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Initech

(100,080 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:29 PM Mar 2018

Stephen Hawking Was Apparently Kept Alive By Demons

On his radio program last week, Donald Trump-loving pastor, conspiracy theorist and birther Carl Gallups interviewed Mike Shoesmith, the executive editor of PNN News, who claimed that famed physicist Stephen Hawking was able to live for decades with ALS because he was being kept alive by demons.

Shoesmith, who normally appears on Gallups’ program to complain about women, insisted that it was no coincidence that Hawking died just weeks after Billy Graham passed away, explaining that Graham’s ministry “really kicked off” in 1942, which prompted the devil to use Hawking, who was born in 1942, to counter Graham’s preaching.

“[Graham] is a hundred percent devoted,” Shoesmith said. “The Lord sees his heart, gives him a tremendous ministry, and who do you think is sitting in the background going, ‘I have to do something about this, this guy is sold out, I have to do something’? Who do you think is sitting in the background doing that? The devil, right?”

“So, in 1942, that is when Billy Graham’s ministry really takes off, and who do you think was born in 1942?” he continued. “Stephen Hawking. Stephen Hawking comes from a long line of atheists—his father and all these people—so I believe the devil said, ‘OK, this guy was just born and I’m going to use this guy. This guy is already primed to accept my message that there is no God. He is already primed for it, he is going to be awash, immersed in atheism all his years as a child, I’m going to take over this guy’s life.'”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/mike-shoesmith-i-believe-stephen-hawking-was-kept-alive-by-demonic-forces/


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Stephen Hawking Was Apparently Kept Alive By Demons (Original Post) Initech Mar 2018 OP
It sounds like comedy... IluvPitties Mar 2018 #1
So sad that this isn't a piece from The Onion mvd Mar 2018 #12
He should be #1 in your top ten this week malaise Mar 2018 #2
He'll definitely make an appearance in "Holy Shit"! Initech Mar 2018 #3
Shoesmith, who normally appears on Gallups program to complain about women, underpants Mar 2018 #4
Grown-ass people believe in demons. Iggo Mar 2018 #5
Remember that crazy woman from Trading Spouses? Initech Mar 2018 #8
Demons from black holes dalton99a Mar 2018 #6
By the Demons of Ignorance snort Mar 2018 #7
Dun! Dun! DUNNNN! longship Mar 2018 #9
What a convenient patsy for those who lack critical thinking skills Blue Owl Mar 2018 #10
Critical thinking? I think that died about 15 years ago. Initech Mar 2018 #11
I'm trying to think of the logical fallacy this falls under ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #13
This probably deserves its own category. nt. Mariana Mar 2018 #14
Sneaky of them to create logical fallacies for which there is no name! ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #15
It must be demons doing it, working through them. Mariana Mar 2018 #16
Oh, that's the old "Daemonium Fallacy" ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #17
I would call it "ad ignoramous". Initech Mar 2018 #18
Does ad ignoramus sort of negate an ad hominem? ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #20
Mine was a made up fallacy. Initech Mar 2018 #21
I know yours was a made up fallacy ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #22
what a nimb rod CelticWinter Mar 2018 #19

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
13. I'm trying to think of the logical fallacy this falls under
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:04 PM
Mar 2018

Sort of ad hoc ergo propter hoc, but not quite.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. Sneaky of them to create logical fallacies for which there is no name!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:09 PM
Mar 2018

How ever will we be able to defend against them?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. Oh, that's the old "Daemonium Fallacy"
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:27 PM
Mar 2018

Anything that does not relate directly relate to evangelical interpretation of the bible is a "Daemonium Fallacy".

But since students have difficulty with Latin terms, we can substitute "Evangelical 'Splainin' Fallacy".

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
20. Does ad ignoramus sort of negate an ad hominem?
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 03:23 PM
Mar 2018

For instance, if I say that Shoesmith is a fucking insult to all intelligent life in the universe, that is an ad hominem. But if Shoesmith proves my assertion to be absolutely true through his mad ravings, then doesn't the ad ignoramus cancel out my own logical fallacy?

Also, isn't a desperate exercise in futility to discuss "logic" in the context of RWNJs?

Initech

(100,080 posts)
21. Mine was a made up fallacy.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 03:46 PM
Mar 2018

But yes trying to decipher the logic of right wing nut jobs would certainly make one's head explode!

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
22. I know yours was a made up fallacy
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 06:31 PM
Mar 2018

Made up fallacies are the only ones applicable to weird RWNJ pseudo chrisitan (but more like Marllyn Manson acid trip) conspiracy stories.

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