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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Kurt Eichenwald releases spiked NEWSWEEK story on Trump medical health, drug use...
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fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)According to the Toxicology Data Network at the National Institutes of Health, diethylpropion has a high risk of dependency and chronic abuse such as taking it for years can cause delusions, paranoia, and hyperactivity. Studies in medical journals also report it can result in sleeplessness and impulse control problems, characteristics Trump demonstrated throughout the campaign and in the weeks since his inauguration.
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(52,243 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)IDK if he tweaks.
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(52,243 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,605 posts)I read it but I didn't see that specific name of the drug he is talking about.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)
someone who said Trump would consider him a friend and a former Trump executive
the then-real estate developer boasted that the diethylpropion gave him enormous energy and helped him concentrate. A former Trump executive claimed to have picked up the medication while running errands for the boss. This person said the prescription, for 75 milligrams of diethylpropion a day, was filled at least for a time at a Duane Reade drugstore on 57
th
Street in Manhattan, a few blocks from Trump Tower. The executive said, like many celebrities, Trump used an alias for the prescription.
https://www.scribd.com/document/372716093/According-to-Medical-Records-Obtained-by-Newsweek
BigmanPigman
(51,605 posts)The effects wore off 25 years ago so what is his excuse now?
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Didnt Manafort drop a bunch of dough there?
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)3 - "The medical records and interviews with former officials with the Trump Organization reveal that Greenberg gave Trump a prescription for amphetamine derivatives in 1982 to treat his metabolic problem; the records show that Trump continued taking the drugs for a number of years and the former officials said that Trump stopped using them in 1990 at the latest.
4 - The derivatives were diethylpropion, known under its brand name as tenuate dospan."
dhol82
(9,353 posts)That speed was very effective for weight loss.
3Hotdogs
(12,384 posts)High blood pressure, belly fat and high cholesterol.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)slurred speech
trouble with breathing
twitching, twisting, or uncontrolled repetitive movements of the tongue, lips, face, arms, or legs
confusion
trouble sleeping - unable to sleep
hair loss
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)I'd bet he's still at it.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)Trump had always been aggressive sometime brutal in business as well as loose with the truth, but in the late 1980s, things had become much worse. While former employees said he had often been thoughtful and caring to his staff, he suddenly exhibited abusive behavior that at times seemed irrational. His self-aggrandizement grew to delusions of grandeur, his thin skin thinned more, his decisions grew more reckless. While he had always been a liar when it was convenient, he sputtered greater numbers of falsehoods at an alarming rate and seemed to believe them.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)guidance. Dad had always helped Trump and kept him from crashing. For some years as dad's Alzheimer's progressed, he was increasingly on his own and developing serious financial problems.
Without the planetary explosion in the sheer amount of wealth, a world where it became normal for someone to pay a quarter to half million dollars just to provide a big trophy speaker for an event, Trump would certainly have destroyed himself. Even then he managed to hang on by monetizing his name and supplying an enormous new market for laundering the new wealth for organized crime, including Russian oligarchs.
At one point, during his investigative series on Trump, Eichenwald tweeted that he believed Trump was in a mental hospital in the 1990s. I saw that when it was posted, and it was a straightforward statement standing on its own. Whatever is going on with this, I don't believe Eichenwald's later claims that it was just part of an inside joke. That implausible retraction and a couple other things have also caused me to go cautious on Eichenwald. Great journalistic talent is not always accompanied by scrupulous ethics and judgement.
blake2012
(1,294 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)The worst impact of this recklessness may have been on his business; before the late 1980s, Trump usually focused on one major project at a time to ensure everything met his exacting standards. By the end of the decade, his reckless shopping spree was legion: he borrowed billions to open one Atlantic City casino after another, launching another one before any had turned a profit and ultimately creating a business model where he was competing with himself. As the scaffolding under his gaming business started collapsing, he borrowed even more money to buy his own airline. All of those late-1980s businesses flopped, sending Trump companies into multiple bankruptcies.
Nitram
(22,803 posts)Impulsive, short attention span, always looking for more stimulation, grandiose, with feelings of omnipotence and godlike power.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)that Trump had a Dr. Feelgood who would prescribe him amphetamines.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)Not that Trump and Hitler are anything alike....
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)The parallels were too scary to contemplate.
OMGWTF
(3,957 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)So yeah, Hitler and Trump have their differences.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)He was almost as sick as The Donald.
japple
(9,828 posts)feared being poisoned and the list is endless...
captain queeg
(10,201 posts)Ive been thinking trumps rise to power has a lot of similarities to Hitler and Germany for a long time now. Biggest contrast were that Hitler was very smart (unlike...you get the picture) and that Germany was much more homagenous. But both men ruthless.
I can tell youve read about Hitler and Dr Morrell; his personal pusher. Not sure about Donnies early years but he likes to brag about never drinking and Hitler was a vegetarian. Hitler hooked up with Dr Morrell to treat his digestive issues including horrible flatulence. At any rate Hitler was really a political genius and combine that with ruthlessness he set the world on fire. And the timing of his rise coincided with new technology; radio and movies with sound. The propaganda fell on fertile soil. Trump has the internet. Maybe if we can survive humanity will learn how to curb proooganda.
I think if hed had stayed in that mode wed all be speaking German now but I really think Hitlers drug use set him up to fail. Like a lot of drug users it really helped him at first. I cant really pinpoint when he started going off the deep end. (Id guess during the battle for Moscow and kept going). In the earlier days of the war he stayed out of his generals way (mostly). But I think when the Russian campaign started dragging on: thats when his usage skyrocketed along with the grandiosity that came from being a speed freak. He was so convinced of what a genius he was (very stable genius) that he took direct control of the military and as he got deeper and deeper into the drugs he really lived in his own fantasy world which meant 10s of millions would die.
Sort of the end chapter with Hitler was he finally had to begin to see how bad things really were and of course he wasnt going to take amy responsibility so decided Germany was unworthy of his greatness. He actively tried to destroy what was left Germany. I could certainly see Trump acting like that. But lets temember one of my first points; Trump is really stupid thank God.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)that Der Führer was horribly flatulent as well as being otherwise horrible. I am now imagining the bunker scene in "Downfall" with frequent farting, and I wonder if Trump is also a passer of gas (considering what he eats, that's pretty likely). He's the sort of guy who'd let a silent one loose in an elevator and deflect blame by glaring at the person next to him.
Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)He is studying Hitler's rise to power in his history class right now, and he can see the parallels. I've never heard him say anything about politics before.
Hekate
(90,705 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Does he have a new prescription?
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Just checking.
Nitram
(22,803 posts)It could be he just switched brands.
j3161usa
(44 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)peggysue2
(10,829 posts)Trump was positively unhinged. Or several interviews where he's been unable to string a single cogent thought together. The unedited version of the Wall St Journal interview, for instance. He was bonkers!
IMHO, the Trumpster's behavior and affect have always sounded, looked and read like a man flying high on . . . something. Chronic, long-term use of these drugs do real cognitive damage.
We're looking at a truly damaged carcass.
Btw, yes the comments about Newsweek are equally appalling. But I think many of us suspected that a number of journos and editors were in on the fix.
Glorfindel
(9,730 posts)Sleeplessness, nervousness, anxiety, etc., not a bit of fun.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He drinks 12 Diet Cokes a DAY! That is a serious amount of caffeine to ingest, especially for someone as unhealthy as he is. Between the speed and the massive Diet Coke consumption, he must have done some serious damage to his heart.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)to his heart???? what heart smirkey???
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Texin
(2,596 posts)If not that one specifically, he may be taking another by a different prescriber (or obtaining it illegally - just sayin').
GrapesOfWrath
(524 posts)It just explains a lot, the pieces just fall into place
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Get up there and say he wasn't on these drugs.
The same doctor who worked with Obama for the past few years.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)if you lie to your doctor in your exam, they'll report what you said, not that you lied about it unless it's verifiably false.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)oh, what tests would those be?
does your doctor run drug tests on you?
Calista241
(5,586 posts)But a real, believable, credentialed, military doctor (who was also Obamas doctor) examined the President and went on TV to say he was in excellent health.
Your evidence is an anonymously sourced story that even the media outlet that produced the story would not run it.
You and anyone else who pitches this scandal have a super high bar to overcome. And even if you did overcome that bar, nobody would give a shit. W Bush snorted coke. Bill Clinton smoked weed. Nobody gave a shit then either.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and if you're saying he took a drug screen or that a cholesterol test or complete blood count will show his drug use, YOU'RE the one making stuff up, not to mention, ignorant stuff at that!
it is also quite standard for physicians to ask about your eating habits, drug use, etc. and to report those responses in your record. but in your world, the doctor is either clairvoyant, gave Trump a lie detector test or gave him a drug screen that would detect that drug.
and you accuse me of making shit up.
red dog 1
(27,816 posts)He did admit that, but he claimed that he "didn't inhale."
Chakaconcarne
(2,453 posts)....and he is pushing obesity...... Perhaps explains why he is able to get by on 4 hours sleep a night.
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Common
Cardiovascular: Increased blood pressure (Mild), Palpitations - rapid (Mild)
Dermatologic: Rash, Urticaria
Gastrointestinal: Constipation, Nausea, Stomach cramps, Vomiting, Xerostomia
Neurologic: Central nervous system stimulation, Dizziness, Headache, Insomnia, Pain
Ophthalmic: Blurred vision, Mydriasis
Psychiatric: Restlessness
Serious
Cardiovascular: Cardiac dysrhythmia, Cardiomyopathy
Hematologic: Agranulocytosis, Leukopenia
Neurologic: Cerebral ischemia, Cerebrovascular accident
Psychiatric: Psychotic disorder (rare)
Respiratory: Idiopathic pulmonary arterial hypertension
Other: Drug dependence (rare)
Monitoring
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weight loss
blood pressure
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onset or aggravation of exertional dyspnea, unexplained symptoms of angina, syncope or lower extremity edema
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Contraindications
advanced arteriosclerosis
agitated states
during or within 14 days of MAO inhibitors
glaucoma
history of drug abuse
hypersensitivity or idiosyncrasy to sympathomimetic amines
hyperthyroidism
severe hypertension
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)why he's still alive.
central scrutinizer
(11,650 posts)Human bodies can take a lot of punishment
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)...remember the debates and all of the sweating, post nasal drip, and slurred speech. He was definitely on something.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)the dude is drugged up.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Or maybe it was stopping that extra bucket of chicken......
appalachiablue
(41,140 posts)We know why!
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Bigredhunk
(1,349 posts)I didn't get all the sniffing during the debates. I argued with a friend of mine who thought drumpf did it to throw HRC off (didn't work of course). I didn't think that had anything to do with it. And, of course, there wasn't much media coverage of it. Al Gore sighed and we had to alert the church elders. drumpf audibly sniffs constantly through 3 debates and nobody says much about it.
Maraya1969
(22,482 posts)I also with one of the reporters had asked the White House doctor if Trump had been tested for Cocaine during his physical
iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)red dog 1
(27,816 posts)he claimed that the "sniffling" sound was due to a "bad microphone"
However, he also had sniffles during the second debate as well.
(Was that also due to a "bad mic"?)
He's a pathological liar, and this shows that he lies about everything!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)tried Weed.
tavernier
(12,389 posts)I think Obama wrote about it in his book, if memory serves.
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)Is the user's personality previous to using. Most folks don't like being all jacked up for weeks on end........
heaven05
(18,124 posts)will escape this one also. 66 million + people plus GOP don't care if the IIC goes out on 5th Ave in new York and murders someone, probably-perferably by them, AN AA. Much Ado About Nothing. It won't change a thing except my perception that we have a very dangerous sociopath as potus being enabled by a very racist administration and the GOP.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)KellyAnn Speedway! She has the right appearance. I'd venture a guess that she knows where the drug stores are.
Takket
(21,573 posts)Especially when under the stress of having Hillary Clinton beat your sorry ass all over the debate stage?
mainer
(12,022 posts)Jim has protected his reporters and shepherded other hard-hitting stories into the public eye.
red dog 1
(27,816 posts)He's still taking Finasteride, a hair loss medication.
One of the many side effects of this drug is "runny nose"
"Trump Health Exam: President Still Taking Hair Loss Drug.."
{Newsweek, Jan. 17, 2018}
Sorry, due to computer pbs I'm unable to post a link