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KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:27 AM Mar 2018

Our Revolution to protest Hillary Clinton at Rutgers

https://go.ourrevolution.com/page/event/detail/rally/4jvkvCached

Protest Hillary @ Rutgers
Hillary Clinton is being paid $25k for a 1.5 hour talk at Rutgers. Maybe she makes so much money that she doesn't realize that money in politics harms middle- and lower-class citizens. She is out of touch. We will hold up signs and have some chants during her talk. Contact us on FB at Our Revolution, Hazlet, to sign up or RSVP.



This is outrageous! It cannot be clearer that Nina Turner and Our Revolution are the enemy, and should be treated as such. When they would protest a private citizen instead of the fascist we have in the White House or the spineless, craven GOP cowards in Congress, they are part of the problem.
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Our Revolution to protest Hillary Clinton at Rutgers (Original Post) KitSileya Mar 2018 OP
last time I checked hillary was out of politics candidate-wise nt msongs Mar 2018 #1
Exactly. KitSileya Mar 2018 #9
Both the event and this posting seem like set ups. DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #56
The OP is reporting this political news.. Cha Mar 2018 #60
Yeah, I read about that Tapper "fair and balanced" Cha Mar 2018 #61
+1 dalton99a Mar 2018 #19
Anyone can "flag this event if inappropriate." So I did, and told them why. pnwmom Mar 2018 #45
Quick question gratuitous Mar 2018 #2
Excellent point. I wish all schools would follow what the president of U of Chicago question everything Mar 2018 #17
This group ALREADY got what they wanted, Hillary defeat. poboy2 Mar 2018 #141
You summed it up perfectly poboy. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #254
these people voted for Trump over Hillary JI7 Mar 2018 #3
And encouraged others to vote the same way. Ninsianna Mar 2018 #57
Undoubtedly. nt Maven Mar 2018 #100
And you know that how? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #147
I knew a former DUer that voted for Trump Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #180
So n equals 1? That's a pretty poor sample size to use against an entire group. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #181
That's not really the problem with them Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #183
They are a group that does a specific thing. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #184
Sure HRC had some responsibility for her loss. There was that one time she parted her hair wrong. Lil Missy Mar 2018 #247
Of course you're right. Let's just run the exact same campaign in 2020 Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #249
I'd vote for her Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #253
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Mar 2018 #187
LOLOL Skittles Mar 2018 #245
Of course not. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #255
Who would be dumb enough to waste time protesting Hillary Clinton? betsuni Mar 2018 #4
Seriously! Now that Hillary is out of politics, what's the point?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #8
To be fair, I also thought it pretty dumb to get all upset about Hillary's Wall St. speeches betsuni Mar 2018 #14
And, didn't she only make one of those? GoCubsGo Mar 2018 #114
Sounds like a troll operation Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #15
Yes, I agree. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #20
Then the Our Revolution folks need to end it SHRED Mar 2018 #21
Yes. CentralMass Mar 2018 #33
They did. progressoid Mar 2018 #219
Good SHRED Mar 2018 #231
Actually they rescheduled it as a non-Our Revolution event. Same date, same time. George II Mar 2018 #234
One doesn't have to wonder. One just has to read and comprehend. progressoid Mar 2018 #239
Did they say that before or after this brouhaha? Or (off topic) before or after... George II Mar 2018 #240
Which is true of any highly motivated activist movement. progressoid Mar 2018 #242
It's on the Our Revolution, Hazlet FB page. KitSileya Mar 2018 #24
There you go trying to destroy our coming elections with this shit... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #79
Nina Turner IS the Troll . JI7 Mar 2018 #25
Four words GWC58 Mar 2018 #80
She's just as bad as Sarandon. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #126
"She's just as bad as Sarandon" ... that was six words, Jackie! marble falls Mar 2018 #204
I was never very good at math! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2018 #207
How in the world did this OP not get hidden? marble falls Mar 2018 #208
I'm almost certain that it wasn't due to a lack of trying. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #211
Yeah, I can not even watch one of my GWC58 Mar 2018 #216
I agree with you that it is a troll operation. TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #32
That's why I "flagged it as inappropriate" -- which was easy to do. pnwmom Mar 2018 #46
I did as well. n/t femmedem Mar 2018 #90
THis was the excuse for Bern the Witch & Berning Misissippi obamanut2012 Mar 2018 #67
Ive thought that about Our Revolution from day one. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #74
I have called them out many times...they support Republicans. They are a bad group and should not Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #82
Thank you. I was just about to post the same thing. n/t femmedem Mar 2018 #87
It's why we can't have nice things on the internet. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #203
This event is not being denounced or called out by OR national, is it? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #111
If it was a "troll operation" why would OR facebook page leave it up? ehrnst Mar 2018 #130
See my post #145, the OP link is from Our Revolution in Washington DC. George II Mar 2018 #152
Go to the link in the OP. You'll find this at the bottom of the page: George II Mar 2018 #145
This is why the Republicans love them and pay R B Garr Mar 2018 #149
Our Revolution attacked a Democratic candidate in my district Gothmog Mar 2018 #165
K & R They had/have one agenda & it wasn't the lie of free stuff. Wwcd Mar 2018 #198
Agreed Gothmog Mar 2018 #200
As always the point is to be utterly obnoxious Cary Mar 2018 #131
If they were really that worried about harm coming to middle- and working-class communities, Aristus Mar 2018 #5
Yes, would also be nice if Hillary donated the 25 grand to a Rutgers scholarship fund... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #11
I lived next door to a major university for almost 40 years. Speakers & performers get paid... Hekate Mar 2018 #36
Of course speakers get paid... not suggesting otherwise. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #117
Michael Moore got $30-40,000 in 2005 KitSileya Mar 2018 #41
exactly , it's sexism JI7 Mar 2018 #54
No one is demanding anything... just suggesting that it would be a nice gesture InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #119
Why? betsuni Mar 2018 #124
Why not? Said why, though either way is really fine... no pressure. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #137
But it's not like Hillary is Imelda Marcos with closets full of shoes and clothes, obviously betsuni Mar 2018 #146
I know, right? Aristus Mar 2018 #150
Who said Hillary shouldn't be paid for giving a speech? Missed that one. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #218
How much have you contributed to Rutgers as a nice gesture? brooklynite Mar 2018 #176
LOL, can't argue with that logic! OBVIOUSLY, Hillary gives contributions as she sees fit... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #220
You, however, seem to be the only person questioning her choice. brooklynite Mar 2018 #235
Why do you insist on puttin words in my mouth? When did I question Hillary's choice? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #246
You're so funny! blue cat Mar 2018 #251
She is being paid thru an Endowment. Nina is a Fellow on the Sanders Institute. Wwcd Mar 2018 #144
So why the protest if no one is demaanding anything? Wwcd Mar 2018 #155
+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #132
$25k isn't going to do a damn thing to "abate high tuition costs" jmowreader Mar 2018 #49
The speakers fee is paid from a special endowment fund lapucelle Mar 2018 #66
Hillary is a private citizen and has a right to be paid obamanut2012 Mar 2018 #68
LOL, would say the same thing if Biden were speaking for $25k... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #109
That was always a contrived argument. Public figures R B Garr Mar 2018 #151
I'm going to assume that you also spoke out that bernie should donate his money all american girl Mar 2018 #173
Have other speakers at Rutgers done so with their professorship fee? Why is this now suddenly ehrnst Mar 2018 #174
It would also have been a nice gesture for ehrnst Mar 2018 #97
Yes, I agree. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #110
You mean like Michael Moore getting $40,000 for speaking at universities didn't? ehrnst Mar 2018 #99
Oh fuck right off with that. Maven Mar 2018 #102
Thank you. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #113
Why so rude?! Nobody said Hillary can't do what she wants with her own money... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #116
News flash: google the Clinton Foundation activities. Check out what they do. nt Hekate Mar 2018 #210
Politicians can't legally get speaker fees, going back to 1991. ehrnst Mar 2018 #118
Someone should tell his booking agent that. Maven Mar 2018 #122
+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #125
Do you know that she won't? She's contributed hundred of thousands, maybe millions... George II Mar 2018 #143
Obviously dont know, but it wud be great...the Clinton Foundation donations are too. Very generous. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #260
She should keep it and should be paid more. Maybe you should make a contribution. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2018 #258
That's fine too. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #259
Like Hillary hurts middle class people...The GOP and Trump will have a field day with this. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #83
The people in the middle who don't see her as a role model is who it hurts nolabels Mar 2018 #148
She is a private citizen and has every right to make a paid speech. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #157
I am glad it is only about us and them nolabels Mar 2018 #244
I have no idea what you mean...or how this relates to a private citizen giving a paid speech... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #248
I have yet to see OR do anything positive in support of comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #6
A good reminder. This group evolved from Sanders' campaign. They spend their energy and... brush Mar 2018 #7
Too true, comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #26
Nina was appointed by Jane Sanders as a Fellow to the Sanders Institute. Wwcd Mar 2018 #171
Yes, OR's agenda is a mystery to me since they don't comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #192
Appears THAT has always been their agenda . Wwcd Mar 2018 #194
They should protest those who don't disclose their tax returns. nt fleabiscuit Mar 2018 #10
maybe they don't want to know JI7 Mar 2018 #12
I wouldn't call them inquiring minds. nt fleabiscuit Mar 2018 #13
Right.. their FULL tax returns.. You win Cha Mar 2018 #16
Hola Cha! fleabiscuit Mar 2018 #23
Como estas, flea? Cha Mar 2018 #30
Big K & R to you Cha ☺ Wwcd Mar 2018 #197
Yep, there's a reason trump would Cha Mar 2018 #225
+1 dalton99a Mar 2018 #18
+1 Maven Mar 2018 #106
Winner-winner-chicken-dinner!! THIS!! NurseJackie Mar 2018 #123
Perfect! sheshe2 Mar 2018 #170
Yes they should start the cleansing with thier own lunasun Mar 2018 #127
Looks like Our Revolution is letting this stand SHRED Mar 2018 #22
Exactly what Democrats DO NOT NEED right now. CousinIT Mar 2018 #27
This is really stupid, she's a private citizen. herding cats Mar 2018 #28
There is always a few loose screws with every movement PaulX2 Mar 2018 #29
How can you be so sure about that? KitSileya Mar 2018 #35
So you're blaming it on "a few loose screws"? How Cha Mar 2018 #43
That's funny. When I think of "loose screws", Nina Turner immediately comes to mind. nt Tarheel_Dem Mar 2018 #48
Word. She just as well said she didn't vote for Hillary in the GE. Cha Mar 2018 #58
Ya got that right. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2018 #59
JUst stop -- of course she is obamanut2012 Mar 2018 #69
If our revolution has it on their website...than they endorse it. And Nina Turner hates Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #84
More than likely, Nina Turner gave them the green light to protest. oasis Mar 2018 #209
If it comes out of the Student Activity Fees, it would pretty much wipe out most of it. TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #31
Well, it's a popular event (the HRC one, that is) KitSileya Mar 2018 #34
This would not come out of student activity fees. Rutgers would have a special department... Hekate Mar 2018 #39
As per the event information, the fee lapucelle Mar 2018 #70
Thanks for that link, lapucelle. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #172
Not true lunasun Mar 2018 #129
I hate this shit Hamlette Mar 2018 #37
As far as I am concerned "our revolution" gang has no desire to work within the Democratic party still_one Mar 2018 #38
Quite a stupid move. CentralMass Mar 2018 #40
It is outrageous. They might as well be chanting "Lock her up" dalton99a Mar 2018 #42
Funny thing about that DFW Mar 2018 #53
They probably will. I wonder how many Russians they will have the rally. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #86
This is despicable blue-wave Mar 2018 #44
I feel they are well intentioned but, denvine Mar 2018 #47
No. Russian bots don't have intentions. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #63
They are not well intentioned and we know it...time to make this group's endorsement a Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #88
They want liberal progressive politicians in office. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #185
They don't want that...they want to destroy the Democratic Party and I am against anyone in a Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #196
They don't want the Democratic Party to move to the middle. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #199
Problem is, they aren't even actual Progressives. Wwcd Mar 2018 #202
It is way beyond that. And since Our Revolution supported Mello who was right of center in Nebraska, Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #237
In my other post, I mentioned Mello...he is not the only one...and they risk a Senate seat Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #238
Putin is NOT well intentioned, and Putin funds this group. yardwork Mar 2018 #92
They are not well intentioned and in actuality support Trump not Democrats. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #158
Well intentioned my ass, Just leave this woman alone for fucks sake....... Old Vet Mar 2018 #205
Propaganda Lil Missy Mar 2018 #50
It is on their website as an event. I checked. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #89
I just noticed it was cancelled. Christ, they need to get OVER the primaries already. Lil Missy Mar 2018 #222
I agree. I hear that this OR person will still organize a protest ...just not an OR protest. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #236
Unfuckingbelievable. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #51
So 2016 isn't finished yet? tirebiter Mar 2018 #52
No it is not. This group and all of the leaders/members are vengeful, spiteful and would Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #91
Let's be real - these clowns are secretly rooting for Trump. John Fante Mar 2018 #55
+1 apcalc Mar 2018 #206
i wouldn't worry too much about this. it will probably be similar to the protest during her book JI7 Mar 2018 #62
This is an our revolution event...they will make sure it is more than this. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #93
I will forever be ashamed I was apart of that crap vercetti2021 Mar 2018 #64
Shades of Westboro Baptist. ucrdem Mar 2018 #65
LOL Scurrilous Mar 2018 #71
Deplorable. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #72
Nina... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #73
WTF is wrong with these people? TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #75
A retired, out of power one too. Its got to be some type of operation to lead the usefully idiotic poboy2 Mar 2018 #107
I consider this group the same as Greens...I won't vote for any of their candidates in a general or Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #76
Correction. TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #81
I know which should mean that he has no chance of running in a Democratic Primary in 20. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #94
That makes me so angry. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #164
Sanders and his wife CREATED "Our Revolution" George II Mar 2018 #186
Yep...which is why I won't be on FB for the 'town hall'. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #195
Fuck these assholes. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2018 #77
Glad they've got their priorities in order. Dorian Gray Mar 2018 #78
I get emails from Our Revolution. They often mention that Bernie Sanders founded them. yardwork Mar 2018 #85
He went to their rally in Texas. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #95
I just saw that upthread - Sanders spoke at two rallies sponsored by OR. yardwork Mar 2018 #96
What does HRC speaking at Rutgers has to do with "money in politics" ehrnst Mar 2018 #98
Good Questions.. "our revolution" needs to Cha Mar 2018 #105
Not their strong suit. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #108
Absolutely nothing. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #175
Or protest Bill Kristol speaking last February? ehrnst Mar 2018 #182
they are mad cuz shes getting paid for a speech? what a bunch of whiny cry babies... samnsara Mar 2018 #101
They are politically irrelevant and cant get anyone elected to any office that matters Maven Mar 2018 #103
Is it true that nearly all their "preferred" or "endorsed" candidates actually LOSE their election? NurseJackie Mar 2018 #128
The only ones who win are those they endorse so they can jump on the bandwagon and Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #160
I hate these assholes as much as republicans! workinclasszero Mar 2018 #104
Who cares bpj62 Mar 2018 #112
Most e-mails I get from OR ask for $$$$ DinahMoeHum Mar 2018 #115
Wait but I thought they don't want $$$$ involved in any politics lunasun Mar 2018 #134
any idea what kind of track record their endorsed candidates have? crazycatlady Mar 2018 #135
Here: sheshe2 Mar 2018 #179
Why stalk a private citizen? Hillary DESERVES every fucking dollar they're willing to part with!! NurseJackie Mar 2018 #120
Hey Bernie and Bernie Bros . . . . . Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #121
+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #133
Every true Democrat needs to ignore Our Revolution. They are no different than Republicans. LonePirate Mar 2018 #136
Wow, this is stupid.... vi5 Mar 2018 #138
I am one who thinks most of what you wrote is untrue and is again saddened by seeing how well Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #163
Very impressive left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #139
She showed us her taxes. Where are his taxes. R B Garr Mar 2018 #156
Love how you misinterpret my comment ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #168
Your snark about her wasnt misinterpreted. Years of that R B Garr Mar 2018 #213
That's OK left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #215
Were you not referencing Clintons speech? R B Garr Mar 2018 #217
Give it up, and move on left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #223
So breaking down the speech fee into minute R B Garr Mar 2018 #228
Placing you on ignore left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #224
Thats hilarious! R B Garr Mar 2018 #227
So? Cha Mar 2018 #226
Hillary speaks ! left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #241
Yes it is. Actually it's $277.77 per minute. George II Mar 2018 #230
Hillary Clinton Speech at Rutgers Sold Out, Moved to Larger Venue" From a crowd of 2000 to 8000. Wwcd Mar 2018 #140
Marginal Political Group Marginalized Again. MineralMan Mar 2018 #142
Jeezus! Leave the woman alone! Eyeball_Kid Mar 2018 #153
I've been sick MuseRider Mar 2018 #154
It's not about what Hillary can tolerate it's about OR assholes doing what OR assholes do. n/t seaglass Mar 2018 #243
WTF is wrong with these counter productive idiots? we can do it Mar 2018 #159
Is Anyone Really Surprised? peggysue2 Mar 2018 #161
This is INANE and INSANE! R B Garr Mar 2018 #162
I think Our Revolution is a KGB operation . stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #166
Has OR ever criticized a Republican? comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #201
Not helpful at all mcar Mar 2018 #167
Same as Jill Stein, if you ask me. Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #169
Seriously?! Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #177
Did they protest Bill Kristol in February? ehrnst Mar 2018 #178
Hillary is still used by Trump as a Democratic ogre, Progressive dog Mar 2018 #188
Dick move ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #189
As of early this morning, the protest has been CANCELLED!! George II Mar 2018 #190
Just read that! ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #191
I just added a screen shot of the twitter message. It has been rescheduled as a "private event".... George II Mar 2018 #193
About bleedin' time! KitSileya Mar 2018 #212
But it looks like they rescheduled it under a different group name. Same people, different name. George II Mar 2018 #214
Of course they did. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #221
Which indicates to us that Our Revolution are not our friends. George II Mar 2018 #229
I just saw that on Ragnarok's twitter Cha Mar 2018 #233
Trump on Twitter: "I LIVE IN NEW JERSEY" ucrdem Mar 2018 #232
These losers are obsessed w/Hillary and her money. radius777 Mar 2018 #250
These idiots should be protesting Trump. Beacool Mar 2018 #252
Why is that shit even posted here? Lil Missy Mar 2018 #256
Because some on DU claim that Our Revolution is on our side. KitSileya Mar 2018 #257

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
9. Exactly.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:46 AM
Mar 2018

Not to mention, according to a comment I read (so it's unverified), Nina Turner gets $6-8,000 for appearances on television panels such as with Jake Tapper. These panels usually last 1/2 hours

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
56. Both the event and this posting seem like set ups.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:30 AM
Mar 2018

Sorry, editors for speaking my mind!

Let's stay unified. If I could get $25,000 for a soeaking engagement from Rutgers I'd take it. I don't blame Hillary in the least. They've already screwed this and hundreds of other adjunct profs out of fair wages. Some of us have been treated – literally – to slave wages. Get your intellect honored, Hillary!

Cha

(297,306 posts)
60. The OP is reporting this political news..
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:57 AM
Mar 2018

This is a political discussion board. We're not going to sweep it under the rug because you don't approve.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Quick question
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:30 AM
Mar 2018

Will this lead to a whole bunch of tut-tutting newspaper columns and teevee spots about oversensitive college students demanding their safe spaces and not understanding the First Amendment?

Of course not, and we all know why.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
17. Excellent point. I wish all schools would follow what the president of U of Chicago
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:02 AM
Mar 2018

did last year - announced that it was a place of learning, where students were expected to be exposed to all ideas.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
141. This group ALREADY got what they wanted, Hillary defeat.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:19 AM
Mar 2018

This is like beating a dead horse. Hillary is not president. Hillary is old. Hillary is powerless and will not be running again.
WTF is the point?

Protest the fascists who are have penetrated the halls of government.

So idiotic. But the conflict seeking press have been prepped to got with the well worn bogus storyline.


I'm a Bernie guy, but this Our Revolution needs to get its priorities straight.
Fascists are in the WH!

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
147. And you know that how?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:39 AM
Mar 2018

They support candidates that are progressive liberals. You really think they thought Trump was that more than Clinton?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
180. I knew a former DUer that voted for Trump
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:01 PM
Mar 2018

some probably voted for him just out of spite- because of their hatred of Hillary or anger that Bernie didn't win the primary (and he didn't win because he didn't get enough primary votes, period). Those whom voted for Stein or Johnson (or just didn't vote at all) are equally culpable for Hillary's EC loss/Trump's EC win IMHO.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
181. So n equals 1? That's a pretty poor sample size to use against an entire group.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:05 PM
Mar 2018

This is a group that wants progressives in office. Not Trumps.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
183. That's not really the problem with them
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:11 PM
Mar 2018

The problem IMHO is that they demand ideological purity and spend the majority of their time trying to attack Democrats that feel don't pass their purity tests, which harms the party, instead of actively fighting Trump/GOP. Does OR protesting a paid speech by Hillary, currently a Democratic non-candidate for anything, at Rutgers University, seem like a good use of time, energy, or resources? Instead of, say, protesting Trump's ongoing graft and corruption and dangerous foreign policy, and/or attempts to subvert the rule of law?

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
184. They are a group that does a specific thing.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:14 PM
Mar 2018

There are other groups that do other things.

There is all kinds of purity tests on DU. Do you have a problem with those here that don't like anyone to say that Clinton had some responsibility for her loss?

As to whether this protest is a good use of their time, sure. I think the amount of money that politicians and those in power get paid by non-governmental entities is a problem. Don't you? I mean, sure, Trump's a problem but one group can't do everything. I really support the FFRF. They aren't taking on Trump's graft and corruption either. Doesn't mean the work they do for separation of church and state isn't good work.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
249. Of course you're right. Let's just run the exact same campaign in 2020
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:13 AM
Mar 2018

Surely nothing could go wrong since she was perfect in what she did.

for the impaired.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
253. I'd vote for her
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 12:54 AM
Mar 2018

I would never dare to ask her to go through such a shitstorm again, but if she did, I'd vote for Hillary again. She wouldn't even have to campaign to get my vote; just announce.

Maybe this time around some people might not be as susceptible to Russian manipulation and Facebook manipulation and Twitter manipulation and news media false equivalencies and maybe the FBI director wouldn't jump out just ahead of election day to cast doubt and maybe there wouldn't be as many legitimate voters turned away by cheaters and maybe there wouldn't be so many election irregularities and maybe there wouldn't be quite as much (illegal) foreign money used in campaigns on the other side and maybe there wouldn't be as many people fooled by a Russian-backed 3rd party loon.

But you go ahead and blame Hillary's imperfections for the results of last time.

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #147)

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
4. Who would be dumb enough to waste time protesting Hillary Clinton?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:33 AM
Mar 2018

Wait, I'm not sure I want to know.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
14. To be fair, I also thought it pretty dumb to get all upset about Hillary's Wall St. speeches
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:54 AM
Mar 2018

since she donated the money to the Clinton Foundation.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
15. Sounds like a troll operation
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:55 AM
Mar 2018
Events are created by local grassroots organizers and are not necessarily endorsed by Our Revolution National. Flag Event as Inappropriate



Anyone can create an event. It's a quick and easy way to get other people involved in the things you care about. To get started, just fill out the form.



George II

(67,782 posts)
234. Actually they rescheduled it as a non-Our Revolution event. Same date, same time.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:12 PM
Mar 2018

So one has to wonder just who "Our Revolution" really is.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
239. One doesn't have to wonder. One just has to read and comprehend.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:39 PM
Mar 2018
“Events are created by local grass-roots organizers and are not necessarily endorsed by Our Revolution National."

George II

(67,782 posts)
240. Did they say that before or after this brouhaha? Or (off topic) before or after...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:45 PM
Mar 2018

...the Texas 22nd Congressional District brouhaha (against Sri Kulkarni).

They've got a bunch of zealots that they have to get under control, for their own benefit.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
242. Which is true of any highly motivated activist movement.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:20 PM
Mar 2018

You see "zealots" all the time in grass roots groups. There were some outliers in the Women's march. There will likely be outliers in the March for our Lives movement. It's gonna happen. Damning an entire movement because of a few loons is idiotic.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
24. It's on the Our Revolution, Hazlet FB page.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:13 AM
Mar 2018

Even if it turns out it is just a local chapter organizing this, it is very emblematic, don't you think? Anyone can create an event, but the event must be approved by the organization before it is posted.


https://mobile.twitter.com/Alex__Katz/status/975540767207772160

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
79. There you go trying to destroy our coming elections with this shit...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:58 AM
Mar 2018

I have suspected that Nina Turner (whom I voted for in Ohio...wish I could take it back) wants Democrats to lose.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
46. That's why I "flagged it as inappropriate" -- which was easy to do.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:20 AM
Mar 2018

If enough of us do that, maybe it will be removed.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
67. THis was the excuse for Bern the Witch & Berning Misissippi
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:06 AM
Mar 2018

"It was a volunteer." An OFFICIAL volunteer for the official SuperPac.

Bernie, Turner, etal have to start OWNING this garbage.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
82. I have called them out many times...they support Republicans. They are a bad group and should not
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:00 AM
Mar 2018

be given any support.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
203. It's why we can't have nice things on the internet.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:20 PM
Mar 2018

Like the White House petition page thingy.

Started with good intent. Used by trolls to stir shit.

It's been removed from the site. Somehow I didn't think that will be good enough...

George II

(67,782 posts)
145. Go to the link in the OP. You'll find this at the bottom of the page:
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:36 AM
Mar 2018
OUR REVOLUTION
PO BOX 66208
WASHINGTON,DC 20035

PAID FOR BY OUR REVOLUTION

NOT AUTHORIZED BY ANY CANDIDATE OR CANDIDATE COMMITTEE.

OUR REVOLUTION IS A 501(C)(4)ORGANIZATION.CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR REVOLUTION ARE NOT DEDUCTIBLE AS CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR FEDERAL INCOME TAX PURPOSES.
©OUR REVOLUTION|PRIVACY POLICY


Looks like Our Revolution National to me.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
149. This is why the Republicans love them and pay
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:52 AM
Mar 2018

the Greens to disrupt. They do their nasty work against Democrats and not the GOP. I am so sick and disgusted with them using California as a guinea pig while Vermont gets a pass. They are nasty AF.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
165. Our Revolution attacked a Democratic candidate in my district
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:26 AM
Mar 2018

The local Our Revolution endorsed one candidate and then attacked the candidate who had raised the most money in a pretty sad and sick manner http://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/texas-congressional-candidate-sri-kulkarni-acknowledges-teen-drug-arrest-youthful/article_54a39be6-1e55-11e8-8db1-6f520552146f.html

Kulkarni disclosed the arrest after the case was raised by the Fort Bend County Chapter leader of Our Revolution, according to the Chronicle.

Doug Beaton, the leader of the chapter, warned Fort Bend County Democratic officials on Kulkarni's previously undisclosed past in a letter posted on social media, it said.

The letter suggested that Kulkarni, whose full first name is Srinivas, is running under an assumed name and that he had previously registered with the Federal Election Commission to run for a congressional seat in Massachusetts.

We are fortunate that this attacked failed and that the candidate endorsed by Our Revolution is not in the run off
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
198. K & R They had/have one agenda & it wasn't the lie of free stuff.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:05 PM
Mar 2018

OR should be labelled a hate group.


Aristus

(66,387 posts)
5. If they were really that worried about harm coming to middle- and working-class communities,
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:33 AM
Mar 2018

they'd be protesting Trump, not Hillary Clinton.

These people are full of shit.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
11. Yes, would also be nice if Hillary donated the 25 grand to a Rutgers scholarship fund...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:47 AM
Mar 2018

to abate high tuition costs... would be a nice gesture.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
36. I lived next door to a major university for almost 40 years. Speakers & performers get paid...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:48 AM
Mar 2018

...what they get paid. FFS. And what they do with the money is their own business. Again, FFS.

As members of the public, my friends and I bought season tickets to the Arts & Lectures series offered through the University. Nearly every event is sold out. Students invariably get access to low-cost tickets, and if the venue is on the campus, they often get in free.

These are, believe me, special events, some more special than others.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
41. Michael Moore got $30-40,000 in 2005
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:04 AM
Mar 2018

from diverse universities, yet no one protested him. He is also a private citizen, and no one demanded he give away his fee. Only women are supposed to work for free, I guess.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
119. No one is demanding anything... just suggesting that it would be a nice gesture
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:22 AM
Mar 2018

on her part to donate to a scholarship fund that would help needy students.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
137. Why not? Said why, though either way is really fine... no pressure.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:10 AM
Mar 2018

But, again, in case you missed: "It would be a nice gesture on her part to donate to a scholarship fund that would help needy students."

Obviously, the group would be one of her choosing that's near and dear to her heart... not that one should hold it against Hillary if she decides to do something else with her hard earned money... including keeping it!

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
146. But it's not like Hillary is Imelda Marcos with closets full of shoes and clothes, obviously
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:37 AM
Mar 2018

spending massive amounts of money on stuff. Quite the opposite. I'm sure Hillary has to pay transportation fees, security, staff, etc., so why shouldn't she be paid for a speech? But of course, it's Hillary, so don't give her the benefit of the doubt, think the worst, worse than Imelda Marcos.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
218. Who said Hillary shouldn't be paid for giving a speech? Missed that one.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:00 PM
Mar 2018

Of course... no one said otherwise. How is that thinking the worst of Hillary?

brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
176. How much have you contributed to Rutgers as a nice gesture?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:54 AM
Mar 2018

You give you contributions as you see fit; so does Billsry Clinton.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
220. LOL, can't argue with that logic! OBVIOUSLY, Hillary gives contributions as she sees fit...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:06 PM
Mar 2018

as does the entire world population... and when Hillary or anyone else does, it's called a "nice gesture."

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
246. Why do you insist on puttin words in my mouth? When did I question Hillary's choice?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:30 PM
Mar 2018

For all you or I know, she very well could donate her speaking fee - can't we agree on that? - and that it would be a very nice gesture indeed... wouldn't surprise me in the least if she DOES do that, as Hillary is a giving person and is known to be quite generous in her charitable contributions.

So, why do YOU seem to be the only person questioning Hillary's capacity to make that other, charitable choice?

See how that works brooklynite? I'm not being serious, but, I'm sure if I was, you wouldn't appreciate my speaking for you... all I ask is that you please extend me the same courtesy. Thanks.

Have a great evening.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
144. She is being paid thru an Endowment. Nina is a Fellow on the Sanders Institute.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:35 AM
Mar 2018

What's your point again?

See Post #140.

140. Hillary Clinton Speech at Rutgers Sold Out, Moved to Larger Venue" From a crowd of 2000 to 8000


What's the problem again Nina?
...

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
155. So why the protest if no one is demaanding anything?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:06 AM
Mar 2018

She being paid from an Endowment Fund.
Not the University's slush fund.

Does Nina get paid to be a Fellow on the board of the Sanders Institute?

Just wondering.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
49. $25k isn't going to do a damn thing to "abate high tuition costs"
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:34 AM
Mar 2018
https://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1441

Tuition and fees: $14,638 in-state/$30,579 out-of-state
Room and board: $12,452
Books and supplies: $1350
Other expenses: $3751

Rutgers enrolls 69,198 students, 49,861 undergrads and 19,517 grad students

$25,000 comes out to about 50 cents per undergrad.

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
66. The speakers fee is paid from a special endowment fund
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:01 AM
Mar 2018

rather than through student fees and tuition. Tickets are free.

Will Clinton receive a speaker fee?
Secretary Clinton will receive the standard speaking fee for serving as the Clifford P. Case Professor for Public Affairs. The professorship is made possible by an endowment fund established in honor of Senator Case after his death in 1982. Her speaking fee is not publicly funded. Learn more about past Case Professorship speakers at http://eagleton.rutgers.edu/programs/case/index.php


https://www.facebook.com/events/950032348477686/

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
68. Hillary is a private citizen and has a right to be paid
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:07 AM
Mar 2018

Why are there always demands she not get paid? Why is it okay for everyone else (MEN) to get paid.

JUst stop.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
109. LOL, would say the same thing if Biden were speaking for $25k...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:13 AM
Mar 2018

Donating the money back to a Rutgers scholarship fund, say, for needy women, would be a great gesture... no?

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
151. That was always a contrived argument. Public figures
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:57 AM
Mar 2018

are in demand. So what if she or anyone talks to people. It is corrupt to constantly call people corrupt, especially when you have your own pile of FEC letters piling up about donation irregularities.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
173. I'm going to assume that you also spoke out that bernie should donate his money
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:49 AM
Mar 2018

from his books. Not sure why people think they have a right to tell Hillary what to do, but I never hear the same thing being said about bernie-or any white man. I'm a little touchy about this...she does donate her money, but I hate that everyone thinks they have the right to tell an accomplished woman what she should do, but never tell a man-bernie-the same damn thing...he made a good chunk of change off his books...

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
174. Have other speakers at Rutgers done so with their professorship fee? Why is this now suddenly
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:50 AM
Mar 2018

"suggested" for HRC?

And 10% of anything she and Bill make goes back to charity, via their personal family foundation.

Has it been suggested to career politicians who make 750K on a book advance, and makes free college a main talking point, to give even 10% of that towards making tuition available for needy women to go to a university?

It would be a great gesture...no?



 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
97. It would also have been a nice gesture for
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:36 AM
Mar 2018

Senator Sanders to have donated part of his earnings from his books to a scholarship fund, seeing as free college is one of his long time talking points.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
99. You mean like Michael Moore getting $40,000 for speaking at universities didn't?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:50 AM
Mar 2018

This is from 2004. Imagine what he's getting now....

Maven

(10,533 posts)
102. Oh fuck right off with that.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:55 AM
Mar 2018

She can do whatever the hell she wants with her money, and she doesn’t owe you or Nina Turner or Fox News No-Me-KEY or anyone else an explanation.

Why aren’t you telling Bernie what do with his speaking fees?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
116. Why so rude?! Nobody said Hillary can't do what she wants with her own money...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:17 AM
Mar 2018

that would include donating back to needy students. Would be a kind gesture... not that she can't keep it if she desires to spend as she damn well pleases, obviously. That's besides the point... no need to be rude about it.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
118. Politicians can't legally get speaker fees, going back to 1991.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:21 AM
Mar 2018

They can, however, make huge amounts in advance fees from publishing companies:

Sanders snagged $795K book advance last year


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/05/bernie-sanders-book-advance-our-revolution-239135

Maven

(10,533 posts)
122. Someone should tell his booking agent that.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:25 AM
Mar 2018
https://www.allamericanspeakers.com/speakers/393199/Bernie-Sanders

But yes, perhaps Bernie should donate his advance and royalties to struggling students. Would be a nice gesture, no?

George II

(67,782 posts)
143. Do you know that she won't? She's contributed hundred of thousands, maybe millions...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:34 AM
Mar 2018

....to the Clinton Foundation.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
148. The people in the middle who don't see her as a role model is who it hurts
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:43 AM
Mar 2018

Please show the rest us what middle-class person would get 25k for going to a podium to read off a few pages of words

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
157. She is a private citizen and has every right to make a paid speech.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:09 AM
Mar 2018

It is none of yours or our revolution's business. This will backfire on them...I expect their in their death throes, they will lash out just like Trump against Democrats and Hillary in particular.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
244. I am glad it is only about us and them
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:29 PM
Mar 2018

Thanks for that information



Us and Them
Pink Floyd
Us and them
And after all we're only ordinary men
Me and you
God only knows
It's not what we would choose to do
Forward he cried from the rear
And the front rank died
And the general sat
And the lines on the map
Moved from side to side
Black and blue
And who knows which is which and who is who
Up and down
And in the end it's only round 'n round
Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
The poster bearer cried
Listen son, said the man with the gun
There's room for you inside
"I mean, they're not gonna kill ya, so if you give 'em a quick short, sharp, shock, they won't do it again. Dig it? I mean he get off lightly, 'cause I would've given him a thrashing - I only hit him once! It was only a difference of opinion, but really...I mean good manners don't cost nothing do they, eh?"
Down and out
It can't be helped that there's a lot of it about
With, without
And who'll deny it's what the fighting's all about?
Out of the way
It's a busy day
I've got things on my mind
For the want of the price
Of tea and a slice
The old man died
Songwriters: Roger Waters / Rick Wright

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
248. I have no idea what you mean...or how this relates to a private citizen giving a paid speech...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:38 AM
Mar 2018

something ex-male politicians have done for years without a single complaint except Obama of course as he is a person of color. I am taking notes on groups like Our Revolution who advocate this shit so I can not support any of their candidates in a primary and make sure I don't ever send them a dime. Stop bashing Democrats and turn toward the true evil ORl...Republicans. Fake progressive groups like Our Revolution should do this or face extinction. If you would rather elect a Republican don't call yourself progressive. An OR endorsement for candidates should be a stigma...not any kind of benefit.

comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
6. I have yet to see OR do anything positive in support of
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:33 AM
Mar 2018

Democrats. I presume Bernie's PAC reflects Bernie's will.

brush

(53,787 posts)
7. A good reminder. This group evolved from Sanders' campaign. They spend their energy and...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:42 AM
Mar 2018

Last edited Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:38 AM - Edit history (1)

resources protesting against a Democrat instead of trump or McConnell or Ryan or Sessions.

What a-hole geniuses .

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
171. Nina was appointed by Jane Sanders as a Fellow to the Sanders Institute.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:32 AM
Mar 2018

Last edited Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:55 PM - Edit history (4)

It is set up to hide disclosing their funding sources.

Like the infamous tax returns, seems to be a lot of financial hiding going on.

Just saying.

This is who they are.

Another darling of the Sanders Institute Fellows, & supporting OR, is (EDIT) CORNEL WEST.
(apologies to Ben Jealous)

They are the extreme fringe "Left Tea Party", modelled suspiciously in style of the KOCH's "Right Tea Party"

Actually there is no Left or Right where the Kochs are concerned, they are fascist in their attempt to divde & remove all semblance of a free society.

The Tea Party could not have gotten where they are without the funding of the Kochs & without removing the Republican Party thru the same tactics as OR has used against the Democrats.

As Robert Mueller wrote in his final findings a few weeks ago, it was Donald Trump & Bernie Sanders who were the beneficiaries of the 2016 election interferance.

The billionares bought the election.
So when Nina Turner starts in on her "get money out of politics" bull crap, no one benefitted more from big money than Trump, Sanders & his organizations & Fellows who still carry the anti-Democratic Message in portraying it as the exact opposite of what Dems actually stand for.

As Sanders said, "Money & Media".

This is who they are.
But Dems have always know that about all things Sanders.

There is no defending Nina anymore.
Unless you truly want the free society of this country completly destroyed.

No one has benefitted from Big Money more than Trump & Sanders. As Mueller clearly stated.


This protest by Nina is more like the last gasp of a failed attempt.
Mueller outed their true identity.

Mueller isn't making this up.
I can't wait till his full investigation is complete.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
197. Big K & R to you Cha ☺
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:02 PM
Mar 2018

One of the most effective ways to get billionare & foreign money influence out of politics is with a full disclosure of a candidates Tax Docs.

No more hiding 'who you really are' .
This country deserves to know who you represent regardless of the cool one-liners used in a campaign.
After the disaster & flat out lies of the 2016 election, we must always know who we're electing.

Cha

(297,306 posts)
225. Yep, there's a reason trump would
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:31 PM
Mar 2018

never show his tax returns.. and of course his sucky fans didn't care, as long as he was spewing at his hate filled rallies.

Mahalo, Wwcd!

Maven

(10,533 posts)
106. +1
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:06 AM
Mar 2018

And those under investigation for defrauding banks and causing colleges to go under.

On the upside, I guess when your college no longer exists, tuition is free.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
123. Winner-winner-chicken-dinner!! THIS!!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:30 AM
Mar 2018

They're trying to capitalize on lingering "Hillary hate" by turning her appearances into fund-raising "issues".

She's a goddamned PRIVATE CITIZEN now. She deserves as much as she can make for ever syllable uttered and every word written!!

They don't own her. They can't tell her what to do or what to say!!!


 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
22. Looks like Our Revolution is letting this stand
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:10 AM
Mar 2018

They are complicit in this nonsense from the very top.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
28. This is really stupid, she's a private citizen.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:28 AM
Mar 2018

Any person who buys into this is being duped. There's no good faith, or righteousness about this move. It's obvious bullshit meant to divide the Democrats.

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
29. There is always a few loose screws with every movement
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:29 AM
Mar 2018

Relax folks.

Nina Turner isn't protesting Hillary.

For cripes sakes.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
35. How can you be so sure about that?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:47 AM
Mar 2018

Though anyone can create an event on their page, the OR event has to be approved by them before it is posted. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, in Nina Turner's prior history would indicate that she would refuse to attend such a protest on principle. If she hasn't time, or she considers the event too small, yes, but not because it is protesting HRC, or even protesting a Democrat.

Cha

(297,306 posts)
43. So you're blaming it on "a few loose screws"? How
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:09 AM
Mar 2018

do you know Nina Turner isn't "protesting Hillary"?

Cha

(297,306 posts)
58. Word. She just as well said she didn't vote for Hillary in the GE.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:44 AM
Mar 2018

"..wasn't backing anybody this General Election.."

Such vision.. such foresight..

Tarheel

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
84. If our revolution has it on their website...than they endorse it. And Nina Turner hates
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:04 AM
Mar 2018

Democrats (who must prove themselves) and Hillary. She is the head of the organization...thing to do folks is to not vote for any of their candidates in a primary....make it a black mark against the candidate to be support by this group.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
209. More than likely, Nina Turner gave them the green light to protest.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:40 PM
Mar 2018

The drive by group is just screaming for headlines.

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)
31. If it comes out of the Student Activity Fees, it would pretty much wipe out most of it.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:36 AM
Mar 2018

I remember attending a Utopia concert at Rutgers Camden. The cost of the band ate up the entire student activity fees for the year, even after the tickets were sold. So, by just having that one concert, students were completely fucked that year.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
34. Well, it's a popular event (the HRC one, that is)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:43 AM
Mar 2018

as they've already switched venues to one three times as big as the original one.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
39. This would not come out of student activity fees. Rutgers would have a special department...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:00 AM
Mar 2018

Last edited Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:32 PM - Edit history (1)

...like UCSB's Arts & Lectures (see my post above). Season tickets are sold by subscription, some much pricier than others, but that doesn't cover all of the costs. The local community is encouraged to donate varying amounts, and a couple of pages in each program are devoted to naming donors, from those who give $100 to the very well-heeled who might give $10,000 a year ("Founders Circle" or something). Universities -- in fact all colleges worth the name -- also have Endowments.

Believe me, this is not coming out of students' piggy-banks.

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
70. As per the event information, the fee
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:11 AM
Mar 2018

(which is standard at $25,000) is paid (as it always is) through a special endowment, not through student fees/tuition or through public funds. Tickets are free.

https://www.facebook.com/events/950032348477686/?active_tab=about

still_one

(92,219 posts)
38. As far as I am concerned "our revolution" gang has no desire to work within the Democratic party
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:00 AM
Mar 2018

The mindset of that group did everything they could to undermine and discourage people not to vote for the Democratic nominee, and that will NOT be forgotten.

Their so-called revolution can go ____ __________, because that is essentially what a good number of them did to America by not voting for the Democratic nominee

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
42. It is outrageous. They might as well be chanting "Lock her up"
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:09 AM
Mar 2018

Hillary has every right to say and do what she wants and make as much money as she wants.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
53. Funny thing about that
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:05 AM
Mar 2018

I suspect the "movement" to harass Hillary is being paid for by the same people who shouted "lock her up" in 2016.
"Our" revolution funded by "Their" money.

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
44. This is despicable
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:18 AM
Mar 2018

I don't know much about this group, but they appear to be not very grounded. They certainly do not know who the real adversaries are.

On another note, Love ya Hillary!! and

denvine

(802 posts)
47. I feel they are well intentioned but,
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:33 AM
Mar 2018

ill advised as to how to proceed. They are trying to move the party to the left. Their big mistake right now is we need our party to come together more than ever. We need a Blue Wave to save our country from the disaster that is the Trump administration. So whether it is Hillary calling the states that voted for Trump as being backward thinking or Our Revolution protesting Hillary's speech, they need to stop and look at the big picture. Let's get past November. We have no room for dissension in the ranks. We need all hands on deck and everyone to work together. After November we can have this conversation about which way the party needs to go, but not now. We need to win as many offices as possible. We need to stop Trump! At this point I believe them to both be in the wrong and hope they will do what is right for the country instead of their ideology, which may not be wrong, but now is not the time. We need to go to the voting both in November as one strong and together party. I hope they can all see that.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
88. They are not well intentioned and we know it...time to make this group's endorsement a
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:07 AM
Mar 2018

stigma that causes candidates to lose. If they wanted to work with us they would not do this...thus we need to realize they want only to hurt us and respond accordingly. They are no different than Republicans or Greens.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
185. They want liberal progressive politicians in office.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:16 PM
Mar 2018

If that end means that they aren't working with you, then don't support them. And start thinking about supporting progressive candidates, too.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
196. They don't want that...they want to destroy the Democratic Party and I am against anyone in a
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:02 PM
Mar 2018

primary that they endorse...and all Democrats should do this...if one makes it to the General well no choice then...have to vote for any Democrat in the general...but next time a new primary and out they go assuming they win which most of Ms.Turner's candidates don't. She and her minions are bitter and angry about 2016 and are helping Trump.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
199. They don't want the Democratic Party to move to the middle.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:05 PM
Mar 2018

They want an emphasis on progressive values. So do I. Fighting for progressive candidates is not supporting Trump.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
202. Problem is, they aren't even actual Progressives.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:16 PM
Mar 2018

But it was an easy grab when they needed to emerge as something familiar.

The claim to being Progressive has defied the true meaning of Progressivism.

They are more regressive in the candidates they back.
The Democratic Party is also progressive.
To claim ownership of that label was intentional to divide the voting populace rather than merge & grow the voting populace.

I'd love to see the True Progressive Party take on this group who co-opted their good name.

The True Progressive Party would not spend 2yrs decrying the Dem Party.
They have always worked side by side for policies.

Nice going.
We see what they are.

Truth is, most people claiming the Progressive label today have no idea what the True Progressive Party even stood for.

"Money & Media" bought this.





Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
237. It is way beyond that. And since Our Revolution supported Mello who was right of center in Nebraska,
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:03 PM
Mar 2018

they are not trying to move left...they went down and campaigned for the guy who was responsible for making it illegal for the exchanges to have abortion coverage among other evil bills that Mello supported. He also voted for a pipeline. They want to destroy Democrats. They are worthless and will like the Greens cost us elections.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
238. In my other post, I mentioned Mello...he is not the only one...and they risk a Senate seat
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:06 PM
Mar 2018

in WV running a candidate against Joe Manchin...we lose the seat if they win and if they have weakened him, we lose the seat...sure they help us...over a cliff. And they support Greens and GOP types...but Democrats have to beg for their support. Support from this group means no support from me in a primary period.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
222. I just noticed it was cancelled. Christ, they need to get OVER the primaries already.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:21 PM
Mar 2018

HRC is not running!

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
236. I agree. I hear that this OR person will still organize a protest ...just not an OR protest.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:59 PM
Mar 2018

This is where the 16 Democratic party haters have organized to do damage to Democrats...may have started with Sanders but it is not what he envisioned now. He should disavow them and not appear at their rallies and not comment publicly on the Democratic Party at all.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
91. No it is not. This group and all of the leaders/members are vengeful, spiteful and would
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:10 AM
Mar 2018

rather re-elect Republicans and Trump than Democrats. We should have nothing to do with them. This will out them as to who they really are. I expect their donations will dry up except the ones from Republicans of course.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
62. i wouldn't worry too much about this. it will probably be similar to the protest during her book
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:13 AM
Mar 2018

signing.

which was a total of about 5 people and it included sanders, stein, and trump supporters.

so a total of about 5 from those 3 campaigns.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
93. This is an our revolution event...they will make sure it is more than this.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:11 AM
Mar 2018

They hate Hillary more than Trump.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
65. Shades of Westboro Baptist.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:31 AM
Mar 2018

You can be sure they'll take every opportunity to make any media coverage of Hillary's appearance all about them.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
73. Nina...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:41 AM
Mar 2018

...happily participated in the recent anti-Hillary stories. I think it may be time to consider the "Our Revolution" movement is not "aligned" with Democrats; rather, it is against Democrats - they are opposed to both Republicans and Democrats.

 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
75. WTF is wrong with these people?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:46 AM
Mar 2018

We have ACTUAL FASCISTS in control of our govt, colluding with a foreign power to destroy our democracy.

And they're protesting a Democrat?!?

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
107. A retired, out of power one too. Its got to be some type of operation to lead the usefully idiotic
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:07 AM
Mar 2018

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
76. I consider this group the same as Greens...I won't vote for any of their candidates in a general or
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:48 AM
Mar 2018

send any money either. Sen. Sanders needs to distance himself from this group...he was at one of their rallies in Texas. Why would you protest a private citizen? I consider Nina Turner culpable for 16 and no different than Sarandon or Stein.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
94. I know which should mean that he has no chance of running in a Democratic Primary in 20.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:15 AM
Mar 2018

He also said stuff about the Democratic Party. I won't vote for Sanders in a primary in 20. He should not be permitted to run as a Democrat as he is not a Democrat clearly. Our Revolution hates Democrats.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
85. I get emails from Our Revolution. They often mention that Bernie Sanders founded them.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:05 AM
Mar 2018

If Sanders disagrees with this Putin-funded organization - and I assume he does - then he needs to publicly disavow them.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
98. What does HRC speaking at Rutgers has to do with "money in politics"
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:42 AM
Mar 2018

and how does her speech harm middle- and lower class-citizens?



sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
175. Absolutely nothing.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:50 AM
Mar 2018

They are making shit up. She is a private citizen and can speak when and where she pleases. Why the hell are they not protesting the Nazi's in the White House!?!

Maven

(10,533 posts)
103. They are politically irrelevant and cant get anyone elected to any office that matters
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:02 AM
Mar 2018

So the next best thing is to stalk the woman they blame for all their shortcomings.

“Our Revolution” is pathetic.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
128. Is it true that nearly all their "preferred" or "endorsed" candidates actually LOSE their election?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:49 AM
Mar 2018

I've heard that their track-record of success isn't very good at all. (Except when they "endorse" candidates who are running unopposed, I suppose.)

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
160. The only ones who win are those they endorse so they can jump on the bandwagon and
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:14 AM
Mar 2018

claim an unearned win.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
104. I hate these assholes as much as republicans!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:04 AM
Mar 2018

These pukes are servants of Putin!

We have a MFing fascist SOB in the white house threatening democracy and the rule of law every day and 'our revolution" pieces of trash want to protest Hillary!?

Go to hell you fucking undercover republicans!!!!!!!!!!!!

bpj62

(999 posts)
112. Who cares
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:13 AM
Mar 2018

I am so confused. It is 2018 and The General Election was 16 months ago. Hilliary is a private citizen and is allowed to speak where she wants. Also as multiple posters have stated she is receiving the standard speaker fee that comes from an endowment that Rutgers established which bliws,a hole in the Hilliary is disconnected from reality part of the OP. I was taught that time is money but I guess if you are Hilliary you are supposed to either shut up and go away or not gert paid for your time.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
115. Most e-mails I get from OR ask for $$$$
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:16 AM
Mar 2018

We'll see how the candidates they've endorsed (if any) for office fare, but so far it seems that for all their blustering they've accomplished absolutely NOTHING.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
120. Why stalk a private citizen? Hillary DESERVES every fucking dollar they're willing to part with!!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:23 AM
Mar 2018

This is just a money-grab for those malcontents who still can't accept reality.

They're not fooling anyone.

Sad.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
136. Every true Democrat needs to ignore Our Revolution. They are no different than Republicans.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:58 AM
Mar 2018

This protest is perhaps the worst political stunt perpetrated since 1/20/2017 by anyone not in the White House.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
138. Wow, this is stupid....
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:13 AM
Mar 2018

....I'm someone who thinks that Hillary was not a great candidate, and who takes a lot of issues with her politically. But it's done and she is a private citizen so what is the point in protesting her?

Especially at a college like Rugers (I'm from NJ) that spends such ridiculous amounts of money on sports programs that 25K is a drop in the bucket. I'd much rather my state university be spending money on speakers with a lot to say like Hillary than on almost anything else that they already spend their money on.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
163. I am one who thinks most of what you wrote is untrue and is again saddened by seeing how well
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:17 AM
Mar 2018

a GOP hatchet jobs work. The villainization of Hillary Clinton was a GOP hit job and was never true or fair. Until we stop allowing such hit jobs to matter to us, we will not win consistently as any candidate is subject to this.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
156. She showed us her taxes. Where are his taxes.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:08 AM
Mar 2018

If you want to throw out snide and stale rally cries, expect them back. No more of this double standard nonsense.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
213. Your snark about her wasnt misinterpreted. Years of that
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:19 PM
Mar 2018

has been allowed unchecked. We all know what you meant about her speech.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
217. Were you not referencing Clintons speech?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:49 PM
Mar 2018

Was this not a leftover primary rally cry to blame Clinton for the harassment by Bernie’s revolution group? For a group that pretends to be about transparency, it’s hypocritical not to open your own books.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
223. Give it up, and move on
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:23 PM
Mar 2018
You'll have to find someone to pick a fight with.

You're looking for a quarrel where there is none.


R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
228. So breaking down the speech fee into minute
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:51 PM
Mar 2018

by minute compensation wasn’t really a rally cry from the primary meant to malign Hillary like we we’ve seen from the Revolution?? Because I was just referencing that it’s hypocritical not to be transparent when you demand it of others...

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
224. Placing you on ignore
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:28 PM
Mar 2018
Now you'll need to find someone else to try to engage in a quarrel.
I don't play that sad game.




left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
241. Hillary speaks !
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:15 PM
Mar 2018

Remember,
we were asked --

"When will Hillary be allowed to speak ??? !!!"

(Inferring she has been silenced)

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
140. Hillary Clinton Speech at Rutgers Sold Out, Moved to Larger Venue" From a crowd of 2000 to 8000.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:19 AM
Mar 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016203240


From the link:

Hillary Clinton will make a rare appearance at Rutgers University to talk about politics, American democracy, her career and women’s role in the political movement.

The university’s Eagleton Institute of Politics will host the talk on March 29. The former secretary of state, senator, first lady and presidential candidate will speak at the College Avenue Gym at the New Brunswick, New Jersey, campus.

Clinton will talk with Eagleton director Ruth Mandel about her years in public life, the institutions of government, her political career and her role in shaping women’s political history, according to the Eagleton Institute.

Clinton will visit the university as the Eagleton Institute’s 2017-2018 Clifford P. Case Professor of Public Affairs.

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And Here:

http://wpgtalkradio.com/hillary-speech-at-rutgers-sold-out-moved-to-larger-venue/

Students, faculty, and staff will be able to register for tickets to the event on Wednesday at 2 p.m. The public will be able to register for remaining tickets at 2 p.m., March 20. Links for tickets will be posted on the institute’s social media channels, and everyone who already reserved a ticket will have a new one re-issued prior to the event. Current ticket holders will get an update on their new tickets by email, according to the school.

Clinton will be paid through an endowment for the Clifford P. Case Professor for Public Affairs. When former President Barack Obama spoke at the school’s commencement ceremony almost two years ago, he received just over $1.4 million for his speech. Clinton will get $25,000
,

NJ.com reported.



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Is this what Our Rev & The Sanders Institute has become?

This is what Endowments are set up for Nina.
Maybe talk to Rutgers about your problem.

Have fun with your fake claim of a protest.
I'm sure you'll find some Trumpers to join you.









MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
142. Marginal Political Group Marginalized Again.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:31 AM
Mar 2018

Our Revolution packs no punch at all in US politics. It is just a small group of people who don't really understand politics, trying to make a name for themselves. They're revolting (in both senses of the word), but nobody is noticing.

Hillary's talk will be well-attended. Those protesting her speech will be well-ignored.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
153. Jeezus! Leave the woman alone!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:02 AM
Mar 2018

She's not running for office. She's a private citizen. She has the right to go and speak wherever she wants. She's NOT a threat to the current Democratic movement. SHE'S RETIRED! And she served our country with distinction.

Making an issue of the fact that she has a speaking engagement is a distraction that no one needs. Whoever decided to make a scene at Rutgers is seriously misguided and mistaken. I'd suspect that there's some manipulation of the "leaders" of this movement by Russian agents of influence, or even GOP trolls. Someone ought to put a stop to it.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
154. I've been sick
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:05 AM
Mar 2018

and have not read their recent emails. Looks like I am out of touch.

Groups do what groups do. If you have to agree with everything someone does you are asking for something that does not remotely resemble this country and what it supposedly stands for.

Hillary is a big girl. If she could not stand up to this she would be at home babysitting the grands. I think she will live through this too.

peggysue2

(10,831 posts)
161. Is Anyone Really Surprised?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:16 AM
Mar 2018

This is the same group that attacked the Democratic Party from its left flank because . . . well because Trump would be a grand impetus to Our Revolution. Clearly the Susan Sarandon faction would be pleased as punch with this 'rallying of the troops.'

Nina Turner and her adherents offer the lame excuse that the protest is all about money in politics harming middle and lower class citizens. They, like the Far-Right, seem to have missed the results of the 2016 election. Hillary Clinton is not in the WH. Hillary Clinton is a private citizen. As a private citizen she has the right to speak her mind at any venue she damn well chooses.

Or is Our Revolution against First Amendment rights; one should only speak or accept a fee when the subject matter & venue is approved by their organization? Or is she to speak for free? Would that 'put her in touch" with the critics and howlers??

Sorry, but these are the same people shouting for the ouster of Nancy Pelosi and DiFi because these woman also do not meet their standards.

This on-going nonsense gives the Horseshoe Theory a good deal of credence.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
177. Seriously?!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:55 AM
Mar 2018


We are dealing with Trump/Russia, the possibility of Trump subverting a legal investigation of him, and the possibility of him initiating/supporting nuclear war with N. Korea and THIS, THIS is what OR is focusing on?!



I just can't even.......
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
178. Did they protest Bill Kristol in February?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:55 AM
Mar 2018

William Kristol: Our Country, the Constitution and Conservatism

http://eagleton.rutgers.edu/events/

A quick check of OR's FB page listing events shows nothing whatsoever in terms of protesting him:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/orhazlet/events/?ref=page_internal

I guess he wasn't really offensive to them. He is a long time conservative. But apparently he isn't "out of touch" like they rant Hillary Rodham Clinton is.

I'm guessing they won't be protesting any of the rest of the Obama adminstration or GWB's administration either.



Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
188. Hillary is still used by Trump as a Democratic ogre,
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:30 PM
Mar 2018

so we now know who Our Revolution wants to revolt against. They seem to be reaching out to Trump and his supporters.

George II

(67,782 posts)
193. I just added a screen shot of the twitter message. It has been rescheduled as a "private event"....
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:00 PM
Mar 2018

....and they're saying it has no association with Our Revolution.

Yes, they must have gotten a lot of push back.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
212. About bleedin' time!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:15 PM
Mar 2018

It was not a good thing this was approved in the first place, and shows quite clearly what their instinctual opinions are. They hate HRC, perhaps even more than Trump, and would rather attack people who are in the trenches in them than the ones on the other side of the battlefield. I use a bloody, violent war metaphor because make no mistake, we are at war, Trump is a traitor, and the republic is at stake, and Our Revolution would rather attack the Allies than the Axis.

Cha

(297,306 posts)
233. I just saw that on Ragnarok's twitter
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:10 PM
Mar 2018

feed.. also Weaver says "BS does not support the protest and condemns the action"

So stupid to begin with.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
250. These losers are obsessed w/Hillary and her money.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 11:16 PM
Mar 2018

She's a celebrity and in-demand speaker who should make whatever the market rate is for her services... $25k is chump change, she could've probably gotten $250k if she pressed them.

Nina Turner and Corny West are alt-left PoC tokens, in what is a mostly white (and white identified) movement.

The alt-left are anything but progressive: they are socially conservative/libertarian and economically hard left... basically neo-Dixiecrats who hate social liberalism and progressive capitalism that is embraced by the modern Clinton/Obama Dem party.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
252. These idiots should be protesting Trump.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 11:28 PM
Mar 2018

What's the point of going after Hillary? Frankly, I don't give a damn how much anyone gets paid for giving a speech. If they can get paid a fair amount of money, then good for them. Besides, $25K is pretty low compared to her standard fee.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
257. Because some on DU claim that Our Revolution is on our side.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:10 AM
Mar 2018

Obviously that isn't so, this event being exhibit Z in a long line of evidence, but like the jpr members who frequented our board a year and a half ago, OR can make it much harder to fight our real enemy, the GOP. OR is fucking shooting us in the back as we charge the nazis, and they have no shame about it.

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