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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 06:33 PM Feb 2018

In case you are wondering why the NRA is tax exempt...

I was curious, so Google told me this.

Groups with an educational or social mission (described in Section 501C3 of the code) pay no taxes and contributions made to them can be deductible.
The NRA has tax exempt status as a Social Welfare organization... 501(c)4

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In case you are wondering why the NRA is tax exempt... (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 OP
Holy shit! dhol82 Feb 2018 #1
My cactus and succulent society was set up the same way. Igel Feb 2018 #3
How do we get the money out of politics? dhol82 Feb 2018 #4
The NRA lobbys through its non-tax-exempt Institute for Legislative Action... PoliticAverse Feb 2018 #2
That's a 501(c)(5) RandomAccess Feb 2018 #5
Then how come I can't deduct the cats? raven mad Feb 2018 #6
Most issue oriented organizations have both a non-exempt and an exempt structure. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #7
Correct. The Brady Campaign itself does the same thing. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #9
And worse than that: groups like the NRA don't have to report DONORS. pnwmom Feb 2018 #8

Igel

(35,317 posts)
3. My cactus and succulent society was set up the same way.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 07:10 PM
Feb 2018

It's a group of citizens that organize around some activity and pool their resources to further their interests at the personal level, provide training, chances for meeting, and to, if need be, defend and promote their interests in the public at large.

So we had cactus and succulent shows, a newsletter, paid dues, had regular meetings at which we were able to learn from each other or from guest speakers. We exchanged communication with other CS&Ss and kept track of governmental actions that might affect us, whether it's a CITES revamp or zoning restrictions or the status of certain C&S. I learned about CITES restrictions on plants and seeds and how to document their propagation from nursery stock, I learned how to deal with some problematic species, how to care for those suffering under my inexpert hand, and wound up not as officer but as newsletter editor.

When CITES was up for review, we had opinions. We belonged to a larger, national organization, paid dues to it, and, in fact, the national organization after sounding out members sent somebody to lobby both in favor of some restrictions (which were needed to protect the species in the wild) as well as against some restrictions. Those we argued against would only serve to create problems in dealing with the widespread trade in propagated plants, for which the only trade in wild specimens was either expanding the gene pool held in captivity or the off-market exotic specimens market, for people who just had to have the right Mamillaria sp. to complete their collection and wanted to get a massive hard-grown specimen; blocking plant imports would handle that, but blocking seed imports we thought bad; the environmentalists we argued against could see no point in such a pointless hobby as collecting a variety of organism and being fascinated by it when, well, there were restrictions that might save some plant specimen somewhere. The response was that without seed-import restrictions for those plants all the seeds each year would be harvested and shipped to 1st world countries--to which we curled up in little balls of laughter. Sometimes we were on the environmentalists' side, and that really upset them because to the extent we had an opinion and spoke up, they thought us their foe (because the world is either foe or ally, apparently).

The NRA may have as its interest firearms, but otherwise their forms differ but slightly from the way we did things. One exception is that they donate to political campaigns and lobbied more. Then again, CS&Ss don't exactly have a lot of money at their disposal.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
4. How do we get the money out of politics?
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 07:18 PM
Feb 2018

I think it is almost too late now but I hope it can be changed.
Don’t know how we can get rid of Citizens United. That is an abomination on our land!

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. The NRA lobbys through its non-tax-exempt Institute for Legislative Action...
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 06:40 PM
Feb 2018

and gives money to candidates through its PAC the "NRA Political Victory Fund".

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
5. That's a 501(c)(5)
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:25 PM
Feb 2018

the PAC, that is.

Unless they've changed the laws since I knew anything about this stuff, a while back.

Actually, I think they have, but primarily by adding one or more new categories. Not sure, tho.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
6. Then how come I can't deduct the cats?
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:26 AM
Feb 2018

They pay visits at a nursing home and the local hospital 3 times a week. They eat a LOT, and OMG, the cost of good litter...........

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
7. Most issue oriented organizations have both a non-exempt and an exempt structure.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:31 AM
Feb 2018

The ACLU and Planned Parenthood do this as well. I donate to the non-exempt portion of ACLU and PP so they can use the money to lobby.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
9. Correct. The Brady Campaign itself does the same thing.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:48 AM
Feb 2018

Should a nonprofit group that advocates for a political position on the issue of gun control be eligible for the favorable 501(c)(4) tax status? Some people here seem to think that the answer is "Yes if I like them, No otherwise." I'll bet there are plenty of people at Free Republic who would agree with that general principle.

Fortunately, the law is to the contrary. The NRA and the Brady Campaign are treated the same way for tax purposes.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
8. And worse than that: groups like the NRA don't have to report DONORS.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:34 AM
Feb 2018

So they can be used to launder donations to a political cause that would have to be reported if it went to a regular pac.

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