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brush

(53,871 posts)
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:23 PM Feb 2018

trump is so obssessed with denying there was collusion, discrediting the FBI and firing Muellar...

that he's left himself completely vulnerable to another glaring impeachable offense—dereliction of duty in doing absolutely nothing to protect the country from on-going Russian interference in our upcoming election, despite being repeatedly warned about it happening.

Chris Hayes and his guests, Paul Butler and Jill Wine-Banks, just discussed this.

It's taking time but it's becoming clear that trump is toast.

Protecting the country from enemies foreign and domestic is the number one duty of the president.

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trump is so obssessed with denying there was collusion, discrediting the FBI and firing Muellar... (Original Post) brush Feb 2018 OP
I'd like to add another count of dereliction of duty based in the fact that he never does any work. enough Feb 2018 #1
I completely agree. He does nothing but golf, watch FOX and tweet their instructions to him. brush Feb 2018 #4
And consumes massive amounts of junk food... sheshe2 Feb 2018 #6
And try to beat off to Stormy although Im sure he has ED cause of hair meds Pepsidog Feb 2018 #10
He gets a helping hand from Hope and some pills for that. (nm) Elwood P Dowd Feb 2018 #14
And what about refusing to enforce sanctions on Russia? Why isn't he in trouble for that? Luciferous Feb 2018 #2
Hes not allowing Russians to hack our elections because hes distracted. unblock Feb 2018 #3
Glad it's out there.. here's a very interesting article comparing.. Cha Feb 2018 #5
It's a pipe dream for Putin, everything that is tRump and this conservative lead and protected chaos ffr Feb 2018 #7
Absolutely. I grew up in the Cold War. Golden Raisin Feb 2018 #8
I hate to say you're right, roscoeroscoe Feb 2018 #24
Dereliction of duty is an offense for military personel. progressoid Feb 2018 #9
It is part of his Oath of Office to defend the USA. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #11
According to many scholars crimes and misdemeanors is a broad category. Pepsidog Feb 2018 #12
You know more than the two lawyers who just said this on Chris Hayes' show? brush Feb 2018 #13
I would seem they were acting more as commentators, than lawyers. progressoid Feb 2018 #15
I think you're wrong. A guest on Lawrence just said the same thing. You are aware of the oath of... brush Feb 2018 #17
When one becomes POTUS they assume the role of Commander in Chief yankeepants Feb 2018 #22
Because they are derelict in their duties too! Generic Brad Feb 2018 #19
Wait, did he fire Mueller? PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #16
If he did you would probably hear your phone ringing. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #20
Ahhh, you are right. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #26
Actually he's supposed to protect the constitution Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #18
And rightfully described as dereliction of duty. brush Feb 2018 #21
Domestic enemy: easy access to AK-47s by maniacs. fierywoman Feb 2018 #23
tRump is a fucking moron. I bet Putin is shocked how fucking stupid he is. njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #25
Im just gonna leave this here. Saboburns Feb 2018 #27
This has crossed my mind many times. It's nice to see someone mention it. nt Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #28

enough

(13,262 posts)
1. I'd like to add another count of dereliction of duty based in the fact that he never does any work.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:29 PM
Feb 2018

Never pays attention to all the serious issues that a President needs to attend to. I'm not being snarky. I think this is a dead serious problem for our country with this person in the office.

sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
6. And consumes massive amounts of junk food...
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:52 PM
Feb 2018

Takes time to consume 5 Big Macs, a diet coke and supersized fries.

unblock

(52,328 posts)
3. Hes not allowing Russians to hack our elections because hes distracted.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:31 PM
Feb 2018

He’s doing it because it benefits him.

He has no concept of right and wrong, there’s only what works for him and what doesn’t work for him.

Russian hacking our elections works for him, investigations if him and his campaign and his finances and his family and his cronies doesn’t work for him.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
5. Glad it's out there.. here's a very interesting article comparing..
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:39 PM
Feb 2018
Chicago SunTimes: Donald Trump and Benedict Arnold

snip//

"Instead of mobilizing forces to our nation’s aid, the president, like Benedict Arnold at West Point, has allowed our defenses to crumble."

snip//

” We cannot trust the president, not because of what he may or may not have done in secret in the past, but because of what he is clearly doing or, rather, not doing, right now: defending our country against foreign enemies."


https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=201803

Mahalo for this, brush

ffr

(22,671 posts)
7. It's a pipe dream for Putin, everything that is tRump and this conservative lead and protected chaos
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:48 PM
Feb 2018

They are unraveling our nation's moral fabric.

Golden Raisin

(4,613 posts)
8. Absolutely. I grew up in the Cold War.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:58 PM
Feb 2018

Putin has successfully and brilliantly outflanked and attacked us (not a bullet fired) and won that Cold War. Trump is installed in the White House and producing 24/7 chaos. The U.S. Citizenry is so starkly divided as to be in a non-military Civil War. A complicit and corrupt Republican Congress is in control of passing all laws. Supreme Court is hanging by a thread. Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev and all the others are laughing their asses off from that great dacha in the sky.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
9. Dereliction of duty is an offense for military personel.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:06 PM
Feb 2018

And even if it could be applied to trump, the GOP wouldn't do anything about it.

brush

(53,871 posts)
13. You know more than the two lawyers who just said this on Chris Hayes' show?
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:18 PM
Feb 2018

FYI: The president's first duty in his oath of office is to defend the country from enemies foreign and domestic.

He is clearly failing at that as he has not instructed the DOJ and the FBI to take measures to protect the country.

With Muellar's indictments and future indictments and the press' continued coverage on all of the things collapsing around trump and with pressure building, Congress will eventually be forced to move on this, just as what happened during Watergate.

It might have to wait until Nov. when the Dems take over the House (the House, btw, initiates impeachment proceedings), but the die has been cast.

The public's disgust with trump is going stronger every day.

He's going down.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
15. I would seem they were acting more as commentators, than lawyers.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:45 PM
Feb 2018
Dereliction of duty is a specific offense under United States Code Title 10, Section 892, Article 92 and applies to all branches of the US military.


There are a lot of crimes he could be charged with but Dereliction of duty ain't one of them. I think they were just being hyperbolic for impact.

brush

(53,871 posts)
17. I think you're wrong. A guest on Lawrence just said the same thing. You are aware of the oath of...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:02 AM
Feb 2018

office, right?

The oath the president takes is very clear as to the president's duty to defend the nation from enemies foreign and domestic.

Commentators on both Hayes' and Lawrence's shows pointed out trump's inaction towards the on-going Russian interference with the upcoming election is a dereliction of duty.

The military code you cite is one thing but the oath the president takes is very clear as to the president's duty to defend the nation from enemies foreign and domestic.

They were not talking about military code they were talking about trump's failure to do this prescribed duty.

Dereliction of duty is not just a military offense.

yankeepants

(1,979 posts)
22. When one becomes POTUS they assume the role of Commander in Chief
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:10 AM
Feb 2018

They become military. The ultimate in military.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
20. If he did you would probably hear your phone ringing.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:05 AM
Feb 2018

I know I would hear all my neighbors screaming outside and my phones would be ringing off the hook and my gmail would be filled with alerts to get my signs out, put my shoes on and head downtown for to the rally planned to be ready within hours after an announcement. Here is where you can get the news of such an announcement in the future if it happens. I don't think it will now that the Russian indictment came out last week.
https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response-events/search/

The post says he is "obsessed with firing Mueller".

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
18. Actually he's supposed to protect the constitution
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:04 AM
Feb 2018

But ignoring on going attacks by foreign enemies and failing to enact even the most minor defenses like sanctions that have been made law, well it really does sound like traitorous behavior by Trump.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
27. Im just gonna leave this here.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 01:33 AM
Feb 2018

The United States of America was attacked by Russia (and is being attacked by Russia, and will continue to be attacked by Russia) and The President of the United States response is to say the FBI is wasting too much time investigating it.

Ponder that a minute.

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