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Adam Schiff re: Bolton..."Heaven help us!" (Original Post) Tanuki Mar 2018 OP
This does not make me feel better... backtoblue Mar 2018 #1
Obama had the opportunity to hold the neocons responsible for the Iraq catastrophe and blew it. olegramps Mar 2018 #22
So, Obama Should Have Acted Like Trump... TomCADem Mar 2018 #28
Holding them accountable is not in the in same category as the vindictive actions of the GOP. olegramps Mar 2018 #29
Yet, You Seem To Express Admiration for their Actions... TomCADem Mar 2018 #31
I fail to even understand how you could arrived at that conclusion. I suggest you reread my post. olegramps Mar 2018 #33
WTC conspiracy, anyone? disndat Mar 2018 #30
Why doesn't he hire the entire Fux Ruse staff in one full group BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #2
not Fux Ruse... handmade34 Mar 2018 #4
Yeah, the first time I heard him use that term BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #6
Just look at Faux and News Corp. as an official department under... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #11
mayday poboy2 Mar 2018 #3
Not to be funny bdamomma Mar 2018 #5
Run for President Adam! zentrum Mar 2018 #7
yes!! TalenaGor Mar 2018 #16
He's on Rachel right now FakeNoose Mar 2018 #8
He is on Rachel right now bdamomma Mar 2018 #9
Bolton is a war-mongering, dangerous, fake Christian (bring on Armageddon) asshole. Jack-o-Lantern Mar 2018 #10
Dumb, simplistic thinker, like all GOP politicians sharedvalues Mar 2018 #18
and still the GOP twiddles its thumbs RussBLib Mar 2018 #12
Hoping for a miracle, I want my babies and BittyJenkins Mar 2018 #13
Let's ask a republican, George Voinovich, was he thought of Bolton when wiggs Mar 2018 #14
Just watch! Trump starts a real war and declares a national emergency, shutting down the probe! machoneman Mar 2018 #15
Democracy Is In Danger Progressive2020 Mar 2018 #17
Get ready for a war in Korea! UCmeNdc Mar 2018 #19
OK, GOP. Time to step up. ginnyinWI Mar 2018 #20
Weird, insane, paranoid POShite Cha Mar 2018 #21
Maybe John Bolton won't LAST with Dotard......John Bolton isn't going to come onecent Mar 2018 #23
I'm hoping that the skeletons in Bolton's closet will prevent him from getting the necessary Tanuki Mar 2018 #24
Great Cartoon!!!! onecent Mar 2018 #25
Thoughts and prayers ain't gonna help here either C_U_L8R Mar 2018 #26
Trump's gift to the world. Turbineguy Mar 2018 #27
We *need* to talk about the point this executive branch becomes illegitimate ck4829 Mar 2018 #32
Perhaps in the voting booth lunatica Mar 2018 #34

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
22. Obama had the opportunity to hold the neocons responsible for the Iraq catastrophe and blew it.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:42 PM
Mar 2018

I took out the time to read both of Obama's books. The major theme in both was his pathetically naive hope for constructive cooperation between the two parties. The very first night of his inauguration, the Republican's chief henchmen met in Washington taking vow to oppose any attempt at reconciliation with the intent of destroying his chance for reelection. The made good on their evil pack and opposed every effort by Obama and the Democrats to pass effective legislation. Their intent was so extreme, that totally disregarded the welfare of the nation in their pursuit to destroy Obama.

From the outset instead of holding the Republicans accountable for the Iraq disaster, he pursued in ridiculous notion that he could actually bring them to a position of mutual compromise. Consider the stark contrast between his inaction and the Republican's determination to destroy Hillary Clinton. Rather than opening investigations of the entirety of the Bush administration's out right lies to engage the nation in an unjustified invasion of Iraq, he played lets all get along and put the past behind us. The fact is that the neo-cons who dominated Bush's administration, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Bolton, ad nausea, were determined to invade Iraq long before they came into power and published their intentions in their document "Program for the next American Century" PNAC. Each and everyone of these criminals should have been brought up before investigative committees and made to answer for the deaths of over 5,000 American soldiers and thousands of who continue to suffer because of their evil actions. Now one of the more notorious of these treasonous bastards, Bolton, is being put into a position of power by the Trump administration to pursue even more potentially catastrophic blunders.

The contrast between what Obama should have done and what the Republicans continue to due in their dogged pursuit of destroying Clinton is without parallel in recent history. Although I find much that is admirable about President Obama, I contend that his lack of nerve to hold these people accountable was a major mistake. Rather than enjoying new found admiration they should be serving jail terms until they rot.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
29. Holding them accountable is not in the in same category as the vindictive actions of the GOP.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:54 AM
Mar 2018

Last edited Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Very simply put our nation is in a fight for the survival of the constitutional principles upon which it is founded. The Bush administration should have been held accountable based solely on the facts that their actions were based on outright lies. It is the Republicans who have pursued fascist tactics to divide the nation which was founded on the principle of E pluribus unum (From many one.) This not a recent problem but can be traced to the Nixon administration which was founded on the Southern Strategy and continued until the present. The goal is the total discreding of the Democrats and liberalism as un-Amrican and ungodly immoral threats to real Americans. Exactly the same tactics that the Nazis used to come to power.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
31. Yet, You Seem To Express Admiration for their Actions...
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 07:04 PM
Mar 2018

...again if I wanted Democrats to act like Republicans, I would just be a Republican.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
33. I fail to even understand how you could arrived at that conclusion. I suggest you reread my post.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 02:38 PM
Mar 2018

Here is what I can only determine is that you are an apologist for the Republicans and fail to desire to condemn them for their fascists tactics. Goodbye and have a nice day.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
2. Why doesn't he hire the entire Fux Ruse staff in one full group
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 09:03 PM
Mar 2018

since they will all be on the W House payroll sooner or later. Maybe Hannity can do Hope Hicks's job (whatever that was supposed to be... she pressed his pants when they needed a fresh crease while wearing them).

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
6. Yeah, the first time I heard him use that term
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 09:16 PM
Mar 2018

I didn't get it and thought there actually was a real TV station with that name. I love the "I Hate Fox News" t-shirt that someone gave to me at the border wall,protest one week ago (it seems like a month ago since so much happens in Bizarro World on a daily basis). I am wearing it to the March For Our Lives on Sat.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
11. Just look at Faux and News Corp. as an official department under...
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 10:05 PM
Mar 2018

the Executive Branch of the US government.

Much more simple to digest that way. Very efficient because it also serves the Republicon congress.

.................

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
18. Dumb, simplistic thinker, like all GOP politicians
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:46 PM
Mar 2018

the smart, strategic people in the GOP are the billionaire donors. The "intellectuals" and politicians are all stupid useful idiots, installed by the billionaires so they can be manipulated. Ever listen to Meadows or Jeffords or Mulvaney speak? They're morons and tools of the Koches. Just like Bolton.

RussBLib

(9,022 posts)
12. and still the GOP twiddles its thumbs
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:15 PM
Mar 2018

hard to accept this level of complicity with so many so-called "patriots"

BittyJenkins

(411 posts)
13. Hoping for a miracle, I want my babies and
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:19 PM
Mar 2018

grand babies and beyond to have a chance to live. They will create WWIII just so there is a better chance to win 2018 elections. Pray for sane republicans....feeling despondent tonight.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
14. Let's ask a republican, George Voinovich, was he thought of Bolton when
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:20 PM
Mar 2018

Bolton was up for UN Ambassador:

https://thinkprogress.org/full-transcript-voinovich-makes-the-case-against-bolton-71d9190003ed/

and more powerfully:



Excerpt

"Mr. Chairman, I have to say that after poring over the hundreds of pages of testimony and — you know, I wasn’t here for those hearings, but I did my penance, I read all of it — I believe that John Bolton would have been fired if he’d worked for a major corporation. This is not the behavior of a true leader who upholds the kind of democracy that President Bush is seeking to promote globally. This is not the behavior that should be endorsed as the face of the United States to the world community and the United Nations. Rather, Mr. Chairman, it is my opinion that John Bolton is the poster child of what someone in the diplomatic corps should not be."

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
15. Just watch! Trump starts a real war and declares a national emergency, shutting down the probe!
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:20 PM
Mar 2018

I hope not but with Bolton on board....look out!

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
17. Democracy Is In Danger
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:45 PM
Mar 2018

These people are Authoritarians, Fascists, and have contempt for Democracy. Hitler originally came to power through election, and then began consolidating power through non-democratic, authoritarian means. These people need to be stopped before they start a Nuclear War. November 2018 can not come soon enough. We need a Blue Wave to wash these Fascists out of power.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
23. Maybe John Bolton won't LAST with Dotard......John Bolton isn't going to come
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:47 PM
Mar 2018

on until April 9 ???

I still bet Bolton won't last long enough for a war...

BUT WHO Knows?????????????????

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
24. I'm hoping that the skeletons in Bolton's closet will prevent him from getting the necessary
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:51 PM
Mar 2018

security clearance.

C_U_L8R

(45,004 posts)
26. Thoughts and prayers ain't gonna help here either
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:55 PM
Mar 2018

We need action and have to vote these fuckers out of every public office.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. Perhaps in the voting booth
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:59 PM
Mar 2018

If not then the slide into oligarchic fascism will continue.

It might be time to realistically consider that eventuality because to not think about is to not do anything about it.

The USA will continue, but in what form?

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