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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan anybody tell me "ANYTHING GOOD" that an Ar-15 has ever been used for outside a war zone?
Response to world wide wally (Original post)
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Rollo
(2,559 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)as long as you don't want what's in the can.
struggle4progress
(118,320 posts)lapfog_1
(29,218 posts)and so traumatize the hunter using it that they go Vegan and start taking yoga lessons.
Sorry I couldn't resist.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Sailor65x1
(554 posts)Make tofu irresistible to them!
Kaleva
(36,327 posts)Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)For repressed homosexuality.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)And quite frankly offensive. We have enough problems with gun violence without people linking it to sexual orientation.
Gregory Peccary
(490 posts)can we link Assault Rifles to small penis syndrome?
Martin Eden
(12,874 posts)Happiness is a warm gun
Bang bang, shoot shoot
lkinwi
(1,477 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Other then target shooting, hunting, and defense, can't come up with anything good.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)And yes, I own a AR-15, Among many other weapons. Iam NOT a hunter but a avid target shooter, Wouldn't kill a bird or any animal. Truth be told I detest hunters, Most are way to happy to blast about anything that moves around here. I live in a very remote area in upstate NY, Deer season is like a fucking national holiday around here.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)And also cops, ARs, etc.
Curious if urs is registered!?
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)and needed to be registered with the NYSP.
Only a very small (4%?) were. I sold my "AW"s instead.
Kaleva
(36,327 posts)johnpowdy
(116 posts)Or go into the hands of a mass shooter. I really hope you do the right thing and find a gun buyback program (which police usually have regularly) and turn it in
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)Sailor65x1
(554 posts)No, they don't show that.
And since we think for ourselves, we don't worry too much about what you sky screamers tell us to do.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)Since their are millions of semi-auto assault weapons out there and all types of rifles only kill around 350+- a year, how many of those were with the victims own rifle? I am guessing only a few if any, so the "chances are" your own rifle will either sit in the gun safe or go hunting or target shooting.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)I respect your right to own hunting weapons and to shoot at a range.
But the gun industry is using you. Right now profits from ammo and guns you buy are being used to market more guns, to help the NRA and gun CEOs make more money. And they dont care if those gun sales contribute to kid deaths.
NRA used to be a sportsman org, who promoted gun safety (I benefited from NRA gun safety programs decades ago). But today the NRA is a gun marketing org that seeks only to make money, kid deaths be damned.
You and I and responsible gun owners need to be out actively campaigning to get war weapons off the streets, especially if we are purchasing guns or ammo. Because profits from guns and ammo helps get American kids killed - the nra uses that money to remove any reasonable rules on guns.
mitch96
(13,923 posts)Just to show off how macho they are.. What really scared me was one time up in Dutchess county I was at a rural gas station and the owner asked a hunter if he got anything..
Just a few "rustle" shots.. What is that pray tell?? Something moves in the brush.. Anything in the brush and you shoot.. Could be a deer, or another hunter or a cow... Scary..
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Old Vet
(2,001 posts)My old stomping grounds were across the mid-Hudson bridge, I went to Marlboro High school and graduated New Paltz university.
mitch96
(13,923 posts)My first job out of X-ray school. I lived in Clintondale and would commute across the river. New Paltz was a blast in the late '60s.
The deer thing was when I lived in Millbrook (Tim Leary territory) the "hinterlands..
Small world..
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tymorial
(3,433 posts)justhanginon
(3,290 posts)the NRA, a lot of congresspeople and funeral homes. That's pretty much it.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)Exotica
(1,461 posts)http://adage.com/article/agency-news/humanium-metal-initiative-takes-innovation-grand-prix/309492/
IM Swedish Development Program's Humanium Metal initiative nabbed the Grand Prix for Innovation at the Cannes Lions Festival for Creativity.
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OU65802
(35 posts)But maybe used as a pry bar to get your stuck car is a good use?
Eko
(7,336 posts)"After acquiring the AR-15, Colt promptly redesigned the rifle to facilitate mass production. Based on the final ArmaLite design, most notably, the charging handle was re-located from under the carrying handle, like the earlier AR-10 to the rear of the receiver, like the later M16 rifle.[6] Colt then renamed and rebranded the rifle "Colt ArmaLite AR-15 Model 01" After a far East tour, Colt made its first sale of Colt ArmaLite AR-15 rifles to Malaya on September 30, 1959. Colt manufactured their first batch of 300 Colt ArmaLite AR-15 rifles in December 1959.[37] Colt would go on to market the Colt ArmaLite AR-15 rifle to military services around the world."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15
OU65802
(35 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)maxsolomon
(33,360 posts)Last 2 self-defense incidents in my city:
1. Road-raging 60 year old man gets out of his SUV in a traffic jam on the Interstate to confront a female motorcyclist. Fisticuffs ensue, she pulls a handgun and kills him.
2. Teenager hears men breaking into his house, hides in an upstairs closet, his German Shepherd confronts them, they pump bullets into the dog and flee. Dog survives; community raises 500% of the cost of the surgery.
I have never heard of a MSSA used in self-defense but I'm willing to learn.
johnpowdy
(116 posts)aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)But it is also true that one doesn't know when there might be 3 aggressors like in the original incident described in the link.
An AR15 with a 30 round magazine is standard for civilian police even when they are dealing with a single aggressor. For a good guy with a gun, its insurance in case more firepower is needed.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)You'll never know when an zombie army might attack you either.
maxsolomon
(33,360 posts)Of course, he didn't know that. So, yay?
What a charming dirtball violence story. So much of the context left out - why did the 1st incident even take place? Why are 17 year olds in East Jesus, NC armed and shooting at each other? Women? Drugs?
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)Here are some more. I did use the word occasionally. I don't mean to overstate their use, but the AR15 is America's Rifle at this point. It would be stunning if it wasn't used in self-defense.
https://mic.com/articles/64663/5-people-who-used-an-ar-15-to-defend-themselves-and-it-probably-saved-their-lives#.ZvfP1D2CT
maxsolomon
(33,360 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 26, 2018, 03:18 PM - Edit history (1)
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/man-shot-near-maiden/696075820as I thought, the link you shared is not the whole story.
firstly, the 17 year old who shot the other kid who robbed him? legit DGU, although I reserve judgment about the character of the shooter. if 3 teenagers wanted to strong arm rob him, what for, right? they dont look like geniuses - my guess would be drugs.
however, the AR-15 self-defense is more like public intimidation. it was the brother of the kid who defended himself. he puffed out his chest, brandishing his AR-15 in front of the cameras, to issue threats to any would-be home invader. there he is on camera at the link, acting like a bad ass, threatening to execute thieves with his MSSA.
so why should I believe this other incident (the one your link reports on, which isn't in the video that I see) is a legitimate DGU with an AR-15?
I respect your position on this issue, but that link seriously distorts how that AR-15 was used. which is par for the course for the Team RKBA.
DBoon
(22,395 posts)Kid should have had TWO German Shepherds.
You attack a member of a dog's pack, you should expect to lose some flesh
certainot
(9,090 posts)boycott the crap out of the NRA and turn the GOP into a permanent 10% minority
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)There was a thread on gun CEOs recently- I think smith and Wesson ceo makes $5M ? And he sinks some of that back into the NRA, to sell more guns, to make more money.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)Of all the varied and interesting thins things one could spend their time doing in our amazing world, that some choose this is, how shall I put this...disappointing.
If they were no longer able to shoot at things with those king of guns, I suppose their lives would be diminished beyond all hope, so, we have have mass murders as an Oh Well side effect.
Pathetic.
Calculating
(2,957 posts)Search "man defends home from 3 armed home invaders with AR15"./
maxsolomon
(33,360 posts)Yours is not an accurate synopsis of the story.
The AR-15 was not used in self-defense against the 3 "home invaders". It was a handgun.
The AR-15 was brandished in front of the media by a relative at a later date.
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)without out harming a single living thing.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)They're a'comin.
Brother Buzz
(36,455 posts)Old fart ranchers with bum eyes love the large capacity magazines to increase their odds
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Laugh not, they use rifles to shoot pine cones off trees so they can test them for ripeness without having to climb the tree.
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)Quick edit: Malaya never used the AR-15 in any military capacity that I could find, though they did buy the weapon.