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riversedge

(70,311 posts)
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:39 AM Mar 2018

Shes in Immense Personal Jeopardy: Even for Hope Hicks, the West Wing Got Too Hot

I almost feel sorry for her. But it is more like I pity her.











“She’s in Immense Personal Jeopardy”: Even for Hope Hicks, the West Wing Got Too Hot

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/even-for-hope-hicks-the-west-wing-got-too-hot?mbid=social_twitter


“Emotionally overwhelmed” by the headlines over Rob Porter, manipulated by Kelly, and interviewed by Mueller and Congress, the president’s surrogate daughter is leaving the Trump bunker at one of his toughest moments.
by

Gabriel Sherman

March 1, 2018 2:09 pm

................................................) Since the inauguration, nearly two dozen senior officials have quit or been pushed out. But even for a White House roiled by firings and resignations, the announcement that Hope Hicks was quitting was of a different magnitude, reaching into Trump’s own bunker in a way no other event has to this point.

The 29-year-old Hicks serves as communications director, but her role and power in the West Wing and in the president’s daily life is vastly more significant than any formal title. She’s been a constant presence at Trump’s side from the inception of his presidential run in 2015, serving as a gatekeeper and emotional support system for the temperamental chief executive. She defends Trump fiercely, and Trump returns the loyalty. Staffers remark that Trump treats Hicks—“Hope-y” as he calls her—like a surrogate daughter. Her centrality was such that it was hard to imagine Trump functioning without her.

.........................

The tipping point for Hicks was more personal, sources said. She was “emotionally overwhelmed” by seeing herself in the headlines during her boyfriend Rob Porter’s domestic abuse scandal, one Hicks friend told me. Hicks expressed disbelief at the allegations that Porter beat his ex-wives. She’s recently told people she’s no longer dating Porter.


Another factor in her exit was her deteriorating relationship with Chief of Staff John Kelly. “He’s a wartime general and he’s turned the West Wing into a war zone,” the friend recalled Hicks complaining.
Kelly blamed Hicks for orchestrating the White House’s defense of Porter, given her personal conflict in the story. .....................................................

Hicks’s decision to leave is the latest sign of how adept Kelly has been at reversing his own fortunes. Just weeks ago, the chief was on the ropes, his reputation for straight shooting in dire danger. It was revealed he’d promoted Porter even after he knew about the domestic abuse; and it was Kelly who helped blow up immigration-reform talks by calling DACA recipients “lazy.” “You know how Rahm Emanuel said, ‘Never let a good crisis go to waste?’ That’s what Kelly did,” a Republican close to the White House said. But at seemingly his lowest moment, Kelly pulled off a masterstroke by promulgating new security-clearance rules that neutralized his biggest West Wing rivals: Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. “The Jivanka team is crumbling,” a person close to the White House said. A day before Hicks resigned, Kushner’s spokesman Josh Raffel announced he, too, was quitting. Between the relentless chaos of the West Wing and the looming Mueller investigation, even the most committed staffers are re-evaluating their options..............................
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Shes in Immense Personal Jeopardy: Even for Hope Hicks, the West Wing Got Too Hot (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2018 OP
She suffers from really bad judgment, and now she is reaping the results. milestogo Mar 2018 #1
REALLY bad judgement! samnsara Mar 2018 #51
As Batman might say . . . gratuitous Mar 2018 #2
Exactly.. HipChick Mar 2018 #5
Me neither. Anybody who has had anything to do with this whole fiasco.... pangaia Mar 2018 #27
Nah...I don't feel sorry or pity for her... HipChick Mar 2018 #3
Lie down with dogs and you get up with fleas redstateblues Mar 2018 #21
LOLOL pangaia Mar 2018 #28
Yeah, she thinks "Liberal" is a Cha Mar 2018 #66
She took advantage of her pretty people card Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #4
This. She gets no sympathy from me. calimary Mar 2018 #43
Hope Hicks is no innocent babe in the woods dalton99a Mar 2018 #6
Exactly. She deserves everything she gets. She's an adult who made her own bed. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #10
And she helped Trump cover up collusion with Putin. yardwork Mar 2018 #12
Conspiring against the United States. -eom poboy2 Mar 2018 #18
Lying and conspiracy. yardwork Mar 2018 #19
+1... SidDithers Mar 2018 #14
My sentiment as well. Damn Llorana! RestoreAmerica2020 Mar 2018 #62
Bannon did that, too. Scaramooch was supposed to. Melania serves that purpose. lindysalsagal Mar 2018 #63
Karma is a profound truth vlyons Mar 2018 #7
I think she will end up being one of the keys to bringing Trump down Exotica Mar 2018 #8
I think her father did tell her to stay away from Trump marylandblue Mar 2018 #49
Prosecutors are because jurors are. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #64
She's almost 30 years old..... Little Star Mar 2018 #9
Good point. pangaia Mar 2018 #30
Agree 100% PJMcK Mar 2018 #47
She knew what she was doing. Adrahil Mar 2018 #11
ZERO sympathy. Golden Raisin Mar 2018 #13
At $179,700 a year - the highest salary for White House staff dalton99a Mar 2018 #20
She wanted to play the game Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #15
Kelly may be "adept....at reversing his own fortunes.." but..and there is a strong "but" Stuart G Mar 2018 #16
Can't imagine the harassment she endured Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #17
I'm not sure all those probable "sexual advances" calguy Mar 2018 #22
It's hard to imagine Mad King Donald... regnaD kciN Mar 2018 #37
May be why True Blue American Mar 2018 #54
And she voluntarily Mr.Bill Mar 2018 #38
As Porky Pig once proclaimed... chwaliszewski Mar 2018 #23
Maybe if all Americans had plenty to eat, could get their medicines, Ilsa Mar 2018 #24
Not just a regular rat leftieNanner Mar 2018 #33
Well said. The media seems fascinated with her. I pass by most riversedge Mar 2018 #73
When I was 30 years old...I was a single parent with two kids Horse with no Name Mar 2018 #25
+1,000,000 n/t NNadir Mar 2018 #74
I see she has gotten her public relations people working. nt jrthin Mar 2018 #26
Exactly! Poor Hope. nt tomp Mar 2018 #44
IMO she knew exactly what she was getting into. And after one year of Trump she had to know. And if RKP5637 Mar 2018 #29
Dont worry, she'll make a ton off of appearances, interviews, books, etc. 7962 Mar 2018 #31
Rumors of a Hope Hicks diary has publishers scrambling and could lead to a $10 million book deal Exotica Mar 2018 #58
Whaaaaaa snort Mar 2018 #32
The problem with loving 'power trips' is that way too many people don't think about what could go malaise Mar 2018 #34
Yeah, well, she was happy to lie down with the dogs, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #35
Do not feel one moment of sympathy for her. TNNurse Mar 2018 #36
her actions hurt millions AlexSFCA Mar 2018 #39
Maybe trump lillypaddle Mar 2018 #40
Great point. bronxiteforever Mar 2018 #53
Mark me down on the "No Pity, No Mercy" side of the ledger. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2018 #41
She's a soulless sack of lying shit. Do people empathize with her because she's pretty? SunSeeker Mar 2018 #42
Probably. All you need in this day and age is a pretty, camera-ready face. calimary Mar 2018 #50
"This is a sign the Mueller investigation is a lot more serious than anyone of us thought." BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #45
the cheerleader could eat shit and die for all I care. Javaman Mar 2018 #46
I'm not defending her either, but.. NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #48
Kelly knows how to wage war though. Ligyron Mar 2018 #52
Another victim believes Trump - I doubt he cares. rurallib Mar 2018 #55
She knew who they were gibraltar72 Mar 2018 #56
She will play damsel in distress card The empressof all Mar 2018 #57
"Immense Personal Jeopardy" - what does that even mean? calimary Mar 2018 #59
I think it means she committed crimes and better fess up now. marylandblue Mar 2018 #61
Legal jeopardy in this case. Prison is possible. Hortensis Mar 2018 #70
Sympathy? Fuck that. She's a co-conspirator Mr. Ected Mar 2018 #60
Yeah, I'll save my sympathy for Cha Mar 2018 #67
she has been pimping for Trump for a LONG time Skittles Mar 2018 #65
If she goes to prison and is forever shunned by civil society she will have gotten what she deserves Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #68
i kinda felt that way too...but about Spicey. Its like he was a little pet samnsara Mar 2018 #69
I feel nothing for her. Just another of 45s "best people" who isn't RainCaster Mar 2018 #71
I still insist Hicks and Trump have (or had) a romantic relationship. betsuni Mar 2018 #72

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. As Batman might say . . .
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:44 AM
Mar 2018

"Poor, deluded girl."

I'm not that charitable towards a grown woman who's known all along what sort of handcart she jumped on years ago.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
5. Exactly..
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:47 AM
Mar 2018

I worked for someone once, who asked me to lie....it would have the sort of lie that would have got me blackballed in my industry... he made my life hell for not doing what he asked.....I did quit, but also reported what he was doing...

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
3. Nah...I don't feel sorry or pity for her...
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:46 AM
Mar 2018

She knew the what she was laying down with...and Trump paid for an apartment for her...lay down with fleas and that's what you get....
they can lock her up too, maybe she'll get to wear designer Orange jump suit..

Cha

(297,733 posts)
66. Yeah, she thinks "Liberal" is a
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 08:03 PM
Mar 2018

dirty word.

I forget who she hung up on with that supposed epithet. Not too bright.

Kingofalldems

(38,488 posts)
4. She took advantage of her pretty people card
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:47 AM
Mar 2018

and now she's in big trouble. Trump hired her based on looks. No sympathy for her at all.

calimary

(81,514 posts)
43. This. She gets no sympathy from me.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:26 PM
Mar 2018

She walked right into this, willingly. Nobody forced her or pushed her or made her do anything.

A willing volunteer partner in crime.

dalton99a

(81,599 posts)
6. Hope Hicks is no innocent babe in the woods
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:50 AM
Mar 2018

She is a PR pro who makes a living by making bad people look good.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Exactly. She deserves everything she gets. She's an adult who made her own bed.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:57 AM
Mar 2018

I have no pity for her. Not only that, but she has famously bad judgement in just about everything. Her name and reputation are tarnished for life and she's only 29. She did this to herself.

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
12. And she helped Trump cover up collusion with Putin.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 11:04 AM
Mar 2018

Hicks is one of the people destroying our democracy. I hope she goes to prison.

lindysalsagal

(20,733 posts)
63. Bannon did that, too. Scaramooch was supposed to. Melania serves that purpose.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:14 PM
Mar 2018

Sharah Huckser, Conway, even Kelly. They're all an attempt to put lipstick on a pig.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
7. Karma is a profound truth
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:50 AM
Mar 2018

If you make bad decisions, you can expect bad outcomes of suffering and unhappiness. Karma is just like gravity; it never stops working. The only redeeming virtue of bad karma is the possibility of using mistakes to learn and gain wisdom. But will she? No one twisted her arm to work for Trump. Leaving the WH might be the only smart thing that she has done in years. If she were really smart, she would contact Mueller, hand over her diary, and offer to help his investigation to the best of her ability.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
8. I think she will end up being one of the keys to bringing Trump down
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:53 AM
Mar 2018

She showed really poor judgement, so hard to have an immense amount of pity for her, you reap what you so. Her parents (her father has a high-end PR background) should have counselled her long ago to get the hell away from Trump, especially after he "won". Being a high level employee of his comes with a short half-life and is incredibly fraught with peril.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
49. I think her father did tell her to stay away from Trump
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:35 PM
Mar 2018

Also, I think it is no coincidence her parents came to Washington after the Porter thing blew up. I expect they are telling her to cut a deal with Mueller right now.

She is likely to get little or no jail time. Prosecutors are suckers for young, pretty idiots who have lots of good information.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
9. She's almost 30 years old.....
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:56 AM
Mar 2018

I was working full time, a mother of 4, shopping/ cooking & cleaning for my family.

Sorry no sympathy here. We all make our own choices in life and have to live with the consequences.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
30. Good point.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:48 PM
Mar 2018

At her age I had been playing Mahler, Beethoven and Shostakovich symphonies for 10 years.

Tough beans...

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. She knew what she was doing.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 11:03 AM
Mar 2018

Like Trump, she believed she lived in a privileged bubble where everyday concerns of the little and ugly people do not apply to her. Rules? Those are for ordinary people.

I hope she goes to jail.

Golden Raisin

(4,614 posts)
13. ZERO sympathy.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 11:19 AM
Mar 2018

A woman who willingly worked for, took a salary from and publicly defended a self-admitted and unrepentant pussy-grabber.

Stuart G

(38,449 posts)
16. Kelly may be "adept....at reversing his own fortunes.." but..and there is a strong "but"
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 11:27 AM
Mar 2018

I think he will go down too. This whole administration is a disaster waiting to blow up and go down..

Johnny2X2X

(19,119 posts)
17. Can't imagine the harassment she endured
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 11:33 AM
Mar 2018

This woman was near to Trump several hours every day, I can't imagine the piggish insults, and constant sexual advances she had to endure. Trump is truly a monster, and she used this girl and now has spit her out to be left to the wolves.

I don't have much sympathy for her, but she had to have endured some of the worst working conditions known. Trump treated her like a whore and humiliated her every chance he got.

calguy

(5,334 posts)
22. I'm not sure all those probable "sexual advances"
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:33 PM
Mar 2018

Were not unwanted or rejected. It's well known she has no problem sleeping with married men and I wouldn't be surprised if she filled in for Melania the first few months before she moved into the White House.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
37. It's hard to imagine Mad King Donald...
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:06 PM
Mar 2018

...allowing an attractive young woman such power and proximity to him without her providing sexual favors (remember, this is the guy who said he'd be "dating" his own daughter if they weren't related), but I suppose it's possible that, at his age, Donnie Littlefingers' sex life is now only in his imagination.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
24. Maybe if all Americans had plenty to eat, could get their medicines,
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:39 PM
Mar 2018

could see a doctor when necessary, could get a free and appropriate (including post-secondary) education, had a safe, affordable place to live, etc then maybe I could give a zarking rat's frood about Hope Hick's problems.

riversedge

(70,311 posts)
73. Well said. The media seems fascinated with her. I pass by most
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 09:58 AM
Mar 2018

articles last several days-there are so, so many.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
25. When I was 30 years old...I was a single parent with two kids
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:41 PM
Mar 2018

coping with a serious disease and working full time.

She is not a babe in the woods.
She is a woman that is entering the middle aged world.

Multitudes of women who aren't as pretty as she is have been made to suffer for stupid mistakes made at a much younger age...costing them future jobs and opportunities.

She went all-in on a losing hand.

She should pay for those consequences like anyone else who is not as pretty or connected as she is.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
29. IMO she knew exactly what she was getting into. And after one year of Trump she had to know. And if
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:46 PM
Mar 2018

she were not so pretty, tRump would have passed her right over. I feel no sympathy for her at all.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
31. Dont worry, she'll make a ton off of appearances, interviews, books, etc.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:50 PM
Mar 2018

Trump said he'd pay legal fees in the past, he oughta pay hers too

malaise

(269,188 posts)
34. The problem with loving 'power trips' is that way too many people don't think about what could go
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:54 PM
Mar 2018

wrong and what are the consequences for themselves.
Nah - I have no pity for these greedy, unethical power seekers.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
35. Yeah, well, she was happy to lie down with the dogs,
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:57 PM
Mar 2018

so why should she be surprised to be getting up with fleas (no offense intended to dogs or fleas)? Anybody who wants to work with that bunch needs to stock up on Capstar.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
36. Do not feel one moment of sympathy for her.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:00 PM
Mar 2018

And for the Republican who did not think the Mueller investigations was that serious, well you are someone who voted for Trump, so your judgment is suspect about everything.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
39. her actions hurt millions
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:16 PM
Mar 2018

She is a reckless defender of indefensible. I don’t feel sorry for her at all especially if she violated the law by aiding conspiracy against the US.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,571 posts)
41. Mark me down on the "No Pity, No Mercy" side of the ledger.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:16 PM
Mar 2018

Everything I would want to say about her and her situation has been covered nicely by previous comments.

SunSeeker

(51,728 posts)
42. She's a soulless sack of lying shit. Do people empathize with her because she's pretty?
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:24 PM
Mar 2018

Seriously, what the fuck is up with these suggestions of sympathy for these money-grubbing hacks?

She agreed to lie for money. That was her job. And she hurt her country in the process. She should be in tears about that but she is not. Her tears are simply self-pity over being found out.

calimary

(81,514 posts)
50. Probably. All you need in this day and age is a pretty, camera-ready face.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:36 PM
Mar 2018

Last edited Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:19 PM - Edit history (1)

and you’re set for life. And you get away with all kinds of shit. I’m betting Pox Noise will pick her up right away as an anchor or “special correspondent” of some sort. As soon as they think the way is clear, that is.

BumRushDaShow

(129,560 posts)
45. "This is a sign the Mueller investigation is a lot more serious than anyone of us thought."
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:27 PM
Mar 2018

WTF did they think this was, a scripted reality show? A big joke?

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
46. the cheerleader could eat shit and die for all I care.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:27 PM
Mar 2018

the amount of fucks I have for anyone in this administration ran out way before the election.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
48. I'm not defending her either, but..
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:27 PM
Mar 2018

Kelly blaming her for the Porter disaster is the height of craven hypocrisy. HE was the one who loudly and publicly praised and defended Porter TWICE. Yes, Hicks was also to blame, but for Kelly to blame her and ignore his part just shows us again what an asshole he is.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
52. Kelly knows how to wage war though.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:41 PM
Mar 2018

After all, he's a general who made his own way in the military coming up the hard way.

Totally unlike the trust baby Trumps and Kushners. At some point, I'll bet even The Dotard himself will piss on him enough for Kelly to seriously retaliate.

rurallib

(62,451 posts)
55. Another victim believes Trump - I doubt he cares.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:53 PM
Mar 2018

This crap about her being like a daughter is just BS. In a month Trump will deny he even knew her.

So Trump racks up another human being. She was a fool for believing his lies and promises.

She just learned an expensive lesson. He moves on only concerned about his own ass.

Someday I suspect Ivanka will learn that lesson also - Daddy don't care for anyone but daddy.

gibraltar72

(7,512 posts)
56. She knew who they were
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:58 PM
Mar 2018

before she decided to pull the train. She could have bailed at any time. If she didn't know what she was doing she might have wanted to follow Mr Carollo. I have a hard time feeling anything for traitors besides contempt.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
57. She will play damsel in distress card
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:59 PM
Mar 2018

When people feel pity for a "pretty pretty princess" in this case a CRIMiNAL she will either get off or get a much lighter sentence. Count on Ivanka to pull the same trick.

I give Hope enough credit and respect to believe she was well aware of what was going on and believe she has the intelligence to know what her behavior and function in this cabal was contributing.

Unless she has been wearing a wire and flipped months ago I find her a particularly disgusting character in this saga.

calimary

(81,514 posts)
59. "Immense Personal Jeopardy" - what does that even mean?
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:24 PM
Mar 2018

Legal jeopardy? Personal danger? Damsel in distress? Breathless hyperbole?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
70. Legal jeopardy in this case. Prison is possible.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 09:32 PM
Mar 2018

But in any case her legal fees could be enormous. They should run well over a hundred thousand dollars even if she agrees to a quick deal, but she's a major figure and they could run over a million.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
60. Sympathy? Fuck that. She's a co-conspirator
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:54 PM
Mar 2018

Let her pretty face rot in prison with the rest of these treasonous bastards.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
67. Yeah, I'll save my sympathy for
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 08:05 PM
Mar 2018

someone who deserves it.

Like all the victims of the trump tax cuts, so billionaire$ can have a better life.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
68. If she goes to prison and is forever shunned by civil society she will have gotten what she deserves
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 09:19 PM
Mar 2018

Anything less than that and she's getting off easy. I feel zero sympathy for Hope Hicks or any other TRUMP enabler.

RainCaster

(10,923 posts)
71. I feel nothing for her. Just another of 45s "best people" who isn't
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:20 AM
Mar 2018

May she file bankruptcy from all her lawyers fees just like all the others in tRumps cabinet.

betsuni

(25,659 posts)
72. I still insist Hicks and Trump have (or had) a romantic relationship.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 07:12 AM
Mar 2018

Just can't see it any other way. "Immense personal jeopardy" -- how melodramatic, but if she's the person closest to Trump she could be the most dangerous for him. Scary people want Trump to remain in office.

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