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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre we in the midst of a class war?
Or is it already over and the upper class won?
Or is it just hyperbole that is unhealthy for our country to talk about such things as "class warfare"?
If we are in the midst of a class war, should we just surrender or fight back? And how should we fight back? Should we get as many people to vote as possible and change our country from the ballot box?
If you think that is not possible with the Citizens United ruling and the money that is ruling both Parties, what other options do we have?
More people are on food stamps than anytime since the War on Poverty in the 1960's. Much of the middle class is sinking into the bottom class. More and more of the wealth is going to a few at the very top.
If there is a class war going on, who do you think is winning?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)the people still hold the power, if they will stand together in opposition to tyranny.
Next step usually would be a general strike.
Stuart G
(38,445 posts)we have been loosing.
We may do better, now that almost everyone knows it.
eShirl
(18,503 posts)guneydomuz
(16 posts)you best hope that voting will end the war soon too, else the alternative is...well, something that most can't wrap their heads around.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)in more than a century. Our society today is quickly approaching the inequity and meanness of the Gilded Age.
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)They only call it "class warfare" when we fight back.
Income inequality has been moving in favor of the rich since the 80s with a large increase since the Bush years. This trend has not changed recently, and I don't know if it can get any worse. The middle class has only so much money to drain.
Unfortunately, I believe that selfishness is systemic in our society. I have no idea what the solution to that problem may be.
The only things we can do IMHO is to vote out anyone (regardless of party) who puts money and special interests over the American people. And, we should make people aware of the problems and who is responsible. We should support candidates who will have our back on solutions such as overturning Citizens United, changes in the tax code so the rich pay their fair share, and government investment in real job-creation such as infrastructure and new technologies. Job training and education are also ways the government can change the trend of income inequality.
Never stop fighting back! Don't let them make it look like we're just attacking success. Stay optimistic. We are for fairness and justice. The very rich are the only ones who did not suffer during the Great Recession. In fact, they are did quite well from it with record profits.
Without strong voices speaking out to point out the problems while showing exactly how we can solve them, the middle class is doomed. If the middle class is doomed then America is doomed. I refuse to sit back and let that happen.
Thank you for your post and keep fighting the good fight!
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)not quite there yet. Almost, but not quite.
Spike89
(1,569 posts)Technically there has always been warfare between the classes probably going back to the caves. However, it wasn't really a war until the non-privileged classes became educated and gained some resources. That really took off once the US was founded, fueled partly by the populist framework the founders set up.
Anyone thinking the class wars started with Reagan hasn't looked even casually at the history of this nation. The gilded age with the various robber barrons (and later trust-busting efforts) were huge skirmishes. Turn of the 20th century saw massive union battles (literally physical battles) and serious consideration for communism, socialism, and other remedies for the stratified class tensions in America.
The New Deal was as much about class warfare (and avoiding a class revolt) as it was about the economy. The battles have been ongoing and cyclical. The huge advantage the plutocrats have is that their goals are constant and continual. By definition, when your goal is "get more" you never truly get there. Always, the working class/poor/middle class, whatever term(s) you want to use for the 99%, aim for much more modest goals. The 99% doesn't rouse itself until the pain is nearly unbearable and then it demands "enough to stop the pain". Because there are so many of us, we always "win" at that point, but we only win enough to ease the pain of enough of us to deflate the danger to the plutocrats.
In essence, the war has always been with us.