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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:26 AM Feb 2018

Striking detail in Schiff rebuttal:


Steele's sources reported that a "senior Kremlin official" allegedly told Page that "Kremlin possessed compromising info on Clinton" and noted "possibility of it being released" to Trump campaign.

FBI saw this as "consistent" w/other info.






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Striking detail in Schiff rebuttal: (Original Post) kpete Feb 2018 OP
KICK for exposing russian interference Cha Feb 2018 #1
More on memo from emptywheel: kpete Feb 2018 #2
+1 dalton99a Feb 2018 #3
Wow, kpete.. Mahalo for all the info you give us! Cha Feb 2018 #4
Cha kpete Feb 2018 #5
Mahalo, kpete.. Likewise! Cha Feb 2018 #7
Also fear, surprise and a fanatical loyalty to the Pope marylandblue Feb 2018 #10
Thanks for the break down. I fear that this stuff is so in the weeds that the average American Pepsidog Feb 2018 #12
Maddow njcpa1978 Feb 2018 #18
Never thought of it that way. She is brilliant and deserves to be watched Pepsidog Feb 2018 #20
Indeed. iluvtennis Feb 2018 #22
So, your'e a Neilson household? Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2018 #24
I was for a few months in 2014, then I had to move. TexasTowelie Feb 2018 #26
Yep. She builds her case and presents it methodically, Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2018 #25
I know it's probably minor... forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #23
Kick and Rec orangecrush Feb 2018 #6
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #8
Schiff is doing a good job...and he's very calm and cool and analytical Sancho Feb 2018 #9
I keep hearing he lacks charisma but disagree pandr32 Feb 2018 #11
Im with you. And president is afraid of him. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #14
Yes, and Schiff never blurts or reacts irrationally pandr32 Feb 2018 #29
When he appeared on Bill Maher, he came across as very engaging, and a good dry sense of humor. OnDoutside Feb 2018 #30
I find him very pleasant as well pandr32 Feb 2018 #31
K&R... spanone Feb 2018 #13
And kompromat on her never materialized ehrnst Feb 2018 #15
But, but - the EMAILS!!! dhol82 Feb 2018 #16
And a whole lot more BS like that. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #17
So to get this straight madville Feb 2018 #19
Christopher Steele used his MI5 contacts who made these reports in June 2016 FakeNoose Feb 2018 #21
Trump/Nunes weak attempts to muddy the waters will not succeed. oasis Feb 2018 #27
K&R Scurrilous Feb 2018 #28

Cha

(297,240 posts)
1. KICK for exposing russian interference
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:43 AM
Feb 2018

in 2016 election.

Thank you, Christopher Steele and Adam Schiff

kpete

(71,994 posts)
2. More on memo from emptywheel:
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 10:14 AM
Feb 2018
SCHIFF MEMO REVEALS THAT MIFSUD SPECIFICALLY TOLD PAPADOPOULOS RUSSIA WOULD RELEASE HILLARY EMAILS TO HELP TRUMP CAMPAIGN
February 24, 2018/11 Comments/in FISA, Mueller Probe /by emptywheel

“If it’s what you say I love it” – Don Jr., gleefully accepting Russian dirt after George Papadopoulos had been told Russia would release emails to help the campaign

HPSCI just released the Schiff memo responding to the Nunes memo. Mostly, it’s underwhelming.

But there is one piece of important news. The memo provides more details about what George Papadopoulos told Australian Ambassador, Alexander Downer, about the Russian outreach via Joseph Mifsud. That passage reads:

George Papadopoulos revealed [redacted] that individuals linked to Russia, who took interest in Papadopoulos as a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, informed him in late April 2016 that Russia [two lines redacted]. Papadopoulos’s disclosure, moreover, occurred against the backdrop of Russia’s aggressive covert campaign to influence our elections, which the FBI was already monitoring. We would later learn in Papadopoulos’s plea that the information the Russians could assist by anonymously releasing were thousands of Hillary Clinton emails.

While the description of what Papadopoulos said is redacted, the context makes it clear (as does this Adam Schiff tweet) that Papadopoulos didn’t tell Downer specifically what Russia had told him was available, only that they could release it to help Trump.

But that Mifsud told Papadopoulos that the Russians were thinking of releasing it to help Trump is news, important news. It means the discussions of setting up increasingly senior levels of meetings between Russia and the Trump campaign took place against the offer of help in the form of released kompromat.

Which, particularly given the evidence that Papadopoulos shared that information with the campaign, makes the June 9 meeting still more damning.


https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/02/24/schiff-memo-reveals-that-mifsud-specifically-told-papadopoulos-russia-would-release-hillary-emails-to-help-trump-campaign/

Cha

(297,240 posts)
4. Wow, kpete.. Mahalo for all the info you give us!
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 10:22 AM
Feb 2018

"But that Mifsud told Papadopoulos that the Russians were thinking of releasing it to help Trump is news, important news. It means the discussions of setting up increasingly senior levels of meetings between Russia and the Trump campaign took place against the offer of help in the form of released kompromat.:

I never looked up "kompromat" till just now.. Compromising material!

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
12. Thanks for the break down. I fear that this stuff is so in the weeds that the average American
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018

doesn’t have the desire or ability to follow all the twists and turns that make up the Russia investigation. That is not a criticism of the general public but a reality in our country where most people come home exhausted from work and just want to relax and watch mindless reality television. Therefore, it is impirtant that we at DU do our part and read, analyze and communicate what is happening in the most basic terms. Maddow is a good example, she explains in context current events so the average viewer can follow. As a voracious reader of all things Trump and Russia, I find Maddow unwatchable because she moves so slow, spoon feeding information to her audience. BUT she is doing a great service by boiling down what matters and presenting it in a concise and understandable manner. Keep up the good work. DU is a great platform to find information and you and others here do a great service by reading for us and posting your analysis.

njcpa1978

(114 posts)
18. Maddow
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:32 PM
Feb 2018

Yes it does get tedious some times when she goes into the same detail a few times. However keep the TV tuned to her. It helps her ratings and I would hate to see such a brilliant woman lose her top spot. There aren't too many PhDs in Political Science on TV now a days.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
25. Yep. She builds her case and presents it methodically,
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 01:54 AM
Feb 2018

leading to a clear & evidence-based conclusion. If only RW propaganda channels were held to such standards. And its great for me, as I'm always multitasking while watching her show.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
23. I know it's probably minor...
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 12:01 AM
Feb 2018

But doesn't this mean that 45 publicly asking and challenging the Russians to "release the emails" (and implying they would be "rewarded" if they did) and the fact that Russia could and did - isn't that just baldfaced conspiracy with a foreign country to affect the election whether they want to say it was a joke or whatever? It wasn't covert...it was on TV.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
9. Schiff is doing a good job...and he's very calm and cool and analytical
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 11:22 AM
Feb 2018

I wish that we could get someone to run for office with the emotional energy to get the message across.

The HS kids from Parkland are really great, but the Russian scandal is so complex that the "non-political" folks just roll their eyes and latch onto memes. Many are driven by the Fox people and Russian bots, etc.

Honestly, about 1 in 1000 people likely read either memo.

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
11. I keep hearing he lacks charisma but disagree
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:09 PM
Feb 2018

His eyes sparkle, his voice is pleasant, he is well mannered, he listens to what is being said before he responds, and he smiles often and warmly. Most importantly he is intelligent, articulate, measured yet on target, and fearless. He is a gem.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
14. Im with you. And president is afraid of him.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 03:20 PM
Feb 2018

Axios piece recently discussed how DJT is afraid of him because Schiff is not scared to call the bully out for what he is. Bullies are always cowards.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
15. And kompromat on her never materialized
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 05:33 PM
Feb 2018

despite the hopes and plans of those who would benefit from such.

However the invention of such made fools of many.

madville

(7,410 posts)
19. So to get this straight
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:45 PM
Feb 2018

The Steele Dossier, partially funded by the DNC and Clinton Campaign, was in contact with "Senior Kremlin Officials" to source compromising information on then candidate Donald Trump?

Because to me this looks like the Steele Dossier was doing exactly what it was accusing the Trump Campaign of doing, coordinating with Russian officials to get opposition research on political opponents.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
21. Christopher Steele used his MI5 contacts who made these reports in June 2016
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 10:00 PM
Feb 2018

He wasn't playing the Russians, they freely talked about what they did with Trump, Junior, and his employees. It wasn't until later that the Russians were told to stop talking about Trump to anybody, don't give out any info.

A report, or dossier, telling what somebody else did is very different from running espionage assets and getting them to spy & hack for you. I don't believe Steele himself ever went to Moscow, he just spoke with his colleagues who covered the territory. Then he wrote up the report and gave it to Fusion GPS.

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