fire Power In Schools To Prevent Attacks, Says Fox News
This is amazing. The NRA and gun industry can turn the Florida shooting into a gold mine. First, require teachers to undergo paramilitary training. Second, provide guns that are even more powerful than an AR-15.
My goodness, what kind of heat would a teacher need to pack to out-gun an AR-15? Any suggestions? What about grenade launchers?
http://www.newsweek.com/florida-shooting-we-need-armed-teachers-and-superior-fire-power-schools-808557
The issue at the center of the Florida school shooting that left at least 17 people dead is neither gun control nor mental health care, but a lack of superior fire power, according to Fox News judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano, who believes teachers should be armed.
Discussing the deadly attack at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland on Wednesday, Napolitano suggested in a Thursday evening discussion on Varney & Co that there were not enough guns in schools.
"My suggestion is the Israeli model," Napolitano said. "Not all the teachers are armed but all the teachers...the cultures different, I know that. All the teachers have been in the IDF, the Israeli Defense Forces. Every adult except for certain religious groups, spends time there."
Napolitano continued: "In that time period they are trained. And select teachers, quietly, not ostentatiously are armed and quietly trained. You cant just carry a gun. You have to practice with it every week."
neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Do it for the teachers! Lets have street legal AK-47s that will allow our educators to go toe to toe with an AR-15 wielding teenager.
Aristus
(66,462 posts)Rocket-Propelled Grenade.
It's right there in the name.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)and spit tobacco? This is not an old Western movie. Shit, are we supposed to wear them during parent/teacher conferences too? Fux Ruse has to be taken off the air permanently. Their propaganda is dangerous to American citizens' health.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Also, teachers wouldnt be paid anymore as an education militia person.
Maybe once trained, teachers might be required to patrol the border during their summer off.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)People must recognize that, right?
Different Drummer
(7,646 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Why would they not be feeling safer??
And allow in Congress...elimimate security altogether and save tons of money. Armed citizens and lawmakers will provide the security....the good guys with guns!
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Honestly if I was a teacher and heard that I'd be so pissed
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It is literally insane.
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)whatever fantasy they have. We are coming for the guns...wait for it.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Public and private, in the US.
They want to arm everyone?
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)Stupid people.
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...rather than start a classroom arms race.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)to protect faculty, staff and students that might come under siege?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)It's way too early to say that guns are here to stay.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Wonder how many kids would die by the millions of guns being stored away in classrooms...and if properly secured how many would die before anyone could get them out of their lockers and loaded and searching for the gunman?
Ridiculous idea.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Again, ridiculous.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)NOT armed teachers.
What you're advocating is batshit insane.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)We've had assault weapon bans in the past and they proved successful. Arming hundreds of thousands of teachers is an idiotic idea.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)In response to the metoo# movement, some folks might argue that sexism and misogyny are here to stay. Thus, Republicans have argued that women should dress modestly and avoid situations where they are alone with men unless the man is accompanied by his wife. Heck, not too long ago, you had Republicans blowing off rape:
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/26/us/texas-candidate-s-comment-about-rape-causes-a-furor.html
The Republican gubernatorial nominee apologized today for an off-the-cuff remark suggesting that some victims of rape should ''relax and enjoy it.''
The candidate, Clayton Williams, had initially played down the remark as being a joke.
Women's groups and political opponents of Mr. Williams strongly criticized the candidate for the comment.
It ''questions his ability to understand the kinds of problems faced by the people of Texas,'' said Ann Richards, the State Treasurer and a runoff candidate for the Democratic gubernatorial nomination. ''Rape is a crime of violence.''
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)TomCADem
(17,390 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)TomCADem
(17,390 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)TomCADem
(17,390 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)It's the dumbest idea I've ever heard, and Fox Entertainment has provided a countless number of them over the years.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)My wife is a teacher and not only does she not want to have a gun she is scared if she did have a gun she would shoot an innocent on accident.
The idea you are going to turn some of the kindest people in our society into gun toting rambos is so silly it is hard to believe anyone takes it seriously.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Takket
(21,629 posts)Let's mount artillery batteries on the roofs. encircle the grounds with a moat and razor wire. install pillboxes near all the entrances. give all the kids gas mask and add mustard gas tanks tied to the ventilation system so we can flood the hallways with it if a terrorist shows up.
and then the terrorists will just go shoot all the kids at the movie theater instead.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)6 weeks of basic training with an uzi, a few minutes to learn how to properly give change and turn on the popcorn machine.
Takket
(21,629 posts)THEN we will be safe and happy.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)By a lot.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Maybe Bibi can talk some sense into Shitler next month.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Good night, oberliner, already had one OP hidden for daring to question...time for hot milk and honey.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Here comes professor Proudlib with his minigun....
Feeling safe yet?
dsc
(52,166 posts)and frankly many of us would be, then the guns would be worse than useless. My being armed would be worse than useless. I can't see me being able to actually shoot a gun and kill someone. Add in the fact that I am a woefully unathletic man and arming me defines uselessness.
I don't think that makes me either a bad person or a bad teacher. I know what it is like to be on the receiving end of bullying at school and I also know the dark thoughts that can come from that place. Had my family had guns, I might well not be around today. The thing is that it only takes one moment when there is a gun to lose someone. That moment when you think that tomorrow isn't and can't be worth it is the moment when having a gun can be deadly to either the person or the rest of us.
If we don't deal with guns the carnage will never end. Arming teachers won't solve this. It will cause teachers to leave the profession.
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)Teachers can't even get the supplies they need to teach.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...I can see teachers having better access to ammo, then they do to pencils and books. Even some on the left (see above in the thread) are embracing Judge Napolitano's idea of a classroom arms race as a good thing.
J_William_Ryan
(1,757 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)would quit. Good luck with that idea.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)but seriously, what do we think is the answer? I really do not know.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)if the only answer is better armament we end up with everyone running around with bazookas. It is just stupid on it's face.
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)I had one tell me that schools should be a fortress and tried to say there were no shooting in courthouses or police stations. Completely removed from reality, ie who would pay for the extra security at schools? Not Republicans, they barely want public school. Why should kids feel like they are in a war zone, how is that healthy?
I had tried to start a reasonable conversation with certain people I know, what I discovered is conversations are not what these people want, they WANT polarized arguments. Its the weirdest shit. They are not good friends, the ones I was talking to, and all of them are slightly off, if you know what I mean.
jalan48
(13,886 posts)Or maybe that's the point. Raise millions of fearful young people who will look to authority for the answers.
callous taoboy
(4,590 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)raging moderate
(4,309 posts)And all the Congressmen. And all the Senators. And all the judges. And all the Presidents. And all the Billionaires.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)In my hometown the police have a rule. If they go to a school when they were not called in on official business ,they do not bring their gun.
If an officer is in school to teach a class, have a meeting, go to their child's class,etc, they go in unarmed.
There is too much danger of a child trying to grab a weaponl
Now you want teachers armed and carrying at all times. You are asking for disaster.
How many stories are there of police weapons accidentally causing serious injury?
You do not want all teachers armed.
moondust
(20,006 posts)is a good kid with a gun, right?
"Guns For Kids" could turn out to be very, very profitable! Trillionaires!!! Go get 'em, Wayne!!!!!!!!!!