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Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:00 PM Feb 2018

Abortion: the difference between France and the US

I just now learned about this, and thought it interesting enough to share in its own post. It's a great example of the ever-widening difference between the US and the rest of the civilized world.

French women didn't get the right to an abortion until 1974, two years after many American women. It was unpopular and only legalized after a French feminist named Simone Veil organized and vocalized and fought. She was used to fighting: she was the only member of her family to survive Auschwitz.

But here's the difference between France and the US. While abortion in France is kind of a "done deal," women's reproductive freedoms are under constant assault in the US, and the assault gets worse every passing year.

But Simone Veil? Died this week and is being buried in the Pantheon, resting place of France's heroes and one of the greatest honors the French government can bestow. Marie Curie is there (one of only five women). Victor Hugo, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, Emile Zola. Rousseau and Voltaire are interred across from each other, locked in eternal debate for all eternity (which is kind of awesome).

She'll be buried with full state honors on June 30th. The funeral will be broadcast on live television. Meanwhile, we'll still be putting nurses at women's clinics in bullet-proof vests.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/french-rights-icon-simone-veil-set-rare-pantheon-burial/

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Abortion: the difference between France and the US (Original Post) Nevernose Feb 2018 OP
The cult of the fetus really didn't take off here until about 1980. sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #1
Goddamned Reagan Nevernose Feb 2018 #2
Died this week? Better check that DFW Feb 2018 #3
The announcement was made this week Nevernose Feb 2018 #4

sinkingfeeling

(51,474 posts)
1. The cult of the fetus really didn't take off here until about 1980.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:41 PM
Feb 2018

Churches needed something to get their flocks up in arms and voting GOP.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
2. Goddamned Reagan
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:15 AM
Feb 2018

And the rest of the GOP. They made a deal with the Devil (who, ironically, appears to be an evangelical Christian) and America may never recover from the insanity.

DFW

(54,443 posts)
3. Died this week? Better check that
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:25 AM
Feb 2018

French newspapers were announcing her passing last July 1 (she died June 30th, 2017), and were full of her achievements for close to a week afterward. The decision to give someone a final resting place in the Panthéon isn't made overnight.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
4. The announcement was made this week
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 01:00 AM
Feb 2018

My mistake. Desole !

The cool thing about the Pantheon, to me, is that it’s a place where scientists and writers and philosophers and civil rights icons are all buried, and celebrated, together. That doesn’t feel like something we’d do in America.

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