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Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice writes in the Financial Times that the American people need to be reminded that the U.S. is not just any other country. She writes:
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/condi-rice-american-people-need-to-be-reminded
Full paragraph:
US must recall it is not just any country
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/f4837046-d67b-11e1-ba60-00144feabdc0.html#axzz21pbyb2PU
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)There's over a million dead because of your lies.
atreides1
(16,093 posts)...to keep people free. It seems the excact opposite is the result...less freedom for the workers...and more money for those that people like Rice and Clarence Thomas love to serve!!!
Cary
(11,746 posts)But if you study the philosophy of freedom you will find that John Stuart Mill, for instance, did not so much include money in the idea of freedom. After all, if someone takes your dollar you can pretty much always get another dollar. It's not like locking you away in a dungeon somewhere, or killing you or a member of your family.
Yet these "conservatives" whine and whine about taxation, or paying to support their own government.
Their idea of "force" of course is not from any great philosopher. It's from third rate science fiction writer and serial killer apologist Ayn Rand.
I hold this against Ayn Rand--not capitalism or free markets. In fact the concept of lassaize faire capitalism works beautifully in an academic context where you want to study the economy. Radical capitalists pervert that concept, as they pervert the concept of freedom, when they attempt to use lassaize faire capitalism as a value of some sort.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)more rapidly than laissez-faire capitalism. Look at history and read some Marx.
Virtually every fool that demands to be "freed from the tyranny of gubmint" is among the first to drop to their knees and beg, even demand, to be enslaved by a corporate master.
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)just forget parts of history..
with someone like condi, clearly on purpose. shes too bright.
the most recent of our history they like to act like never happened are the 1920s until the 1950s.
lets not forget who was in charge during the lead up to the great depression,
and how many democratic terms it took to fix most of it.
tho i do give credit to hoover for realising what a terrible mess he helped create , and signing the revenue act.
FSogol
(45,526 posts)unwavering support for multinational oil companies.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)would make America 'exceptional'. Otherwise, meh, not so much.
Cary
(11,746 posts)But she is an odd mix. I wonder whom she thinks she is referring to when she says "
we are exceptional in the clarity." When I think of her I think of her association with George W. Bush and the word "clarity" doesn't come to mind.
"Greatest foreign policy blunder in our history," that comes to mind. But "clarity?" Pfeh.
grilled onions
(1,957 posts)I notice this awe inspiring cheer leading item did not appear in the out of work gazzette or the homeless daily. Stop giving a pep talk to the very creeps that have caused so many in this country to feel down, to be down. They can't find a job,support their families,lose their home,car,their self worth by companies that insist they must chop off the American job in order to keep those profits up. We have lost representation because they only represent themselves.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)Iggo
(47,565 posts)Johonny
(20,888 posts)a free market still has rules and regulations just as a free American society does. In America we get to vote for those that create the framework of society that we will live in. Without a framework all you have is anarchy and that does not make the majority freer that's why we voted your party's ass out of the White House and we will again!
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)do you feel you earned your appointment as Secretary of State?
treestar
(82,383 posts)And by "freedom" she means freedom from regulation. That impinges on the freedom of others.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)What we've done is show the world that Capitalism thrives best in an undemocratic crony capitalist environment.
America descends into mass unemployment and China owns our debt. All because of free trade.
When this situation explodes in our faces it'll be those 'free markets' and globalism that are ultimately held to blame.
You will most certainly live to see that come to pass.
BTW... Kindasleazy Rice supports globalism.
BumRushDaShow
(129,450 posts)Time to pound on the Rmoney = Bush!
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)and that would mean treating our own people with respect, dignity and fairness. Yes, we are exceptional- but exceptionally what is the question.
The idea that we are so far above everyone else is something that will be our undoing imo.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...I couldn't help noticing that she puts free markets before free peoples.