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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 02:02 PM Mar 2018

Kurt Eichenwald shares Hope Hicks "white lie" about Trump's amphetamine derivatives use in 1982

Kurt Eichenwald? Verified account
@kurteichenwald

White lies: when I asked hope Hicks about trumps use of amphetamine derivatives in 1982, she said he took them for a few days. When I said medical records I had showed he used them till 1990 - or 8 years when 25 days is max before addiction - she called me liberal & hung up.

7:44 AM - 1 Mar 2018




Kurt Eichenwald ?Verified account
@kurteichenwald

....for those wondering, the amphetamine derivatives are known as “chalkies” or “tombstones” when sold on street. Trump had a second doctor he never disclosed who was exposed for providing these to famous people. Trump needed help to kick them. Why have you never heard this?.....

7:52 AM - 1 Mar 2018


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Kurt Eichenwald shares Hope Hicks "white lie" about Trump's amphetamine derivatives use in 1982 (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2018 OP
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2018 #1
So what, It is not relevant and a stupid thing to bring up at this time njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #2
Really?! mac56 Mar 2018 #4
Wow........ Little Star Mar 2018 #6
The point... demmiblue Mar 2018 #7
What leads you to allege the story's irrelevance and stupidity? LanternWaste Mar 2018 #10
You should look up some of the side effects of misusing that drug... Hekate Mar 2018 #11
Agression, paranoia, sleeplessness DBoon Mar 2018 #32
Really? Do tell, 'cuz I seem to recall JUST a day or so earlier, fucker The_REAL_Ecumenist Mar 2018 #19
He could have an IV drip of speed in his arm dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #36
"And Church said, 'AMEN'" The_REAL_Ecumenist Mar 2018 #37
Hi Vlad. trof Mar 2018 #27
Hi Vlad! Raster Mar 2018 #29
In this discussion it doesn't matter whether those things are bad jmowreader Mar 2018 #31
Hmmmm Me. Mar 2018 #3
So you're saying Donald Trump loves Donald Trump? Pope George Ringo II Mar 2018 #5
Didn't Hitler also use them? duforsure Mar 2018 #8
ALL the nazis did, from what Ive read Leghorn21 Mar 2018 #12
Pervertin! Priceless! Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #14
"She called me a liberal and hung up" -- priceless! nt Hekate Mar 2018 #9
I know, right.. that struck me, too. Cha Mar 2018 #39
Truth about tRump sleeping only 4 hours a night comes out. He's a meth-head. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #13
Yep as to why he hardly sleeps! Meth head! n/m machoneman Mar 2018 #15
probably tweets when he tweeks. ;) lol nt Javaman Mar 2018 #21
Let's supply him an ample amount of meth Weed Man Mar 2018 #17
One of the unusual ones who GAIN weight, it seems. n/t dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #38
You only have to look at the crap he pokes in his glop everyday UpInArms Mar 2018 #40
Trump May have been Self-Medicating for his Learning Disabilities dlk Mar 2018 #16
What is an "amphetamine derivative"? LeftInTX Mar 2018 #18
It affects people with ADHD very differently than it does others -- that's why it's prescribed... Hekate Mar 2018 #35
when I was a punk in the late 70's early 80's I knew them as tombstones. Javaman Mar 2018 #20
Speed freaks are erratic and often irrational. mn9driver Mar 2018 #24
Hope Hicks "called me liberal & hung up." area51 Mar 2018 #22
Provided by his housekeeper like Rush Limbaugh? keithbvadu2 Mar 2018 #23
Now what about all those "sniffs" during the debates? Botany Mar 2018 #25
Exactly what I was thinking flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #28
And the dry mouth when he's talking for a while...he's still on something n/t mtngirl47 Mar 2018 #30
He still does it Clarity2 Mar 2018 #33
Reputedly, he was/is taking stimulant "diet pills" Tanuki Mar 2018 #26
Those symptoms sound like the entire Republican Party DBoon Mar 2018 #34

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
2. So what, It is not relevant and a stupid thing to bring up at this time
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 02:07 PM
Mar 2018

Is coffee bad, Is pot Bad,Is alcohol bad

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. What leads you to allege the story's irrelevance and stupidity?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 02:46 PM
Mar 2018

What leads you to allege the story's irrelevance and stupidity at this time?

Or is yours just another bumper sticker claim?

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
11. You should look up some of the side effects of misusing that drug...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 02:50 PM
Mar 2018

...then compare that with DTs known behavior.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(721 posts)
19. Really? Do tell, 'cuz I seem to recall JUST a day or so earlier, fucker
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 03:28 PM
Mar 2018

Talked about wishing he was able to execute ALL drug dealers... Wonder if he'll start with himself? An inquiring mind wants to know. A girl can dream...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. He could have an IV drip of speed in his arm
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:13 PM
Mar 2018

and a needle of heroin in his other arm while snorting coke and he would STILL say he has never used drugs and he is not an addict.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(721 posts)
37. "And Church said, 'AMEN'"
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:39 PM
Mar 2018

I could not show my face in public if I'd done .5% of what he's done. Don't even get me started with his spawn. I don't understand this level of hypocrisy, just don't get it.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
31. In this discussion it doesn't matter whether those things are bad
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:06 PM
Mar 2018

The issue is our tweaker president would put your ass in prison and stand the guy who sold you the stuff up against the wall for doing what he did.

And also that his fan base is going to take the news that Donald Trump was, and may still be, a tweaker as "fake news."

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. Hmmmm
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 02:08 PM
Mar 2018

“Amphetamine[note 1] (contracted from alpha-methylphenethylamine) is a potent central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is used in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), narcolepsy, and obesity. Amphetamine was discovered in 1887 and exists as two enantiomers:[note 2] levoamphetamine and dextroamphetamine. Amphetamine properly refers to a specific chemical, the racemic free base, which is equal parts of the two enantiomers, levoamphetamine and dextroamphetamine, in their pure amine forms. The term is frequently used informally to refer to any combination of the enantiomers, or to either of them alone. Historically, it has been used to treat nasal congestion and depression. Amphetamine is also used as an athletic performance enhancer and cognitive enhancer, and recreationally as an aphrodisiac and euphoriant. It is a prescription drug in many countries, and unauthorized possession and distribution of amphetamine are often tightly controlled due to the significant health risks associated with recreational use.[sources 1]”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
40. You only have to look at the crap he pokes in his glop everyday
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:56 AM
Mar 2018

To see that, too, is unhealthy

I have known several methers that stayed overweight (disclosure: I was in the news business ... so I saw a lot of stuff)

dlk

(11,566 posts)
16. Trump May have been Self-Medicating for his Learning Disabilities
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 03:06 PM
Mar 2018

Often, individuals with undiagnosed or untreated learning disabilities self-medicate with drugs or alcohol. This could be why Trump took amphetamine derivatives for so many years. (He still may.)

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
18. What is an "amphetamine derivative"?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 03:15 PM
Mar 2018

How is it different from regular amphetamines?

I have been taking Adderall for over 20 years.

I was prescribed Dexedrine in 1971 and took it for 3 years. (I was a Freshman in High School with horrific undiagnosed ADHD)

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
35. It affects people with ADHD very differently than it does others -- that's why it's prescribed...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:36 PM
Mar 2018

...to treat ADHD, and why it's a misuse of the drug to do otherwise.

ADHD runs in my family. The first person ever diagnosed and treated was my nephew, when he was 5 or 6, and he's now 30. Once you know what you're looking at, the signs are everywhere in earlier generations.

Anyway, congratulations on successful treatment.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
20. when I was a punk in the late 70's early 80's I knew them as tombstones.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 03:36 PM
Mar 2018

I never took them but many would before going into the slam pit.

some nights I avoided the pit because it was just too fucking dangerous with many guys hopped up.

mn9driver

(4,426 posts)
24. Speed freaks are erratic and often irrational.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 04:03 PM
Mar 2018

That explains a lot. Does anyone seriously believe he isn’t still popping?

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
28. Exactly what I was thinking
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 04:46 PM
Mar 2018

With all the shitty food he eats, why doesn't he weigh 500 lbs?

Amphetamines would explain so much, the mood swings, erratic rants, sleep problems.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
33. He still does it
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:21 PM
Mar 2018

I knew he was on something all along. This must be it.

Check out that video of him and pence doing a speech at the fbi headquarters early after his election. They were both sniffling and sweating.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
26. Reputedly, he was/is taking stimulant "diet pills"
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 04:18 PM
Mar 2018
http://gawker.com/rumor-doctor-prescribes-donald-trump-cheap-speed-1782901680



..."in 1992, when Spy magazine wrote, “Have you ever wondered why Donald Trump has acted so erratically at times, full of manic energy, paranoid, garrulous? Well, he was a patient of Dr. [Joseph] Greenberg’s from 1982 to 1985.” At the time, Dr. Greenberg was notorious for allegedly doling out prescription stimulants to anyone who could pay.

In 1993, Harry Hurt’s unauthorized biography on Trump, Lost Tycoon, corroborated the rumors and went one step further:

The diet drugs, which [Trump] took in pill form, not only curbed his appetite but gave him a feeling of euphoria and unlimited energy. The medical literature warned that some potentially dangerous side effects could result from long-term usage; they included anxiety, insomnia, and delusions of grandeur. According to several Trump Organization insiders, Donald exhibited all these ominous symptoms of diet drug usage, and then some.

The supposed drug Trump took back then was Tenuate Dospan, a drug with speed-like effects that’s not unlike dexedrine.

These rumors say Trump stopped seeing Dr. Greenberg decades ago. But according to our source, the Donald Trump of today is on a diet drug called phentermine—and has been since at least April of 2014.
......

C. Richard Allen, the director of the Georgia Drugs and Narcotics Agency, called phentermine “cheap speed” to The New York Times. Side effects of phentermine include:

Trouble with thinking, speaking, or walking
Decreased ability to exercise
False or unusual sense of well-being
Insomnia
Nervousness
Increase in sexual ability, desire, drive, or performance
Confusion".....
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DBoon

(22,366 posts)
34. Those symptoms sound like the entire Republican Party
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 05:22 PM
Mar 2018

I sometimes wonder if meth abuse isn't behind a lot of right wing politics

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