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If you know any cops, have you asked how they feel about arming teachers? (Original Post) grumpyduck Mar 2018 OP
My ultra conservative uncle is a retired cop Tiggeroshii Mar 2018 #1
It varies in my experience DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2018 #2
It's a nightmare for cops. When they go in, how do they know the 30-something male teacher Vinca Mar 2018 #3
That stuff is actually part of the planning process Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #5
I was speaking as a former police officer. Vinca Mar 2018 #7
Most I know are for it as long as its properly implemented Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #4
Husband is retired cop/detective. He thinks the concept is beyond outrageous. In addition, he is cornball 24 Mar 2018 #6
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
1. My ultra conservative uncle is a retired cop
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 05:08 PM
Mar 2018

He is absolutely against it. Of course his reasoning was that "all these liberals are going to lose control of it because they wont know how to use them, and have it used on them." Still it kinda hits the mark. I guess.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,926 posts)
2. It varies in my experience
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 06:20 PM
Mar 2018

Most would prefer full time resource officers instead of armed teachers. But quite a few aren't totally against it provided its voluntary and there is training involved as well as notification to the area agencies. But I live in Michigan, most police here dont have an issue with civilians carrying guns, even the Detroit Police chief advocates it.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
3. It's a nightmare for cops. When they go in, how do they know the 30-something male teacher
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 06:24 PM
Mar 2018

with the gun isn't the bad guy and what if the bad guy puts up his hands and says he's a teacher protecting the students?

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
5. That stuff is actually part of the planning process
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 06:35 PM
Mar 2018

It’s not a new thing, it’s the same issue when LE coordinates with armed security at other places where some are not uniformed. If you have ever been a place where there were private armed security in a corporate setting- and odds are you have been way more often than you think and were just not aware- they have dealt with that issue and found policies and procedures to handle it.

As long as it’s down with everyone on the same page and proper coordination is done that isn’t a big problem. It can still be an issue, but you can mitigate the risk down to an acceptable level.

People saying this is a huge problem have never actually dealt with this kind of planning.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
7. I was speaking as a former police officer.
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 08:39 PM
Mar 2018

I can easily imagine the scenario of a teacher being shot by mistake. When these things happen it's mayhem. Often people respond who are from other areas and wouldn't know a designated gun carrier from Adam. Putting more guns into the situation is not the solution.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
4. Most I know are for it as long as its properly implemented
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 06:32 PM
Mar 2018

Meaning:

Close coordination with the law enforcement agencies of the area so training is in sync with their policies and they have standardized procedures for recognition of who is legitimately armed. No hotdogging it and just allowing anyone to carry.

Proper training to mirror LE training standards, so 40-80 hours of training. With rigerous standards for certification meaning at the end you demonstrate real proficiency and are able to qualify with the firearm, not just you sit in a class and it’s automatically assumed you can do it. In the end that teacher should be every bit as competent as a responding officer or full time SRO would be in use of the firearm.

Yearly mandatory requal and classroom training to update procedures and tactics.

Proper safe storage implemented with biometric locked safes with audible tamper alarms.

cornball 24

(1,480 posts)
6. Husband is retired cop/detective. He thinks the concept is beyond outrageous. In addition, he is
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 07:21 PM
Mar 2018

against the sale of all semi and automatic weapons. He is a strong proponent of universal background checks, age requirement of 21 and does not condone the sale of weapons at gun shows without background checks. He also believes that anyone who buys a weapon for a known felon or a person with mental health issues with a proclivity for violence, and that person uses the weapon to commit a crime, should be liable.

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