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packman

(16,296 posts) Fri Feb 23, 2018, 10:45 PM Feb 2018

21 TRILLION $ Missing - Army biggest thief



A whopping $21 trillion was found to be missing from the US federal budget as of this past year. Michigan State University professor Mark Skidmore and a group of graduate students made the discovery after overhearing a government official say that the 2016 report by the Department of Defense’s Office of Inspector General (DoDIG) indicated $6.5 trillion in adjustments had not been adequately documented. Attempting to uncover the reasoning behind these adjustments, Skidmore began to dig deeper. He says,

“I tried to call and talk to the office of the Inspector General to talk to the people who helped generate these reports. I haven’t been successful, and I stopped trying when they disabled the links.”

Despite disabled links and neglect from officials, the verification of over $6T inspired Skidmore and his students to comb through thousands of Office of Inspector General (OIG) reports for 1998-2015. Regarding his findings Skidmore stated,

“This is incomplete, but we have found $21 trillion in adjustments over that period. The biggest chunk is for the Army. We were able to find 13 of the 17 years and we found about $11.5 trillion just for the Army.”

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21 TRILLION $ Missing - Army biggest thief (Original Post) packman Feb 2018 OP
WOW, just WOW!! Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #1
wait wait, don't tell me, the source for this "information" is extragoodshit.com? OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #9
Reuters reported in 2016 the US Army fudged its books for 6.5 trillion in just one year Exotica Feb 2018 #10
that's helpful so this is old. news? OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #11
No, the estimates overall keep going up, when the whole government is looked at Exotica Feb 2018 #13
Ho hum, whatever...trying to get us wound up? Nt lostnfound Feb 2018 #18
I don't understand what your point is Exotica Feb 2018 #19
here is a link from Michigan State University, where Dr. Skidmore teaches at Exotica Feb 2018 #15
Maybe Mueller could work on this later RandomAccess Feb 2018 #2
We the people need to TarponSnook Feb 2018 #6
off the record covert ops worldwide is my guess Takket Feb 2018 #3
Lots of sitting around M-1 tanks and other equipment underpants Feb 2018 #27
enough to cover the debt Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #4
A Trillion Here- a Trillion There-Pretty Soon You are Talking about BIG Money Stallion Feb 2018 #5
The Air Force has has its own space shuttle. sfwriter Feb 2018 #7
But we have to keep pouring money in to the military because they don't have enough... Luciferous Feb 2018 #8
Don't forget the additional millions for Trump's parade.. HipChick Feb 2018 #12
That's the part that makes me so angry...all while children go hungry in the USA. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #29
It's not just the Army - it's the Department of Defense which is made up of the TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #14
That's a crapload of Mendocino Feb 2018 #16
No wonder we can't have ponies. jalan48 Feb 2018 #17
Or Roads... thewhollytoast Feb 2018 #20
Halliburton needed to be saved from asbestos debt. McCamy Taylor Feb 2018 #21
Culture of blowing trillions of dough. democratisphere Feb 2018 #22
From a retired US Navy Chief Warrant Officer, Jim Wright not fooled Feb 2018 #23
Hey Dems, Hassler Feb 2018 #24
👍👍 Duppers Feb 2018 #25
K & R Duppers Feb 2018 #26
The bunker under mercuryblues Feb 2018 #28

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
9. wait wait, don't tell me, the source for this "information" is extragoodshit.com?
Reply to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:27 PM
Feb 2018




http://extragoodshit.phlap.net/index.php/21-trillion-missing-from-us-federal-budget/#more-451026

went there amd found NO LINK CREDIBLE SOURCE

where were we????

BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS

save kids lives
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Exotica

(1,461 posts)
10. Reuters reported in 2016 the US Army fudged its books for 6.5 trillion in just one year
Reply to OhNo-Really (Reply #9)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:45 PM
Feb 2018
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-audit-army/u-s-army-fudged-its-accounts-by-trillions-of-dollars-auditor-finds-idUSKCN10U1IG

That is just the Army, just one year, it is not even the entire Defence department, and certainly not the entire government.
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Exotica

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15. here is a link from Michigan State University, where Dr. Skidmore teaches at
Reply to OhNo-Really (Reply #9)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:59 PM
Feb 2018

MSU SCHOLARS FIND $21 TRILLION IN UNAUTHORIZED GOVERNMENT SPENDING; DEFENSE DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT FIRST-EVER AUDIT

http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2017/msu-scholars-find-21-trillion-in-unauthorized-government-spending-defense-department-to-conduct/

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TarponSnook

(36 posts)
6. We the people need to
Reply to RandomAccess (Reply #2)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 10:58 PM
Feb 2018

Create a new CONSTITUTION which prohibits the supplementstion to the WAR MACHINE! THE BELLICOSE INDUSTRY HAS TAKEN OVER OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOM....I am passed pissed. I want answers and I want Generals and Politicians held accountable of the pillage of our national wealth and taxes! Seems we have been here before with the Boston Tea party revolt.

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underpants

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27. Lots of sitting around M-1 tanks and other equipment
Reply to Takket (Reply #3)
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 10:58 AM
Feb 2018

We pay for exclusivity and the DOD is basically a jobs program and corporate slush fund.

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sfwriter

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7. The Air Force has has its own space shuttle.
Reply to packman (Original post)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:06 PM
Feb 2018

They built and developed their own spaceplane. That right there is a tipoff that some big money is swimming around out there.

https://www.space.com/29401-x-37b-space-plane-4th-mission-photos.html

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TheDebbieDee

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14. It's not just the Army - it's the Department of Defense which is made up of the
Reply to packman (Original post)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:52 PM
Feb 2018

Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard! The Department of Defense has the most lax accounting and auditing standards of any of the federal agencies and therefore it's easy to misappropriate funds through overbilling, cushy contracting jobs given to family members and outright cash kickbacks.

But, the Dept of Defense doesn't get a big budget unless the US is engaged in military operations somewhere in the world. An extended operation in Iraq or Pakistan or where-ever means that the Defense Department will get funding to replace the tanks, jets, bullets, bombs, etc that get used up during combat operations...

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thewhollytoast

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20. Or Roads...
Reply to jalan48 (Reply #17)
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 01:14 AM
Feb 2018

....Bridges, decent schools, healthcare etc. Indirectly our military is killing us. Our congress does nothing because no-one wants to loose Pentagon spending in their states and districts. We are Rome. The only difference is that we don't have any Goths that really feel like storming our gates. Kinda makes you wanna hang your head.

Toast

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democratisphere

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22. Culture of blowing trillions of dough.
Reply to packman (Original post)
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 01:32 AM
Feb 2018

I guess that is what happens when they send pallets of US currency into war zones, then it just disappears!

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not fooled

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23. From a retired US Navy Chief Warrant Officer, Jim Wright
Reply to packman (Original post)
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 01:39 AM
Feb 2018

who writes excellent analyses, at his Stonekettle Station:

As General Smedley Butler once said, war is a racket.

And the military industrial complex and their shills have been playing this game for a very long time.

The key to this con is greed, pride, desperation, and fear. Or in simpler terms: the refuge of the scoundrel, patriotism.

"We will have a military like we've never had before."

The key to a successful con is letting the mark convince himself. Ohhhhh, yes, like we’ve never had before! You bet. We gotta get us some of that, America!


Much more at link--he lays out the Long Con of scaring the populace into going along with the looting:

[link:http://www.stonekettle.com/|]
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mercuryblues

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28. The bunker under
Reply to packman (Original post)
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:10 AM
Feb 2018

the Greenbrier doesn't come cheap. How many other bunkers and escape places are there?

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