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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 12:39 PM Feb 2018

Yes, Russia Likely Did Swing Votes For Donald Trump

And he didn’t keep talking about the WikiLeaks emails stolen by Russia because he thought voters didn’t care.




“Defendants and their co-conspirators began to encourage U.S. minority groups not to vote in the 2016 U.S. presidential election or to vote for a third-party U.S. presidential candidate,” according to a Feb. 16 grand jury indictment obtained by Mueller.

In fact, the day before Obama visited Jacksonville, Florida, to support Clinton, Russians purchased an ad for the Instagram account of a fake group called Blacktivist. It urged African-Americans to vote for a third-party candidate. “Choose peace and vote for Jill Stein. Trust me, it’s not a wasted vote,” the ad read, according to Mueller’s indictment.

It is impossible to know precisely how many voters nationally stayed home or voted for a third-party candidate because of the Russians’ social media campaign. Nevertheless, the details from the indictment raise new questions about the legitimacy of Trump’s victory.



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russia-election-impact_us_5a9098abe4b03b55731c37df
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Yes, Russia Likely Did Swing Votes For Donald Trump (Original Post) UCmeNdc Feb 2018 OP
Its a red herring. It doesnt affect either anyones criminality nor the legitimacy of the election unblock Feb 2018 #1
I imagine it's only criminal if there's a quid pro quo? Mister Ed Feb 2018 #2
Also not a lawyer, but youre describing only one of the potential charges unblock Feb 2018 #3

unblock

(52,286 posts)
1. Its a red herring. It doesnt affect either anyones criminality nor the legitimacy of the election
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 01:01 PM
Feb 2018

Nixon would have won anyway in 1972 but he was still forced out. Cheating is cheating, felonies are felonies.

Mister Ed

(5,943 posts)
2. I imagine it's only criminal if there's a quid pro quo?
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:59 PM
Feb 2018

From my lay perspective, I don't suppose it would be criminal for the Trump campaign to have benefited from Russian attempts to sway U.S. voters. But if the Trump campaign said to them, "Hey, that's great! If you can do that for us, we'll return the favor and lift those sanctions", then that's a crime.

I'm no legal scholar, but many on DU are. Perhaps they can weigh in and let me know if I have it right.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
3. Also not a lawyer, but youre describing only one of the potential charges
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:17 AM
Feb 2018

Bribery is certainly one possible crime, but solicitation of espionage, receiving stolen goods, conspiracy, accepting foreign campaign contributions, and failing to report campaign contributions are all possible charges.

No doubt there are others I’m not aware of.

Most of these do not require a quid pro quo.

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