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niyad

(113,434 posts)
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:47 PM Mar 2018

melania knew--Charles Blow NYT

Dear America: Come on, you can’t be serious.

The ongoing saga over a president, a porn star and a payoff is so lewd and tawdry that it can’t simply be added to the ever-expanding list of horrible misbehaviors of a womanizing misogynist.

It’s not even the infidelity that most bothers me. I view that as an issue between spouses and with the other person involved. I contend that we on the outside never really know what understandings may exist in a marriage, unless the two parties within reveal it.

In this case, Melania knew exactly the kind of man she was getting.

When Donald first meets Melania, they are at a New York Fashion Week party to which Donald has been invited by the wealthy Italian businessman who brought Melania to America on a modeling contract and work visa. According to GQ, sometimes, to promote his models, the businessman “would send a few girls to an event and invite photographers, producers, and rich playboys.”

. . .

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/opinion/melania-trump-stormy.html

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melania knew--Charles Blow NYT (Original Post) niyad Mar 2018 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Mar 2018 #1
The Meeting Of 2 Birthers Me. Mar 2018 #2
reading the timeline Charles laid out made it even more sordid than I already thought niyad Mar 2018 #3
'handler', or observer...or Putin's bug. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #12
These two people are exactly alike. Anyone thinking jrthin Mar 2018 #5
You Are So Right Me. Mar 2018 #6
To me she will always be the First Ho. arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #17
Agree - no diff between her and a $10 crack Ho...selling their stuff for money. ewweee... iluvtennis Mar 2018 #22
Stay classy. Btw, it is their, not there. Tipperary Mar 2018 #24
thank you for correcting my spelling. I am classy, Melania isn't iluvtennis Mar 2018 #25
Well, thanks for the eye candy PJMcK Mar 2018 #26
Horrible boob job... HipChick Mar 2018 #33
How do you know it is a boob job? Oddly arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #34
Worked in a plastic surgeon office for many years... HipChick Mar 2018 #35
Thank you for telling me that. First time arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #39
GROSS Skittles Mar 2018 #36
I think she looks great in that photo radius777 Mar 2018 #40
And I think this is WAY over the line offensive, and Hortensis Mar 2018 #43
Indeed, and they are getting their US citizenship arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #46
For conservatives it's not hypocrisy when it's Hortensis Mar 2018 #47
there is a naivete to her regarding american politics and history maxsolomon Mar 2018 #4
you are absolutely correct niyad Mar 2018 #7
Billionaire, says Trump! GWC58 Mar 2018 #8
I have a feeling that his adult children will make sure she does not get a penny HipChick Mar 2018 #11
Trump doesn't like them either.. LakeArenal Mar 2018 #20
But if comments as in reply#3 are correct, Melania is there on purpose erronis Mar 2018 #18
Occam's Razor maxsolomon Mar 2018 #21
Of course she knows ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #9
you are quite correct. niyad Mar 2018 #10
Is he describing Melania or... lame54 Mar 2018 #14
"Her marriage is her business" Maeve Mar 2018 #16
That's it - it's Melania's fault lame54 Mar 2018 #13
What else does she know -- wrt to special counsel investigation? n/t Pobeka Mar 2018 #15
I couldn't care less if they were still private citizens... But world wide wally Mar 2018 #19
Nope Cheviteau Mar 2018 #23
and nobody has explained how she finally got that "Einstein" visa. niyad Mar 2018 #42
What's the point of attacking her? njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #27
Nah..she was all and very much a racist Birther.. HipChick Mar 2018 #28
Was she talking birther shit? njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #29
Your right, I forgot about that Fuck her njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #31
Lmao! HipChick Mar 2018 #32
Because she makes it look like one beautiful woman wants him. A total lie. lindysalsagal Mar 2018 #30
first of all, the article is Charles Blow's. second of all, she is a liar, she was illegal, she niyad Mar 2018 #41
She is a mail in bride. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Mar 2018 #38
So did Hillary and Jackie Kennedy. B2G Mar 2018 #44
wow. talk to charles blow if you don't like the article. niyad Mar 2018 #45
To what specific end? LanternWaste Mar 2018 #48

Response to niyad (Original post)

niyad

(113,434 posts)
3. reading the timeline Charles laid out made it even more sordid than I already thought
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:54 PM
Mar 2018

their whole relationship is.

but, if she is, in fact, his handler, as many suspect, none of this is surprising, and she will not leave.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
26. Well, thanks for the eye candy
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:58 PM
Mar 2018

And the link is helpful for a dirty old man like me. (wink)

Melania knew what kind of man Trump was when she married him. She made a deal.

In fact, I don't feel anything about her other than a big... whatever. She's almost irrelevant. I write "almost" because if she's pissed at Trump, that will make his life even more miserable and I can enjoy that. But she's not the entree. That's all Trump.

Trump's profound corruption and criminality is coming to light. Robert Mueller is going to become an incredibly important person in the history of the U.S. If he does his job right, future historians may regard him as a re-Founding Father.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
35. Worked in a plastic surgeon office for many years...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:11 PM
Mar 2018

You can spot them a mile off...Ivanka has had a boob job too, her implants cc's are too big for her rib cage...

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
39. Thank you for telling me that. First time
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:19 PM
Mar 2018

I noticed that and pointed it out to my daughter, I told her damn their boobs are identical, you would think they were related. I wonder if dump paid for both of them with his preferred size stipulated?

radius777

(3,635 posts)
40. I think she looks great in that photo
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:22 PM
Mar 2018

and GQ is a respected magazine, known for their style.

There are many issues with Melania - birtherism, hypocrisy regarding her immigration, hitching herself to a fascist for wealth/power, etc - but her career as a model/pinup is not one of them, IMO.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. And I think this is WAY over the line offensive, and
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 12:26 PM
Mar 2018

extremely sexist. Most men who have choices, and women, give serious priority to income when considering a mate. A hostile mind could choose to believe most men and women prostitute themselves. But I wouldn't.

Of course the life this woman would have with Trump mattered as long as she stayed with him given a reported whopper of a prenup. She was 35 and he still a decent looking 58 or so when they married.

But take a look at this. These are Melania's parents. Note a certain resemblance? Reportedly, her father is a boisterous, rather trumpish man in personality also.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
46. Indeed, and they are getting their US citizenship
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 02:54 PM
Mar 2018

through chained migration (in GOPig terms) the hypocrisy never ends.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. For conservatives it's not hypocrisy when it's
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 03:14 PM
Mar 2018

about them. Most anyway. They just don't have the liberal problem of thinking that what is right for them should be right for everyone. Very much to the contrary, and our inability to understand why that is so is a big part of why they see us as intractably stupid and our preaching insufferably sanctimonious.

Equality? Pffft!

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
4. there is a naivete to her regarding american politics and history
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 01:55 PM
Mar 2018

but also a calculating gold-digger aspect to her regarding marrying a narcissistic billionaire playboy.

she is waiting (and hoping) for him to die. soon. she'll be so happy until the will gets read.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
8. Billionaire, says Trump!
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:22 PM
Mar 2018

I don’t think so! As for the 1st lady, we’ll that goes without saying. No, really. Our First Lady has, still does, style and grace. The 1st lady has none of that. Never had, never will.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
11. I have a feeling that his adult children will make sure she does not get a penny
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:34 PM
Mar 2018

There's no love lost between them..

erronis

(15,306 posts)
18. But if comments as in reply#3 are correct, Melania is there on purpose
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:06 PM
Mar 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210345661#post3

And that totally makes sense. She is a handler. Trained in a former soviet country, probably wired. Somewhat robotic as if waiting for transmissions to complete.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
21. Occam's Razor
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:19 PM
Mar 2018

More likely is that Melania is depressed, filled with regret and resentment. It oozes out of her.

ismnotwasm

(41,995 posts)
9. Of course she knows
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:31 PM
Mar 2018

Charles Blow puts it very well. There is no way she doesn’t understand the kind of man she married. Her marriage is her business. However when she, in a position of power, supports a disgusting bigot, a self-confessed sexual assaulter and a hypocrite who promotes policies that harm everything from girls and women to the entire planet, who she is and what she does becomes my business.

Maeve

(42,283 posts)
16. "Her marriage is her business"
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:47 PM
Mar 2018

I agree with both meanings of that! Sorry, couldn't resist!

Bird in a Gilded Cage--1899--Arthur Lamb

The ballroom was filled with fashion's throng,
It shone with a thousand lights,
And there was a woman who passed along,
The fairest of all the sights,
A girl to her lover then softly sighed,
There's riches at her command;
But she married for wealth, not for love, he cried,
Though she lives in a mansion grand.

CHORUS
She's only a bird in a gilded cage,
A beautiful sight to see,
You may think she's happy and free from care,
She's not, though she seems to be,
'Tis sad when you think of her wasted life,
For youth cannot mate with age,
And her beauty was sold,
For an old man's gold,
She's a bird in a gilded cage.

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
23. Nope
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:31 PM
Mar 2018

She did not come here on a work visa. As a matter-of-fact, she was forbidden to work in this country on the type of visa she was issued.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
28. Nah..she was all and very much a racist Birther..
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:25 PM
Mar 2018

but folks like to try and forget..Nope..not cutting her any slack or break...

lindysalsagal

(20,695 posts)
30. Because she makes it look like one beautiful woman wants him. A total lie.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:27 PM
Mar 2018

She's playing along with a monster who doesn't give a crap about anyone, including her.

niyad

(113,434 posts)
41. first of all, the article is Charles Blow's. second of all, she is a liar, she was illegal, she
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:42 AM
Mar 2018

is a birther. and a plagiarist, and possibly an agent of a foreign government. on what, exactly, should she be cut a break?

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
37. She is a mail in bride.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:12 PM
Mar 2018

White supremacists are notorious for engaging in this practice. For example, William Pierce.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. To what specific end?
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 04:53 PM
Mar 2018

"Leave her alone. Focus on her husband..."

To what specific end?

Last year, you yourself said politics is a dirty game and that rules are for the weak... or was that merely situational ethics wholly dependent on what particular narrative of yours it either reinforces or denies?

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