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Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 11:48 AM Feb 2018

SUNDAY PROHIBITION IS OVER! SUNDAY PROHIBITION IS OVER!

Last edited Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:32 PM - Edit history (1)

As of March 4, I no longer have to go to Michigan to buy alcohol! One more "Shari'a" law bites the dust! Whoo hoo!

And, the Indiana house, in a stunning moment of WTF, voted to study the possibility of legalizing medical marijuana. Wonders never cease!

https://www.courierpress.com/story/opinion/columnists/jon-webb/2018/02/23/webb-sunday-alcohol-sales-have-arrived-indiana-marijuana-could-next/365998002/

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SUNDAY PROHIBITION IS OVER! SUNDAY PROHIBITION IS OVER! (Original Post) Glamrock Feb 2018 OP
wow...that's a huge leap for the republican stalwarts in Indiana spanone Feb 2018 #1
Right? Glamrock Feb 2018 #6
Really! I didn't think that Indiana was that bad! SWBTATTReg Feb 2018 #2
When did OK get rid of their blue laws? cos dem Feb 2018 #3
Should have grown up there in the '70s... ret5hd Feb 2018 #10
I did grow up there in the 70s. I just didn't pay much attention to alcohol until I got to college. cos dem Feb 2018 #27
I was there in the 70's. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2018 #17
If you were going to Caney, I'm guessing we may have crossed paths. cos dem Feb 2018 #28
I was in Bartlesville about 1970. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2018 #55
Heck, Kansas was still a dry state in the 1970s! 24/7, not just on Sunday. ntnt tblue37 Feb 2018 #33
blue state Minnesota got rid of their law just last year progree Feb 2018 #48
Connecticut did so in 2012, making Indiana the last holdout. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #4
Yes, except for the Sunday thing, your liquor laws are crazy! Glamrock Feb 2018 #8
I remember those days... CTyankee Feb 2018 #16
Kansas is still dry on Sundays. nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #34
Been legal since 2005. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #37
Oh, that explains why it is Sunday dry where I live. nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #38
I can drive into Topeka and get it on Sunday MuseRider Feb 2018 #57
They did just try to take away our CBD. MuseRider Feb 2018 #58
And the souls of my long gone kin from Terre Haute, IN now are screaming Botany Feb 2018 #5
You evoked memories of drives to another county on Sundays Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #7
Yes Glamrock Feb 2018 #9
The rules changed because of a shift in morals ... Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #13
Liquor licensing and liquor wholesaling are a racket in most states. FarCenter Feb 2018 #19
Here liquor is wholesaled and retailed by only the state. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #23
No kidding. Booze distributors are very wealthy dynasties dalton99a Feb 2018 #26
Like Senator McCain's inlaws - money and connections enough to become a Senator! FarCenter Feb 2018 #30
Yep. dalton99a Feb 2018 #31
I guess getting rid of Pence edhopper Feb 2018 #11
When he accepted the nom for vice president Glamrock Feb 2018 #12
Minnesota finally did it, too, last year. MineralMan Feb 2018 #14
Hahaha Glamrock Feb 2018 #15
Indiana has been dry on Sundays? smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #18
Yes they could Glamrock Feb 2018 #21
Did the repealers call it "Shari'a law"? That might be the easiest way to get right on your side yurbud Feb 2018 #20
No Glamrock Feb 2018 #22
Red states need the tax revenue. displacedtexan Feb 2018 #24
Yeah well, Glamrock Feb 2018 #25
with the maggot as president, the people need their booze! Motley13 Feb 2018 #29
Can't you plan ahead? left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #32
Unless you get a call to go to the beach. Glamrock Feb 2018 #35
No left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #36
That's not the point Glamrock Feb 2018 #39
If you have to have your liquor ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #41
I get it. If you need an abortion plan ahead. Glamrock Feb 2018 #43
That was huge when I played rec hockey in Indiana caraher Feb 2018 #45
I'm surprised. GoCubsGo Feb 2018 #40
Not michigan Glamrock Feb 2018 #44
Legalize weed fmdaddio Feb 2018 #42
I have a friend in Indiana politics D_Master81 Feb 2018 #46
Shit man Glamrock Feb 2018 #49
Glad they changed the law The Genealogist Feb 2018 #47
Alcohol destroys millions of lives and families. KWR65 Feb 2018 #50
Again, that's not the point. Glamrock Feb 2018 #52
Alcoholism has nothing to do with religion. KWR65 Feb 2018 #54
Oh ffs! Glamrock Feb 2018 #56
Stunning moment of WTF! Simply WUNNNNderful, Glamrock! calimary Feb 2018 #51
Grassy ass my dear calimary Glamrock Feb 2018 #53

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
6. Right?
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:18 PM
Feb 2018

I mean, it's only a 20 minute drive. But I live pretty close. There's been times I've had a 35-40 minute drive. But, it's the principal. I'm an atheist. Why do I have to make adjustments for your religion?

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
2. Really! I didn't think that Indiana was that bad!
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 11:52 AM
Feb 2018

Good news indeed. I had the same thing in Joplin MO decades ago where we went over into either Oklahoma or Kansas to get around the blue laws (prohibits sale of alcohol Sundays).

cos dem

(903 posts)
3. When did OK get rid of their blue laws?
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:09 PM
Feb 2018

They had them when I lived there in the 80s, in fact the most restrictive alcohol laws of any place I've lived.

Blue laws aren't (or weren't) exclusive to red states either. When I moved to Mass. in the 90s, they had them too. The secret there was NH (the live free or die state). Then I moved to CO, and they only got rid of them a few years ago.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
10. Should have grown up there in the '70s...
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:33 PM
Feb 2018

Beer:
3.2% beer could be sold from convenience stores, chilled.
Over 3.2% beer could be sold only from liquor stores and only warm.
If a particular brand of beer (say Coors or Miller, etc) was sold in convenience stores, it could not be sold in a liquor store. And vice-versa. Therefor, only kinda not-so-popular-brands like (Fosters Lager or Mickeys Big Mouths for example) were sold in liquor stores.

Bars and restaurants:
No liquor by the drink. You would bring your own bottle to the bartender. He would put your name on the bottle and you would pay for a set-up (the mixer, a glass, ice etc)that cost as much as a drink elsewhere. Of course, there were LOTS of bottles marked "Smith" or "Jones" in a LOT of the bars and you could just go buy a drink like anywhere else. But I was in more than one "raid" where they shut the place down for that and arrested the bartender.

When I was pre-18 yrs old, females could buy beer/liquor at 18, men only at 21. Females were considered more responsible. When I turned 18, the law changed to both sexes could buy beer/liquor at 18. When I turned 21 the law changed to both sexes had to be 21.

I never had any trouble buying liquor or strong beer from the liquor store as young as 16. It was harder for me to get 3.2% beer from a convenience store. Go figure.

As an aside, I was also never required to register for the draft. Yes, I'm male. From the above information you could probably stand a good chance of deducing my birthday.

cos dem

(903 posts)
27. I did grow up there in the 70s. I just didn't pay much attention to alcohol until I got to college.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:21 PM
Feb 2018

But, yep, everything you say sounds familiar.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
17. I was there in the 70's.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:59 PM
Feb 2018

You couldn't dance in a beer bar. We had to hide in the back where no one could see us.

Could only drink hard liquor in private clubs. But you could dance there.

Everyone used to drive to Caney. Ks to party.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
55. I was in Bartlesville about 1970.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 03:13 PM
Feb 2018

I was only there for 1 summer. Then I came up to KC to find work. Been here ever since.

My dad worked for Phillips. He was transferred from Spokane to Salt Lake to LA and then to Bartlesville. I stayed in Salt Lake to go to U of U.

So many kids got killed on that windy road to Caney, Ks. We used to play pool and drink beer in a cowboy bar there.

progree

(10,908 posts)
48. blue state Minnesota got rid of their law just last year
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:38 PM
Feb 2018

In July 2017, liquor stores were allowed to sell alcohol on Sunday for the first time

Interestingly, we were the last or close to the last state to change the DWI threshold from 0.10 to 0.08.

Go figure.

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
8. Yes, except for the Sunday thing, your liquor laws are crazy!
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:30 PM
Feb 2018

We did a casino gig in Connecticut and last call was early! And they told us the liquor stores closed at like 9? It's been a few years, I might be off....

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. I remember those days...
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:49 PM
Feb 2018

if you wanted your drink on Sunday you had to remember to buy that bottle of booze or wine by Saturday...my wine store here in New Haven has limited hours on Sunday but I get them to deliver it and I get two cases (Chardonnay and Cab/Merlot blend) for a delivery fee of $10.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
57. I can drive into Topeka and get it on Sunday
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 05:04 PM
Feb 2018

but the hours are odd, I can never remember, something like 1PM-8PM. I always try to get what I might need, I really don't drink enough to think about it much, before Sunday rolls around though.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
58. They did just try to take away our CBD.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 05:06 PM
Feb 2018

Even though there is not a trace of THC in it and it comes from hemp since pot seems like demon weed here still. They still tried to take it away even though it is not trippy and the synthetic they tried to hoist on us was making people sick.

This state is nuts. Simply full of the need to punish someone who is not you. KWIM? Verne Miller, remember him?

Yonnie3

(17,441 posts)
7. You evoked memories of drives to another county on Sundays
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:29 PM
Feb 2018

The little store just over the county line was packed on Sunday. Sometimes the small lot was so full you had to park in the dry county. We nicknamed the store Tijuana.

That rule changed around 1980. Glad you are catching up.

Yonnie3

(17,441 posts)
13. The rules changed because of a shift in morals ...
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:41 PM
Feb 2018

from favoring Sunday sobriety to favoring increased revenues.

Being a very Republican county, it made sure the rule was changed to benefit the few. In a rapidly growing county the new rules also prohibited any NEW alcohol sales licenses within several miles of a church, school and a long list of additional establishments. The R's of course held all these licenses. I think it took 20 years to loosen those regulations.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
19. Liquor licensing and liquor wholesaling are a racket in most states.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:04 PM
Feb 2018

The preacher-bootlegger alliance must have lost its grip in Indiana. That was usually the alliance that kept counties dry back home in the '50s.

Yonnie3

(17,441 posts)
23. Here liquor is wholesaled and retailed by only the state.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:10 PM
Feb 2018

The bootleggers and moonshiners in my area of the county had mostly aged out of the profession by then.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
30. Like Senator McCain's inlaws - money and connections enough to become a Senator!
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:25 PM
Feb 2018

In April 1979,[60] McCain met Cindy Lou Hensley, a teacher from Phoenix, Arizona, whose father had founded a large beer distributorship.[65]

...

McCain set his sights on becoming a congressman because he was interested in current events, was ready for a new challenge, and had developed political ambitions during his time as Senate liaison.[65][74][75] Living in Phoenix, he went to work for Hensley & Co., his new father-in-law Jim Hensley's large Anheuser-Busch beer distributorship.[65] As vice president of public relations at the distributorship, he gained political support among the local business community, meeting powerful figures such as banker Charles Keating Jr., real estate developer Fife Symington III and newspaper publisher Darrow "Duke" Tully.[66][76]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
12. When he accepted the nom for vice president
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:39 PM
Feb 2018

I joked that Trump really was making America great again. Pence was out! That joke bit me in the ass didn't it?

MineralMan

(146,313 posts)
14. Minnesota finally did it, too, last year.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 12:44 PM
Feb 2018

Now, if they'd just let people shop for cars on Sunday, too. Oh, well, clearly Jesus doesn't want you to buy a car on that day.

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
21. Yes they could
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:07 PM
Feb 2018

Bars had to serve food however. And I don't know how long that's been in effect. In the last few years, they started allowing some carryout on Sundays due to the explosion of micro breweries. But it's all legal now, or on 3-4-18 anyway!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
20. Did the repealers call it "Shari'a law"? That might be the easiest way to get right on your side
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:04 PM
Feb 2018

"Tax cuts for the rich are Shari'a law!"

"Attacking public sector unions is imposing Shari'a law!"

and so on.

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
25. Yeah well,
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:16 PM
Feb 2018

We'll just have to see about pot revenue.... My hopes are pretty low. And I can't partake until it's the law of the land + a couple court cases affirming the right (due to job).

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
35. Unless you get a call to go to the beach.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:37 PM
Feb 2018

Or someone comes into town unexpectedly. Or you get bad news and need a drink, or good news and want to celebrate. There's a myriad of reasons the least of which being someone else's religion dictating my behavior. I'm sure you can grasp that concept, no?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
36. No
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:40 PM
Feb 2018

Alcohol is not an essential part of my life.

And if someone just has to have it,
there may be a problem.

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
39. That's not the point
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:43 PM
Feb 2018

My behavior shouldn't be dictated by someone else's religious beliefs. Period. Whether it be abortion, gay marriage, or even buying alcohol on Sunday. If you can't grasp that concept, I got nothing for ya.

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
43. I get it. If you need an abortion plan ahead.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:01 PM
Feb 2018

If you want to be gay married forget about it. If you don't want prayer in public schools tough shit. If you don't want the ten commandments at your courthouse or state Capitol screw you. Yeah I got where you're coming from. Allow religioun based laws to your hearts content, just plan ahead.... Not really left of center are you?

caraher

(6,278 posts)
45. That was huge when I played rec hockey in Indiana
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:28 PM
Feb 2018

My "beer league" games were on Sundays and on teams where there was a clear rotation of beer duty, the Sunday sales prohibition was not considered a valid excuse for leaving the team high and dry.

I don't drink anyway so it didn't matter to me, but it did matter to others

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
40. I'm surprised.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:44 PM
Feb 2018

Not just that Michigan was subjected to blue laws, but that most of the counties in here in my Buybull Belt state ended them years before Michigan did. Perhaps even the whole state.

fmdaddio

(192 posts)
42. Legalize weed
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:48 PM
Feb 2018

I'm an 62 year hippie Dad who lives in Southwest Florida . God I miss having some weed. I was never a heavy smoker but I could make a joint last the whole weekend.
Booze does not do it for me.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
46. I have a friend in Indiana politics
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:34 PM
Feb 2018

He said this passed b/c the Chamber of Commerce and lobbyists wanted it to pass and gave big time $$$ to politicians to make it happen. Dont get it twisted, IN is still in the deeeeep red when it comes to politics. Why for instance, talking to the same guy, he told me there's been a bill pass the state senate THAT REQUIRES PARENTS TO OPT IN FOR ANY TOPIC IN SCHOOLS THAT IS SEX OR SEXUALITY RELATED as opposed to what it is now when you have to opt your child out of it.

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
49. Shit man
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:39 PM
Feb 2018

I'm not fooling myself. But I'll still take the downfall of a religion based law as a win. As new ones pop up, we've got to get them struck down too.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
47. Glad they changed the law
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:37 PM
Feb 2018

I live in Missouri, which is a REALLY wet state. I live next to a grocery store, and can just go over and buy any kind of alcohol I want any time I want, provided the store is open for business. There used to be alcohol blue laws in Missouri, and there are probably still some at the local level in some places, but not in my town, or state-wide.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
50. Alcohol destroys millions of lives and families.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:39 PM
Feb 2018

As a victim of an alcoholic family I find no joy in the alcohol industry making more money off of people's misery.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
54. Alcoholism has nothing to do with religion.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 03:13 PM
Feb 2018

You are no different then a NRA member that believes all teenagers should have a gun in the classroom.

calimary

(81,268 posts)
51. Stunning moment of WTF! Simply WUNNNNderful, Glamrock!
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 02:41 PM
Feb 2018

Simple and stylish as hell! Bonus points for making you laugh!

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