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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:46 AM Jul 2012

Here's why Romney will NEVER release his tax forms, and why we need to keep hounding him

Here's why Romney will NEVER release his tax forms, and why we need to keep hounding him

by Black Max

Short diary, few links, but deadly serious. No snark. And unfortunately no proof. But I intend to perpetuate this meme as much as possible until Team Romdroid proves it wrong by releasing Romney's tax returns. Which if I'm right, they will never, ever do. And here's why, in my opinion.

You've probably seen this image, or one like it, making the rounds on the Intertoobz:



Clear enough. Mittens is likely guilty of voter fraud, by living in California (or perhaps New Hampshire), owning no property in Massachusetts, yet voting in the 2010 election by claiming he "resided" in his son's unfinished basement. He's denied it, and though I'm not a Massachusetts political junkie and therefore know few details about how he's managed to fend off the charges of voter fraud, he's so far managed to dodge the story almost entirely.

The tax returns, along with showing just how unethically and unpatriotically clever he's been in sheltering his Rmillions from Uncle Sam and the IRS, will also prove that he resided legally in California when he trundled his rich ass back to MA to cast an illegal vote for Scott Brown.

Mittens: one of the very small number of Americans who actually did commit voter fraud. If I'm not mistaken, the form of fraud he committed in Massachusetts is a felony.

Releasing his tax forms would prove he committed felonious voter fraud. That's my thinking.

That's why he won't release them, and that's why we need to keep hounding him about it. We also need to accuse him of voter fraud, using the info above, and keep after him to disprove the allegation by releasing his tax returns.

- more -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/28/1114484/-Here-s-why-Romney-will-NEVER-release-his-tax-forms-and-why-we-need-to-keep-hounding-him


I mean, is that a case of Mitt projecting again:

Civil Rights Group Calls For Probe Of Romney’s ‘Interference’ With VA Voter Registration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021032485

Let me add to the speculation, this time with more evidence. Where did Mitt live from 1999 to 2002: Utah or Massachussett?

<...>

As the AP reported in June 2002:

Mitt Romney the former Salt Lake City Olympics chief now running for Massachusetts governor paid property taxes on a Utah home as his "primary residence" between 1999 and 2001 and received a $54,600 tax discount as a result.

The distinction which Utah officials said was made in error fueled the debate about whether Romney meets Massachusetts' residential requirements to be governor. The state Constitution requires a candidate to live in Massachusetts for seven years prior to election.

And as the Boston Globe explained that same month:

At the center of the case were Massachusetts tax returns Romney filed while in Utah. Romney filed in 1999 as a part-year Massachusetts resident and in 2000 as a nonresident.

Romney changed those returns to Massachusetts resident in April, after deciding to run for governor, saying his longtime tax advisers at Pricewaterhouse Coopers had made a mistake.

- more -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/12/1109157/-Why-Romney-flip-flopped-on-Bain-departure-date


Mitt Romney said that he had no recollection of returning to Massachusetts for business meetings in 2002 following his departure from Bain Capital to head the Olympics in Salt Lake City.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002945250

Mitt Romney told CBS News‘s Jan Crawford Friday evening that he did not attend Bain Capital meetings after he left the company in February of 1999 to run the Winter Olympics. But this answer appears to contradict sworn testimony he delivered in 2002 “as part of a hearing to determine whether he had sufficient residency status in Massachusetts to run for governor”:

– 2002: “(T)here were a number of social trips and business trips that brought me back to Massachusetts, board meetings, Thanksgiving and so forth.”

– 2012: “I was in Salt Lake City for three straight years. I don’t recall even coming back once to go to a Bain or management meeting. We were, I was out there running the Olympics and it was a full time job, I can tell you that.”
- more -

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/13/516951/romney-interview-directly-contradicts-his-previous-statements-about-bain-tenure

On edit, to be clear, Mitt maybe hiding other damaging information:

Experts’ Best Guesses On Romney’s Swiss Bank Account
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021011251

Clear it all up, Mitt. Release your tax returns.


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Here's why Romney will NEVER release his tax forms, and why we need to keep hounding him (Original Post) ProSense Jul 2012 OP
k&r... spanone Jul 2012 #1
Or perhaps... Not Me Jul 2012 #2
Ooh, nice! ProSense Jul 2012 #3
I think it's more likely that he paid more to the church than to the IRS Blue Meany Jul 2012 #4
Mitt: The only documented case of voter fraud in 2010! sofa king Jul 2012 #5
DUzy candidate! rocktivity Jul 2012 #7
That was libodem Jul 2012 #13
Romney is in a pickle JayMagoo Jul 2012 #6
a phenominal 1st post! let me be the first to welcome you to DU! stlsaxman Jul 2012 #25
Spot on! KansDem Jul 2012 #26
excellent post and exactly right. 2009 is the key year. magical thyme Jul 2012 #28
Welcome JayMagoo! annabanana Jul 2012 #29
+1,000 n/t malaise Jul 2012 #31
I would like to see this investigated riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #8
Another K&R gollygee Jul 2012 #9
Kick! My bet is still on Mittwitt's offshore accounts involved with the IRS Tax Amnesty Program. Segami Jul 2012 #10
Why is it the only cases of Voter Fraud I'm aware of involve REPUBLICANS!! LynneSin Jul 2012 #11
I also wonder if he really hasn't been paying his church 10% savalez Jul 2012 #12
I'm sure it's that and a gazillion other "but it's legal" reasons. nt valerief Jul 2012 #14
ProSense.. kentuck Jul 2012 #15
Thanks. Here is ProSense Jul 2012 #18
From The Peoples Boycott website kentuck Jul 2012 #22
Mitt has told so many lies that no one will ever Pakid Jul 2012 #16
Yup, tangled web. n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #19
so instead of asking him about taxes all the time greymattermom Jul 2012 #17
or we could ask him how he liked living in his mom's basement magical thyme Jul 2012 #30
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2012 #20
http://www.barackobama.com/ Amonester Jul 2012 #21
Believe this... DAMANgoldberg Jul 2012 #27
WoW! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #23
He needs to be arrested!! B Calm Jul 2012 #24
Kick! n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #32

Not Me

(3,398 posts)
2. Or perhaps...
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:50 AM
Jul 2012

He uderstated his income to his Church. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints expects (requires) a 10% tithe.
If Mitt was telling them that he made, say $20Mil, and wrote a $2Mil check to them...WHEN REALLY he was making 100Mil a year, oh, what a shitstorm that would be.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
4. I think it's more likely that he paid more to the church than to the IRS
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:00 AM
Jul 2012

and that this would provide a clue to sheltered income that is, in fact, not reported on his taxes.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
5. Mitt: The only documented case of voter fraud in 2010!
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jul 2012

Mitt's going to have to stay overseas for awhile, because he's too ironic to pass through a metal detector.

JayMagoo

(1 post)
6. Romney is in a pickle
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

From the evidence it looks like Romney accepted the general IRS amnesty in 2009 and in exchange for admitting he tried to defraud the IRS, was forgiven. However, that requirement that he admit fraud was put there for a reason, so that tax-cheats like Romney wouldn't be able to go Scott-free and they'd have that admission of fraud with them. We are seeing that admission of fraud doing exactly what it was intended to do -- hold Romney accountable for fraud, if he indeed did commit fraud.

So that leaves Romney with the problem of wanting to be president, yet having the admission of Fraud on his IRS record. He's trying to depend on the liars of Fox News and the Republican Tea Party nuts to make enough noise so the Democrats will just forget the whole thing.

I for one cannot and will not forget. Romney has too sleazy a background to forgive him something like Tax Fraud. His activities with Bain where he put thousands of workers out of their jobs and in some cases confiscated their pensions to put into his own bank account are a show-stopper for me.

I am amazed at his arrogance, knowing this stuff is in his background, yet still trying to push his way into the White House. The clown thinks Americans will forgive his sleazy, lying, money-grubbing activities. I won't, and I'm willing to bet I have lots of company.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
28. excellent post and exactly right. 2009 is the key year.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:38 AM
Jul 2012

He could easily have released 7 years of returns, back to 2003, and then claimed that Obama wasn't going to be satisfied with anything with some legitimacy.

It's not by chance that he won't release anything before 2010. Because 2009 proves he is a tax cheat and attempted to defraud the US from owed taxes.

And welcome to DU!

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
29. Welcome JayMagoo!
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:39 AM
Jul 2012

With your permission, I would like to make this post an "OP" in GD.. (Give it a thread of it's own). I see you've been a member since '09. You must feel very strongly about this for this to be your maiden post.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
9. Another K&R
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jul 2012

I bet there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in them. I hadn't heard the voter fraud thing but that needs to be made much more public.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
10. Kick! My bet is still on Mittwitt's offshore accounts involved with the IRS Tax Amnesty Program.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jul 2012



savalez

(3,517 posts)
12. I also wonder if he really hasn't been paying his church 10%
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jul 2012

and he doesn't want them to find out. Apparently Mormon's must give 10% of their earnings to the Mormon church. Since he can't seem to tell the truth about anything he's probably lying about that too.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. Thanks. Here is
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jul 2012

another, though from a past disclosure statement:

Romney's Iranian Oil Investments Loom During Visit To Israel
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/28/1113838/-Romney-s-Iranian-Oil-Investments-Loom-During-Visit-To-Israel

How things like this escape media attention is puzzling (not really).

Pakid

(478 posts)
16. Mitt has told so many lies that no one will ever
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jul 2012

be able to get at the truth and this is the best the GOP has to offer. What an insult they and Mitt are to America

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
17. so instead of asking him about taxes all the time
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jul 2012

we should ask him how he liked living in his son's basement...

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
30. or we could ask him how he liked living in his mom's basement
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:41 AM
Jul 2012

and see if we could trick Mr. Knowitall into correcting us!

I bet it would work!

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
21. http://www.barackobama.com/
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:04 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.barackobama.com/

'Contact us' link at the bottom of that page.

Also, tell them to keep it for October (as a surprise LOL).

Rec. & bookmarked.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
27. Believe this...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:25 AM
Jul 2012

If these allegations are true and he is still in the race then, this team will drop that bomb on him and it will be over. This campaign is playing to WIN the game! What happens in the dark comes out in the light, and it work both ways, so if not for the need of the corporate punditry to have something to say, this should be a no-contest election with a Democratic majority sweep.

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