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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:52 AM Feb 2018

Free news gets scarcer as paywalls tighten

WASHINGTON (AFP) -
For those looking for free news online, the search is becoming harder.

Tougher restrictions on online content have boosted digital paid subscriptions at many news organizations, amid a growing trend keeping content behind a "paywall."

Free news has by no means disappeared, but recent moves by media groups and Facebook and Google supporting paid subscriptions is forcing free-riders to scramble.

For some analysts, the trend reflects a normalization of a situation that has existed since the early internet days that enabled consumers to get accustomed to the notion of free online content.

"I think there is a definite trend for people to start paying for at least one news source," said Rebecca Lieb, an analyst who follows digital media for Kaleido Insights.

Lieb said consumers have become more amenable to paying for digital services and that investigative reporting on politics in Washington and elsewhere has made consumers aware of the value of journalism.

http://www.france24.com/en/20180225-free-news-gets-scarcer-paywalls-tighten

Good new sources are -

https://www.apnews.com/

https://www.reuters.com/ and

http://www.france24.com/en/timeline/global/ for stories from Agence France Presse

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Free news gets scarcer as paywalls tighten (Original Post) FarCenter Feb 2018 OP
Tell me about it. NY Times reduced 10 free articles per month to only 5. no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #1
As a test, I just clicked on eleven NYT articles via their Twitter account... demmiblue Feb 2018 #2
Thanks! I'll try Twitter. no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author dewsgirl Feb 2018 #5
Or maybe don't try to steal content and just pay for it instead? oberliner Feb 2018 #11
And unlimited advertising. TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #36
Yes, sort of like shoplifting! nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #31
Wow.. guess they don't want their Cha Feb 2018 #4
Wow, I guess you think they don't need to pay reporters salary's. nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #8
Wow.. I guess you're snarky Cha Feb 2018 #9
Just like your comment. n/t USALiberal Feb 2018 #12
uh huh Cha Feb 2018 #13
Work for free much? nt flamin lib Feb 2018 #25
Yeah, I do volunteer work, flamin lib Cha Feb 2018 #38
Okay, so how do/did you support yourself and your family? flamin lib Feb 2018 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Cattledog Feb 2018 #15
Try copying the links to the articles and open them in a private browser window. NightWatcher Feb 2018 #6
It's only $8 per month for unlimited access oberliner Feb 2018 #10
Thank you for this!!! I 100% agree! nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #14
+1 n/t tammywammy Feb 2018 #27
People want free stuff, Music, Movies, News. Stealing basically........ USALiberal Feb 2018 #7
Jared and Ivanka work for free why shouldn't reporters. Cattledog Feb 2018 #17
:-) Good one!! nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #18
If Jared and Ivanka are examples of the quality of work for free ... mythology Feb 2018 #21
I pay for subscriptions to the Times, the Post, the Daily News and the Guardian... brooklynite Feb 2018 #16
I have an online subscription to the Washington Post and a magazine subscription to phylny Feb 2018 #35
Best site for free news... bluecollar2 Feb 2018 #19
Shockingly things aren't free mythology Feb 2018 #20
Wow, newspapers charging money for you to read them edhopper Feb 2018 #22
I was so MAD when HBO put up their firewall!! nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #24
Ever notice most RW publications don't have paywalls? Jake Stern Feb 2018 #23
A problem with NY Times and others is that they insist on still printing paper FarCenter Feb 2018 #26
No, it's because... TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #37
If I have to pay for 1 site I would most likely avebury Feb 2018 #28
Bezos should just bundle it into Amazon Prime FarCenter Feb 2018 #29
You can connect to it via Amazon tammywammy Feb 2018 #30
With Prime it's free for 6 months and then 3.99/month. FarCenter Feb 2018 #32
+1000. nt ecstatic Feb 2018 #33
Surf incognito Historic NY Feb 2018 #34

demmiblue

(36,855 posts)
2. As a test, I just clicked on eleven NYT articles via their Twitter account...
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:25 AM
Feb 2018

and was able to view every article. I wonder if it is allowed by clicking through their Twitter account, or if it is due to using NoScript/ad blockers.

Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #3)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Or maybe don't try to steal content and just pay for it instead?
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:58 AM
Feb 2018

It's $8 a month for unlimited access.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
36. And unlimited advertising.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:10 PM
Feb 2018

I'm happy to pay even $20/mo, as long as there's no advertising. I used to subscribe to the WaPo, and I still got ads! When I called them on this, they copped a very haughty attitude. "Of course there's advertising! We need that to stay in business!" No, you don't.

Ads cause the page to reformat, which for me is very irritating. They are also quite the distraction when reading intense text that discusses difficult subjects.

Give me a news site that doesn't run ads *for subscribers*, and I'm happy to subscribe. WaPo could have two different subscripton rates: one low rate with ads, and a higher rate without ads. Apparently they are too busy being incensed to reason this idea through...

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
39. Okay, so how do/did you support yourself and your family?
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 07:50 PM
Feb 2018

Your volunteer work, most laudable, isn't a substitute for supporting those who go to work every day to inform, educate or even entertain us.

I also volunteer for what I believe in but don't begrudge paying for having my car repaired or my roof repaired.

How is journalism and information different?

Paraphrasing, a free press isn't free . . .

Response to USALiberal (Reply #8)

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. Try copying the links to the articles and open them in a private browser window.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:46 AM
Feb 2018

If I had enough to buy a digital membership I would, but I don't so this is how I read the article if I can't find it somewhere not behind a pay wall.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. It's only $8 per month for unlimited access
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:58 AM
Feb 2018

That seems pretty reasonable for all the content they provide.

Not sure how they are supposed to stay in business without subscribers.

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
7. People want free stuff, Music, Movies, News. Stealing basically........
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:54 AM
Feb 2018

News sources need money to pay reporters, etc.

We want great news coverage but people whine about paying for it.

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
16. I pay for subscriptions to the Times, the Post, the Daily News and the Guardian...
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 10:20 AM
Feb 2018

What journalism do YOU support?

phylny

(8,380 posts)
35. I have an online subscription to the Washington Post and a magazine subscription to
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:26 PM
Feb 2018

The New Yorker. I decided to put my money where my mouth is and support good reporting.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
20. Shockingly things aren't free
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 10:49 AM
Feb 2018

Reporters, editors, office staff, janitors, photographers all like to eat. Servers and rent aren't free. Online ads don't bring in enough revenue. Something has to give.

edhopper

(33,580 posts)
22. Wow, newspapers charging money for you to read them
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 10:51 AM
Feb 2018

that must be an historical first.
When did they ever do that before?
What next? Advertising in the middle of TV news shows?

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
23. Ever notice most RW publications don't have paywalls?
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 11:07 AM
Feb 2018

WaPo has a paywall, Washington Times doesn't

NYT has a paywall, the NY Post doesn't

The Atlantic has a paywall, Front Page Mag doesn't

Could this be a reason why they are much more effective at getting their message out?

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
26. A problem with NY Times and others is that they insist on still printing paper
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 11:29 AM
Feb 2018

They have huge costs for composition, layout, printing, and distributing their paper product.

News sites that are all or mostly digital are better able to support their reporters, writers, and IT operations on ad revenue alone.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
37. No, it's because...
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:13 PM
Feb 2018

Their shit... er, I mean news, is worthless.

If it's worth nothing, you pay nothing.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
32. With Prime it's free for 6 months and then 3.99/month.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 11:45 AM
Feb 2018

Not sure it's worth it so long as I can get uneditorialized news from AP and Reuters for free.

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