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Fri Feb 23, 2018, 09:38 PM Feb 2018

Some Teachers Already Have Guns

As Mr. Donald Trump calls for teachers to carry guns to protect children, some districts already have gun-toting teachers in schools, though the identity of those carrying weapons is kept a secret.

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At least eight states already allow teachers in some capacity to carry guns on K-12 school grounds, including Kansas, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas and Wyoming, according to the Education Commission of the States, which tracks legislation. So far in 2018, at least six states—Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri, Maryland, and Oklahoma—have introduced legislation that would make it easier to have school personnel carry firearms on school property, according to the commission.

It is unknown how many teachers are carrying guns in schools because there is no official national tally. While some school districts have publicly announced their armed-employee programs, they won’t say who is carrying them and typically won’t divulge the number of armed staff members. The armed programs usually require educators to own their own weapons; the school districts provide training.

Several school districts in Ohio and Texas with armed staff said Thursday they haven’t had any incidents involving guns accidentally going off or being shot unnecessarily, a concern by some who don’t want teachers armed.

Still, accidents have happened. A sixth-grade teacher was injured in 2014 when she discharged her gun by mistake while using the toilet in a faculty rest room in Taylorsville, Utah. She had the concealed gun legally. A spokesman for the Granite School District said state law requires permit holders to keep their guns with them.

“Police determined she had the weapon on her lap and it slipped and she reached to grab it and pulled the trigger,” said a district spokesman. “The front of the toilet blew off and it blew a porcelain fragment in to the back of her leg.”

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Kenneth Trump, a consultant who is president of National School Safety and Security Services, said in states that allow teachers to carry guns, very few districts use the option. “Most school boards, superintendents and teachers say thanks but no thanks,” he said. Mr. Trump, who is no relation to the president, said there could be a host of responsibilities with arming teachers, including weapon inspections, certification and storing guns. Armed teachers also could present confusion during a live shooter incident, he said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/some-teachers-already-have-guns-1519347813

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Some Teachers Already Have Guns (Original Post) question everything Feb 2018 OP
... TreasonousBastard Feb 2018 #1
Probably not. Igel Feb 2018 #2
Or they thought: 'school shooter' keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #3
Armed teacher on the move looking for the shooter. Police come in blazing. See armed person. Just keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #4
If a teacher shoots a gun toting kid before he kills anyone, you can bet McCamy Taylor Feb 2018 #5

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. ...
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 10:25 PM
Feb 2018
“Police determined she had the weapon on her lap and it slipped and she reached to grab it and pulled the trigger,” said a district spokesman. “The front of the toilet blew off and it blew a porcelain fragment in to the back of her leg.”


And scared the living shit out of everyone else in the school.

Igel

(35,337 posts)
2. Probably not.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:16 PM
Feb 2018

Just those in the bathroom with her, if anybody was there, and any adjacent classrooms.

The rest probably thought, "What's that loud sound?"

keithbvadu2

(36,869 posts)
4. Armed teacher on the move looking for the shooter. Police come in blazing. See armed person. Just
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 12:24 AM
Feb 2018

Armed teacher on the move looking for the shooter.

Police come in blazing.

See armed person.

Just what they are looking for.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
5. If a teacher shoots a gun toting kid before he kills anyone, you can bet
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 01:36 AM
Feb 2018

the parents will yell "Murder" and sue the school and insist that the kid was only playing around and was never a threat. They will call it the ultimate form of child abuse. No one will praise the teacher for saving lives. It will be all about the wretched child killer.

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