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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:35 PM Feb 2018

PHOTOS: Here's The Dining Room Set Carson's HUD Is Replacing For $31,561

By Matt Shuham | February 28, 2018 11:27 am

The government agency responsible for low-income housing apparently couldn’t chair less about the cost of its new dining room set.

News broke Tuesday that the Department of Housing and Urban Development signed a contract late last year for a dining set costing more than $31,000 for Secretary Ben Carson’s office.

The cost of the furniture — a hardwood table, chairs and a hutch, according to the New York Times — far exceeded the $5,000 decorating expense limit after which the department would need to ask for Congress’ permission.

A HUD spokesperson told TPM, by way of explanation: “Dining room set is a building expense and is not a part of the Secretary’s decorating budget.”

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/photos-heres-the-dining-room-set-carsons-hud-is-replacing-for-31561

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PHOTOS: Here's The Dining Room Set Carson's HUD Is Replacing For $31,561 (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
The place needs an update but... Renew Deal Feb 2018 #1
Paneling, its in the adjacent office too Historic NY Feb 2018 #8
That is ugly but why didn't they just go to IKEA? nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #2
The federal prison system makes furniture for federal agencies Major Nikon Feb 2018 #12
Do you actually believe that? onenote Feb 2018 #22
I shit you not, oh wise one Major Nikon Feb 2018 #23
Factories with Fences Exotica Mar 2018 #24
I remember researching the exboyfil Mar 2018 #27
That is a butt ugly dining suite! dhol82 Feb 2018 #3
I think the picture is what is being replaced. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #6
"included pictures of the dining room set as-is (see below)" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #13
Exactly what I was going to say zeusdogmom Feb 2018 #11
Dated by today's standards (early American is currently out of fashion?) but solid and functional. Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #4
What a waste. Tasteless crap. He ought to pay for this atrocity himself. BSdetect Feb 2018 #5
There is a Bobs Discount Furniture here in NY dhol82 Feb 2018 #7
+1, they're pocketing the rest of the money ... buncha grifters uponit7771 Feb 2018 #15
Why not have one of the reality decorating shows go on and paint it for cheap? LOL Justice Feb 2018 #9
These photos look like something you could find on Craigslist. logosoco Feb 2018 #10
Buy a fucking tablecloth...problem solved. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #14
Y'all seem unaware OxQQme Feb 2018 #16
I don't understand any of this. Corgigal Feb 2018 #17
Key paragraph.. Cha Feb 2018 #18
They could have had the chairs reupholstered for a few hundred dollars jmowreader Feb 2018 #19
damn right. onethatcares Feb 2018 #20
LOL, my home has similar wood paneling in the family room off the kitchen, and also one wall of... Rollo Feb 2018 #21
Did his wife kick him out again? Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #25
IKEA beckons. Sneederbunk Mar 2018 #26
Why would anyone need a dining room set in their office? blueinredohio Mar 2018 #28
Because they have the public servant thing bassackwards Major Nikon Mar 2018 #29
Maybe Jesus could join him for a last supper Blue Owl Mar 2018 #30
They got screwed. MFM008 Mar 2018 #31
WE got screwed MFM008 Mar 2018 #32
Ugh! RobinA Mar 2018 #33

Renew Deal

(81,880 posts)
1. The place needs an update but...
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:45 PM
Feb 2018

for $31,000 they should be replacing walls and carpets too. It's way too much for a table and chairs.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
8. Paneling, its in the adjacent office too
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:55 PM
Feb 2018

but if it removed who would remember the crappy decor that the 70's brought.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
12. The federal prison system makes furniture for federal agencies
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 01:56 PM
Feb 2018

It's the stuff you see at virtually any federal building

onenote

(42,778 posts)
22. Do you actually believe that?
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:11 PM
Feb 2018

Here's a link to the General Services Administration (GSA) page that lists approved vendors of furniture for federal agencies. Click on the links. You'll see a wide variety of companies, including many with familiar names (eg. Ethan Allan).

https://www.gsa.gov/acquisition/products-services/office-management/furniture

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
27. I remember researching the
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:14 PM
Mar 2018

killers at our Gitchie Manitou State Preserve. It was weird that their prison factory information sheet looked very much like our own including service awards. It is a question what individuals serving long prison sentences do with their time. I don't like the perverse incentive of coerced labor or how it has the potential to displace free market labor, but a suitable system might allow an incentive to work while at the same time establish a vehicle for restitution. It also has a rehabilitation effect.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
3. That is a butt ugly dining suite!
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:48 PM
Feb 2018

Still don’t understand how it costs $31,000. For that amount of money the hardware should be solid gold.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
13. "included pictures of the dining room set as-is (see below)"
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:00 PM
Feb 2018

seems pretty clear to me. That is what is being replaced.

Freethinker65

(10,064 posts)
4. Dated by today's standards (early American is currently out of fashion?) but solid and functional.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:50 PM
Feb 2018

IMO, the wooden paneling is worse than the current dining set. Honestly it looks like the room has seldom been used. Waste of money to update it, and the initial $5000 allowance seems doable.

Looks like a conference room (chairs around a big table that probably sees far more use) is in the adjoining room. That could probably stand for an upgrade in technology for presentations, etc.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
7. There is a Bobs Discount Furniture here in NY
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:52 PM
Feb 2018

You could probably replace the whole set for around $1000.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
10. These photos look like something you could find on Craigslist.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:58 PM
Feb 2018

Probably someone replacing the set because it looks outdated.

OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
16. Y'all seem unaware
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:44 PM
Feb 2018

A table such as that, like a billiards table, needs to be level.
All those supporting feet must carry an equal load.
Laser levels and weight measuring piezos, with the attendant reading software, don't come cheap.

Just imagine some upper crust visitors latte looking oval in it's cup.

Or all the catered food sliding over to one side of the plate!

Horrors.

Cha

(297,764 posts)
18. Key paragraph..
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 04:11 PM
Feb 2018
Ben Carson’s HUD, Planning Cuts, Spends $31,000 on Dining Set for His Office

snip//

Department officials did not request approval from the House or Senate Appropriations Committees for the expenditure of $31,561, even though federal law requires congressional approval “to furnish or redecorate the office of a department head” if the cost exceeds $5,000.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/us/ben-carson-hud-furniture.html

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
19. They could have had the chairs reupholstered for a few hundred dollars
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 04:27 PM
Feb 2018

There's nothing wrong with that dining room set.

onethatcares

(16,192 posts)
20. damn right.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 04:38 PM
Feb 2018

I had the same one back in 1973 and tossed it out after about 5 years.. including the hutch base. Since I was an E-1 at that time, I'm sure I didn't spend a bunch of money on it.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
21. LOL, my home has similar wood paneling in the family room off the kitchen, and also one wall of...
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:02 PM
Feb 2018

the living room.

The paneling is OK in the family room, but I really wish I had removed the one wall of paneling in the living room while I was repainting the home interior when I bought the house about 20 years ago... I didn't because I was worried I'd have to do a lot of plaster work and/or remove the fireplace mantel. As it was I was refinishing the floors too and there was a limit.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
25. Did his wife kick him out again?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:45 AM
Mar 2018

Why does anyone even need a dining set for their office?

What's next, a four-poster bed? That actually would be more appropriate for Ben Carson.

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