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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 07:42 PM Feb 2018

WSJ: Trump Lawyers Seek To Avoid Perjury Trap In Potential Mueller Interview

By Matt Shuham | February 25, 2018 5:43 pm

Lawyers for President Donald Trump are “considering” the ways he could answer special counsel Robert Mueller’s questions under certain conditions, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday, citing an unnamed person familiar with Trump’s legal team’s thinking.

One unnamed person “familiar with the matter” told the Journal that the lawyers’ considerations included whether Mueller’s questions would be limited in scope and whether they avoid testing Trump’s memory such that they would effectively constitute a potential perjury trap.

“Everything is on the table,” the source said. The Journal reported that options included Trump providing written answers to Mueller or giving him “limited verbal testimony,” in the paper’s words.

An unnamed member of the legal team appeared resistant to a potential interview, telling the Journal that Mueller “has all of the notes and memos of the thoughts and actions of this president on all subjects he requested in real time without reservation or qualification, including testimony from his most intimate staff and eight lawyers from the White House Counsel’s Office.”

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WSJ: Trump Lawyers Seek To Avoid Perjury Trap In Potential Mueller Interview (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
Try telling the truth. bullimiami Feb 2018 #1
There are two reasons that won't work PJMcK Feb 2018 #7
It's a certainty. triron Feb 2018 #15
If he isn't competent enough to answer questions at what amounts to a deposition, Sophia4 Feb 2018 #2
And he should be able to do it for 10 or 12 hours straight! fierywoman Feb 2018 #3
Over the exact wording of something said two years ago. Igel Feb 2018 #13
YEAH! fierywoman Feb 2018 #20
Is there really such a thing as a "perjury trap" marylandblue Feb 2018 #4
Perjury-Trap Doctrine Law and Legal Definition DonViejo Feb 2018 #6
Thanks, I just learned something new marylandblue Feb 2018 #8
Why? Igel Feb 2018 #14
A few reasons marylandblue Feb 2018 #18
Just tell the truth, you lying sack of treasonous shit. -eom poboy2 Feb 2018 #5
I can't believe they are still negotiating! RDANGELO Feb 2018 #9
What is Mueller up to you have to wonder. triron Feb 2018 #16
Why would Trump's lawyers fear that questions might test his memory? gratuitous Feb 2018 #10
How telling is that. Basically, they know donnie will lie. Lil Missy Feb 2018 #11
Phony, dishonest pretense and slur. "Perjury traps" are ILLEGAL. Hortensis Feb 2018 #12
Very simple solution: dont lie. brooklynite Feb 2018 #17
For Don-John, that is right up there with "Don't breathe" Maeve Feb 2018 #19
"Everything on the table" up to "limited verbal testimony" Arazi Feb 2018 #21
Bwaahaha! Yeah, because whenever trump speaks he lies KelleyKramer Feb 2018 #22

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
7. There are two reasons that won't work
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:05 PM
Feb 2018

1. Trump is incapable of telling the truth. He'll lie to the investigators.

2. The truth would incriminate Trump. He's guilty of so many crimes.

His lawyers know Trump cannot sit for an interview. Think of what that means! Trump's own lawyers know that he'll lie.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
2. If he isn't competent enough to answer questions at what amounts to a deposition,
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 07:52 PM
Feb 2018

he isn't competent enough to be president.

That's my opinion.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
13. Over the exact wording of something said two years ago.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:35 PM
Feb 2018

When he was busy during the meeting not paying attention but tweeting or looking out the window.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
8. Thanks, I just learned something new
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:10 PM
Feb 2018

But I think they realize Mueller is not going to indict just for perjury.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
14. Why?
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:37 PM
Feb 2018

They got Flynn for lying to investigators. He said one thing one time, one thing another time.

Zwaan, too. For lying.


Perjury is lying, not to investigators but under oath to a court or officer of the court.

If he indicts for lying to an investigator, how much more for lying to the court?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
18. A few reasons
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:09 PM
Feb 2018

First he didn't indict anyone just for lying to investigators. Flynn, Gates, Papadapoulos and Zwaan all pled guilty. The Manafort and Gates indictments were for conspiracy, money laundering plus lying, and hints of even more crimes not yet revealed. Second, in the case of Flynn and Papadapoulos, they pled guilty to lying about things that ostensibly weren't illegal, yet the only reason you would lie about such things is to cover up something related that actually was illegal, and the pleas were in exchange for cooperation. Again showing he is looking for more than mere perjury. Third, this is not a politically motivated Ken Starr investigation, and they know it. Mueller isn't rolling up the Trump Administration just so he can say at the end, I got nothing, let's throw a Hail Mary and see if I can get him in a perjury trap. Starr's Hail Mary didn't work either. Fourth, just based on publicly available info, there is a lot of damning information on Trump and his family. When you have that much information, plus all we don't know, of course a prosecutor is going to want to talk to the big boss, and they know it.

So what they really must be afraid is that Trump will add lying to investigators or perjury to the already long list of potential crimes, or, blabbermouth that he is, he will provide even more incriminating evidence than he already has by tweet.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
9. I can't believe they are still negotiating!
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:12 PM
Feb 2018

Subpoena him to the grand Jury already. Maybe they have so much evidence on him, it doesn't make much difference.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Why would Trump's lawyers fear that questions might test his memory?
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:12 PM
Feb 2018

He has a very good brain, you know, and he is, like, a smart person. Trump himself has said so over and over. But maybe he doesn't remember saying it?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Phony, dishonest pretense and slur. "Perjury traps" are ILLEGAL.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:14 PM
Feb 2018

One would be immediately recognized by these high-level attorneys and result in any charges based on a "trap" be dismissed. But worse than that, it would be used to impeach the integrity of the investigation. The definition can be looked up.

There is 0 chance of this occurring. And this has nothing to do with Trump's memory.

The term is also used colloquially for situations like Clinton faced when, on under oath for one investigation, he was surprised by a question out of left field on a totally unrelated and irrelevant topic. Monica Lewinski. It was formulated with a clear hope of shocking/forcing him into committing perjury by denying an embarrassing and damaging allegation completely unrelated to that investigation. It worked.

Mueller will not be doing this. We're not interested in embarrassing Trump into denying he had sex outside marriage. We're not interested in trumping up an unrelated perjury case because we don't have a real case to prosecute, which was their problem with Clinton.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
19. For Don-John, that is right up there with "Don't breathe"
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:13 PM
Feb 2018

And 'Don-John' because he supposedly hates his middle name (also, 'John' is accurate slang for him, as he is used to paying for sex)

KelleyKramer

(8,969 posts)
22. Bwaahaha! Yeah, because whenever trump speaks he lies
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 02:47 AM
Feb 2018

I have never been able to figure out why anyone would ever want to be Trumps lawyer

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