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The Intercept: How has Ivanka evaded Mueller? (Original Post) triron Mar 2018 OP
I read this article earlier today and here is my take. dameatball Mar 2018 #1
Correct....she has evaded nothing....it's just a matter of timing. tableturner Mar 2018 #5
I'm not sure if evaded is the right word. n/t Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #2
Ivanka may be the one person Trump won't sacrifice. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #3
But it may be about a different kind of "leverage" hvn_nbr_2 Mar 2018 #11
Agreed. There could be multiple ways to use Ivanka against Trump. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #12
She has not 'evaded' the investigation. SeattleVet Mar 2018 #4
How? It's Mar 2018. Ask us in Mar 2019. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #6
Murdoch connection? Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #7
Maybe Mueller is saving the best for last. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #8
On Joy, I think- dawg day Mar 2018 #13
The food chain is long ... GeorgeGist Mar 2018 #9
My thought is that he has the goods on her.... alittlelark Mar 2018 #10

dameatball

(7,399 posts)
1. I read this article earlier today and here is my take.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 02:00 PM
Mar 2018

I think that Mueller could implicate her any time he wants to. Personally I would rather not have the Trumpists screaming about "poor little Ivanka" just yet. They already have Jared. Where he ends up, she ends up.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
3. Ivanka may be the one person Trump won't sacrifice.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 02:10 PM
Mar 2018

If she's dirty, I would expect Mueller to be lining up everything he can so that she can be used as leverage against Trump.



hvn_nbr_2

(6,488 posts)
11. But it may be about a different kind of "leverage"
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 03:13 PM
Mar 2018

He may be waiting till it's clear that Orange Doofus is getting real close to his psychotic break. Then he starts calling witnesses who have something on Ivanka and maybe even Ivanka herself. That ratchets up the pressure on him till he's right on the verge. Then the indictment sends him over.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
12. Agreed. There could be multiple ways to use Ivanka against Trump.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 03:14 PM
Mar 2018

But I'm sure Ivanka is not avoiding Mueller so much as Mueller has chose to not bring her in

SeattleVet

(5,478 posts)
4. She has not 'evaded' the investigation.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 02:12 PM
Mar 2018

Mueller knows exactly what he is doing, and he is very carefully going up the chain, step by step, and making sure all of the pieces are in place before going forward with the next step.

She is almost certainly on his list, it just isn't her turn (yet) to have a pleasant little sit-down for a revealing chat with his investigators. I think that Jared and Ivanka will most likely be some of the last people to be interviewed, since they are SO close to the final target and know so much about the internal workings of the various crime syndicates (a.k.a. tRump-controlled businesses).

The questions that Mueller's team will be able to ask them will let them know, in no uncertain terms, that he has enough firm evidence to send the whole bunch to prison for a long, long time. It will be up to them to decide how advantageous it would be at any given point in time to turn over everything they know that the old bastard has done and be rid of him in their lives, in exchange for leniency in their own sentences with an aim of possibly getting to see daylight without bars in the way, hopefully sometime before their 3 kids finish graduate school.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Murdoch connection?
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 02:26 PM
Mar 2018

Or is she on the list for the big Finality ? Wendy Deng and China? How about Putin's so called Girl Friend who has been known to hang with Deng and Trump.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
8. Maybe Mueller is saving the best for last.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 02:27 PM
Mar 2018

Ivanka has children to whom she is presumably close. Therefore she will, in the end, have so much at stake. As a wife, she will not have to testify with regard to certain things about her husband, but she would have to testify about her father's dealings and his company's dealings.

Interesting point. I always assumed she was being interviewed too.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
13. On Joy, I think-
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 03:33 PM
Mar 2018

One of the prosecutors said you leave the big targets to the end, and you might not even ever interview them. Interviewing them might tip your hand and prematurely reveal what you've got.

So if she hasn't been interviewed, that might mean she's an actual target.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
10. My thought is that he has the goods on her....
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 02:51 PM
Mar 2018

....He also has the goods on Trump. Mueller will attempt to use her as leverage against tRump - giving him the choice to leave quietly due to 'health reasons' or whatever, and drop the indictments on Ivanka. He is looking at the REALLY big picture and does not want the rabid racist tRump supporters to come out with their 2nd amendments blazing in support of him.

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