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ehrnst

(32,640 posts) Thu Feb 22, 2018, 08:44 PM Feb 2018

Indiana State Teacher's Association Statement on Arming Teachers

ISTA President Teresa Meredith released this statement following remarks from President Trump on arming teachers:

“Arming educators sends a signal that we are giving up and accepting this crisis as the new reality. Instead of arming educators with guns, lawmakers should start by arming our schools with more psychologists and counselors so kids dealing with trauma get care before they become broken. Educators need to be focused on teaching our students. Together – parents, educators, lawmakers, community leaders – need to come up with real solutions that really will save lives.”

https://www.ista-in.org/ista-statement-on-arming-teachers

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Indiana State Teacher's Association Statement on Arming Teachers (Original Post) ehrnst Feb 2018 OP

Like sensible gun controls. PatrickforO Feb 2018 #1

In very conservative Indiana no less. Thanks for posting this. callous taoboy Feb 2018 #2

KR Me. Feb 2018 #3

Sadly, they are buying right into the NRA fantasy that assault-weapon-caused massacres 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #4

I think that they are addressing what they immediately need in schools, rather than guns ehrnst Feb 2018 #5

They are giving the NRA cover. NO ONE disagrees with psychological counseling, 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #6

Are you saying that the ISTA president is protecting the NRA? ehrnst Feb 2018 #9

I'm saying there is nothing revolutionary or even controversial about their statement, 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #10

So if it's not revolutionary, it's "cover for the NRA?" And a "tacit acceptance that no effort ehrnst Feb 2018 #11

That's how I see it since it adheres to the status quo I find untenable. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #14

I guess very little meets your standards, then. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #15

This particular statement didn't impress me for the particular reasons I gave. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #16

Real solutions like banning AK15.. And, Cha Feb 2018 #7

TY KNR Lucinda Feb 2018 #8

Thank goodness this idea is flopping Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2018 #12

My local school district (in a very Republican town in Indiana) Adrahil Feb 2018 #13

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)

1. Like sensible gun controls.

Reply to ehrnst (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 08:46 PM

Feb 2018

And the supports in this paragraph.

callous taoboy

(4,585 posts)

2. In very conservative Indiana no less. Thanks for posting this.

Reply to ehrnst (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 08:51 PM

Feb 2018

Me.

(35,454 posts)

3. KR

Reply to ehrnst (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 08:56 PM

Feb 2018

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,036 posts)

4. Sadly, they are buying right into the NRA fantasy that assault-weapon-caused massacres

Reply to ehrnst (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:02 PM

Feb 2018

can be stopped by psychological counseling, like that will catch everyone. They also need to include banning assault weapons.

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

5. I think that they are addressing what they immediately need in schools, rather than guns

Reply to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:05 PM

Feb 2018

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It is not their job to legislate, it is their job to tell legislators what is and is appropriate on school grounds, because that is what legislators are talking about doing.

They are clarifying and correcting legislators.

Together – parents, educators, lawmakers, community leaders – need to come up with real solutions that really will save lives.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,036 posts)

6. They are giving the NRA cover. NO ONE disagrees with psychological counseling,

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:09 PM

Feb 2018

even those who think arming teachers is a good idea.

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

9. Are you saying that the ISTA president is protecting the NRA?

Reply to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 23, 2018, 08:21 AM

Feb 2018

Seriously?

What part of this makes you think that?

Together – parents, educators, lawmakers, community leaders – need to come up with real solutions that really will save lives.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,036 posts)

10. I'm saying there is nothing revolutionary or even controversial about their statement,

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 23, 2018, 10:15 AM

Feb 2018

And that by putting the onus on counseling (to not commit mass murder), instead of on preventing people (who may need counseling to not commit mass murder) from being able to get instruments of mass murder in the first place, this statement gets the NRA's "guns at any cost" demand off the hook. It's a tacit acceptance that no effort will be made to remove assault weapons from the equation. That's why I think it's unimpressive.