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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,212 posts) Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:54 AM Feb 2018

As Mueller Hits Stride, Conservatives Urge Trump To Consider Pardons

Conservative advocacy groups have renewed calls for President Donald Trump to pardon those implicated in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, citing allegations of partisan sabotage.

The push comes as the Mueller inquiry notches important victories. A grand jury in Washington, D.C., issued sweeping indictments against 13 Russian nationals for interference operations on Friday. The Los Angeles Times reported just two days later that former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates has agreed to cooperate with the special counsel.

Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a government oversight group, said the president should seriously consider clemency for his associates given the alleged anti-Trump bias of Justice Department investigators. Several lawyers who joined Mueller’s team have donated to Democratic candidates, while FBI agents assessing Russian sabotage efforts regularly traded texts attacking Trump’s candidacy.

“The whole super structure of the Russia investigation is compromised,” Fitton told Politico. “Those caught up in it deserve some protection. Rather than just let the virus run its course, it’d be appropriate for the president to consider pardons for people who are caught up in the prosecution.”

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As Mueller Hits Stride, Conservatives Urge Trump To Consider Pardons (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2018 OP

Surely treason is not pardonable? BSdetect Feb 2018 #1

of course it's pardonable, and it absolutely should be. unblock Feb 2018 #3

one minute after he pardons them. then NY AG hit them with STATE CHARGES i hope bluestarone Feb 2018 #2

I can't stop thinking how they'd explode if it were Hillary and that suggestion was made bitterross Feb 2018 #4

This is Mueller's genius, though. Trump(R) is currently cowering in a corner hoping Squinch Feb 2018 #5

BSdetect

(8,999 posts)

1. Surely treason is not pardonable?

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:56 AM

Feb 2018

unblock

(52,328 posts)

3. of course it's pardonable, and it absolutely should be.

Reply to BSdetect (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:04 AM

Feb 2018

we don't want a government that abuses the power to charge people with crimes -- any crime -- without the final failsafe of a presidential pardon.

the problem here comes in when the president himself is implicated in the criminal charges.

that's where impeachment comes in (and possibly criminal charges against the impeached and removed president), at least in theory.

bluestarone

(17,043 posts)

2. one minute after he pardons them. then NY AG hit them with STATE CHARGES i hope

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:00 AM

Feb 2018

bitterross

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4. I can't stop thinking how they'd explode if it were Hillary and that suggestion was made

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:25 AM

Feb 2018

They would be raising the roof and insisting on impeachment if Hillary was being investigated and the same suggestion was made be left-leaning groups.

Squinch

(51,015 posts)

5. This is Mueller's genius, though. Trump(R) is currently cowering in a corner hoping

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:36 AM

Feb 2018

none of this splatter hits him.

He can no longer claim that "Rusher" hijacking the election is fake news. He has HAD to acknowledge that it is a fact. And he has acknowledged it so completely that he's blaming other people for it. So now he can't back down from that acknowledgment.

So now, all he has left is to hope Mueller gets a lot of other people and it stops short of him. If he pardons those people, he makes it more likely that the finger will point to him, so he knows he can't do that. Basically, in his twisted mind, he needs to let the other people, up to and including his daughter and son-in-law, take the fall so he doesn't have to.

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