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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts) Sat Feb 24, 2018, 08:47 PM Feb 2018

Third-Grader Reaches into Maplewood Officer's Holster, Fires Weapon in School Gym

http://kstp.com/news/no-one-hurt-when-third-grader-reaches-into-school-liaison-officer-holster-fires-gun-harmony-learning-center-maplewood/4773777/?cat=1

February 05, 2018 10:09 PM

Maplewood police said no one was hurt after a third-grader reached into a school liaison officer's holster and fired the gun on Monday.

The incident happened in the school gym at Harmony Learning Center in Maplewood, where the officer was "interacting with (third- and fourth-graders) and building relationships," according to a police department release.

The release says the officer was sitting on a bench, and a third-grader "reached over and placed his finger into the officer's gun holster and pressed the trigger of the officer's gun causing it to discharge though the bottom of the holster."

The round hit the floor, and no one was injured, the press release states.

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Now tell me again, what could possibly go wrong with even more guns in schools?

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Third-Grader Reaches into Maplewood Officer's Holster, Fires Weapon in School Gym (Original Post) Stonepounder Feb 2018 OP

These stories need to go viral. badhair77 Feb 2018 #1

If she had her own gun she wouldn't have to reach for his. grantcart Feb 2018 #2

Why did he have a round in the chamber? exboyfil Feb 2018 #3

All officers carry with a round chambered NickB79 Feb 2018 #7

It was a Glock nt sarisataka Feb 2018 #9

I grew up with bolt action .22's NickB79 Feb 2018 #10

Years ago when those Glocks were all over the place, I knew a bunch of NJ cops who hated them... TreasonousBastard Feb 2018 #11

That is why Glock can now be supplied with a New York trigger. oneshooter Feb 2018 #20

I suppose teachers with carry concealed handguns are going to have to strap them to their Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #15

The Springfield models have a pressure switch on the grip Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #17

"The officer was 'unaware of the child touching his gun until the weapon was fired.'" VOX Feb 2018 #4

How do you know Bob Loblaw Feb 2018 #13

Wonder why he's carrying around a loaded pistol w the safety off? Ligyron Feb 2018 #5

Police always carry loaded guns, and this was a Glock, with a "trigger safety" -- pnwmom Feb 2018 #14

Hey Mr. Professional Armed Security Guard Ohiogal Feb 2018 #6

Hey! No one was hurt, so it's all good. Right? Well... TreasonousBastard Feb 2018 #8

give all the teachers guns and expect 5-10 stories like this EVERY DAY Takket Feb 2018 #12

Trump is, indeed, insane....notice how the insane man never said he asked teachers unions? Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #16

That third grader was obviously paid by the vast left-wing conspiracy to do that on purpose. Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #18

'more guns in school' Idiocracy is here. spanone Feb 2018 #19

What could go wrong? Initech Feb 2018 #21

Glock Timewas Feb 2018 #22

I bet his first name is Barney njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #23

badhair77

(4,218 posts)

1. These stories need to go viral.

Reply to Stonepounder (Original post)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 08:50 PM

Feb 2018

grantcart

(53,061 posts)

2. If she had her own gun she wouldn't have to reach for his.

Reply to Stonepounder (Original post)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 08:51 PM

Feb 2018

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)

3. Why did he have a round in the chamber?

Reply to Stonepounder (Original post)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:01 PM

Feb 2018

Or a weapon with a safety on it?

Teachers are in close contact all the time with the students (in particular music teachers but also coaches, drama teachers). Grade school teachers are down at the level of the students many times.

NickB79

(19,246 posts)

7. All officers carry with a round chambered

Reply to exboyfil (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:15 PM

Feb 2018

No one expects an officer to rack the slide after they draw their firearm when seconds count.

And as for safeties, a lot of handguns no longer use traditional safeties; they have a "trigger safety" that basically just makes the trigger pull longer and a little heavier. Glocks, for example, use this. You can see the lever in the trigger here.

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.tAGXs6jj44bu3Gsr9tAFcQHaE7&pid=1.1

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)

9. It was a Glock nt

Reply to NickB79 (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:16 PM

Feb 2018

NickB79

(19,246 posts)

10. I grew up with bolt action .22's

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:18 PM

Feb 2018

That used good old manual safeties.

I still shudder when I see a Glock "safety".

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)

11. Years ago when those Glocks were all over the place, I knew a bunch of NJ cops who hated them...

Reply to NickB79 (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:19 PM

Feb 2018

They all had stories of accidents and bad shoots. There were times they went off in the stationhouse.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)

20. That is why Glock can now be supplied with a New York trigger.

Reply to TreasonousBastard (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:17 PM

Feb 2018

12lb pull.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

15. I suppose teachers with carry concealed handguns are going to have to strap them to their

Reply to NickB79 (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 10:27 PM

Feb 2018

bodies and under dresses or jackets....fully loaded of course...element of surprise is tough to overcome...what could go wrong....except everything.

Discussing insanity is insane.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)

17. The Springfield models have a pressure switch on the grip

Reply to NickB79 (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 10:30 PM

Feb 2018

And the trigger. All officers' guns should have that at a minimum.

VOX

(22,976 posts)

4. "The officer was 'unaware of the child touching his gun until the weapon was fired.'"

Reply to Stonepounder (Original post)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:01 PM

Feb 2018

And this wasn't some doofus metal-shop teacher with a flattop haircut. This was a (one would reasonably assume) law-enforcement officer who (again, one would reasonably assume) had proper training with firearms and the situational awareness that comes with the responsibility of his job.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)

13. How do you know

Reply to VOX (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:28 PM

Feb 2018

this guy doesn't rock a flattop?

Ligyron

(7,633 posts)

5. Wonder why he's carrying around a loaded pistol w the safety off?

Reply to Stonepounder (Original post)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:10 PM

Feb 2018

That's dangerous, especially at a school...

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)

14. Police always carry loaded guns, and this was a Glock, with a "trigger safety" --

Reply to Ligyron (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

Feb 2018

-- posters explain this above.

Ohiogal

(32,002 posts)

6. Hey Mr. Professional Armed Security Guard

Reply to Stonepounder (Original post)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:14 PM

Feb 2018

You had one job...............

and a third grader outsmarted you!

I am sending this story to everyone I know!

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)

8. Hey! No one was hurt, so it's all good. Right? Well...

Reply to Stonepounder (Original post)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 09:16 PM

Feb 2018

They talk about the holster, but not why a loaded gun with the safety off was in that holster.

Even better, look where it happened:

According to the school's website, Harmony's K-12 program "serves special education students with a three pronged focus of behavioral support, integrated mental health services, and engaging academics utilizing K-12 district ciriculum."