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CNN says Trump's new lawyer may quit: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Mar 2018 OP
Hmmm gratuitous Mar 2018 #1
which 'new' lawyer is it? spanone Mar 2018 #2
diGenova? Miles Archer Mar 2018 #8
Yes and his wife Victoria Toensing. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #11
he's probably got dead bodies in the closet spanone Mar 2018 #18
Trump may dump his new Mueller probe lawyer after just one meeting: report Miles Archer Mar 2018 #37
Bad teeth. Can't he afford a new set of dentures? LOSER! erronis Mar 2018 #46
Dentures are part of the Deep State. Soros invented dentistry with Saul Alinski! Gore1FL Mar 2018 #66
Implants could have implants! dchill Mar 2018 #74
I would go with the thinning hair GusBob Mar 2018 #79
The Toensings are a bit of a problem in Vermont. Generally not a very "agreeable" bunch. erronis Mar 2018 #45
Sounds like they should fit in nicely with other hyenas. Hortensis Mar 2018 #64
Sounds like Bannon's still saidsimplesimon Mar 2018 #31
Who is it? I can't keep track! MoonRiver Mar 2018 #3
DiGenova. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #13
Crazy client? C_U_L8R Mar 2018 #4
trump wants his roy cohn - only no good lawyer will knowingly lie for a client or getagrip_already Mar 2018 #42
Is this the crazy diGenova guy? Siwsan Mar 2018 #5
Guy who uses a cigar as a prop Awsi Dooger Mar 2018 #20
Going to Fox was his qualification to work for trump* Siwsan Mar 2018 #22
DeGenova and Victoria True Blue American Mar 2018 #58
When hes not low enough... nolabear Mar 2018 #6
Perhaps this new lawyer has wised up?? riversedge Mar 2018 #7
Is it diGenova? MontanaMama Mar 2018 #9
Does Alex Jones have a law degree? Girard442 Mar 2018 #10
Trump need a batshit crazy lawyer. You think Alex can get a Trump U law degree fast? nt Blue_true Mar 2018 #54
Right wing loon Judge Jeanine Pirro? workinclasszero Mar 2018 #55
Not when Judge Judy is available.... lindysalsagal Mar 2018 #70
so if his lawyers keep quiting will bluestarone Mar 2018 #12
Trump will need to get a public defender marylandblue Mar 2018 #14
I wonder if he asked for a retainer upfront Sanity Claws Mar 2018 #15
He found out he wasn't getting paid njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #21
Exactly!! Im a criminal lawyer and will represent almost anyone but Never Trump. Pepsidog Mar 2018 #49
Trump needs a criminal-lawyer Xipe Totec Mar 2018 #60
HaHa- love it. Actually Saul would be a better hire than nutty DeGenova Pepsidog Mar 2018 #62
Its not you. Its me. Marcuse Mar 2018 #16
Does he have the number for the public defender's office? exboyfil Mar 2018 #17
Why is tRump working so hard to control the news cycle? njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #19
That's the most important question. Because NEWS is the REAL thing. Facts are just bits and pieces. erronis Mar 2018 #50
Loved Stormys lawyers tweet of a dvd. Trump is shitting his pants. Pepsidog Mar 2018 #52
They probably found out they'll never be paid. briv1016 Mar 2018 #23
Here we go, yet again. Puzzler Mar 2018 #24
Maybe he got a wiff of some facts? eleny Mar 2018 #25
trump's behavior seems to me cilla4progress Mar 2018 #26
Yes. janx Mar 2018 #28
It's hard to imagine that a couple of nutbag shysters like DiGenova and Toensing The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #27
I thought that if he hired them, janx Mar 2018 #30
They'd still want to be paid. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #33
DeGenova was on Fox. The host said True Blue American Mar 2018 #59
Maybe he saw the hand writing on the wall padah513 Mar 2018 #29
If I register as a Republican and create a fake law degree for myself NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #32
Hope he collected in advance for billable hours Blue Owl Mar 2018 #34
Red flag on the security clearance? oasis Mar 2018 #35
Eventually he's going to end up at Bob Loblaw underpants Mar 2018 #36
There's only one lawyer who can save him now... OnDoutside Mar 2018 #38
If Hutz doesn't stick he'll be down to Gil LiberalLovinLug Mar 2018 #48
No matter how much you lie SonofDonald Mar 2018 #39
As soon as they meet with their client and realize he is insane. nt Laffy Kat Mar 2018 #40
NANCY GRACE may be available! n/t BamaRefugee Mar 2018 #41
He doesn't want a lawyer bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #43
"Wait, you wanted me to do actual legal work?!" SunSeeker Mar 2018 #44
Probably wanted paid in advance. Ohiya Mar 2018 #47
I said it yesterday and I stand by it. Hamilton Berger, next at bat. dameatball Mar 2018 #51
I wonder what laws crime boss Don insisted on him breaking? workinclasszero Mar 2018 #53
Im starting to think it may be Stormy and not Mueller who takes out Dotard. Pepsidog Mar 2018 #56
LOL! Downtown Hound Mar 2018 #57
Trump to Bolton... zentrum Mar 2018 #61
trump must of told him that he won't get paid up front gopiscrap Mar 2018 #63
So Trump announces he is hiring a new lawyer without first meeting with him? Asswipe Pepsidog Mar 2018 #65
aka the orange asshole is radioactive. Javaman Mar 2018 #67
*Hires the best people* !! Mad_Mongol Mar 2018 #68
"No one has been officially hired." Orsino Mar 2018 #69
Just because he hasn't practiced law for 20+ years shouldn't mean he should not .. Botany Mar 2018 #71
Conflict of interest - he and his wife are already representing others in the Mueller probe. haele Mar 2018 #72
Wouldn't put it past them. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #73
Problem could be that they didn't have or wouldn't provide enough inside info to help Trump wishstar Mar 2018 #80
I didn't think Scaramucci's record could be beaten. meadowlander Mar 2018 #75
Interesting his wife Victoria Toensing JustAnotherGen Mar 2018 #76
I would think some ahole KKK lawyer would be willing to do this. C Moon Mar 2018 #77
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #78

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. diGenova?
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:27 PM
Mar 2018
MANCHESTER, N.H. — President Trump hired the longtime Washington lawyer Joseph E. diGenova on Monday, adding an aggressive voice to his legal team who has pushed the theory on television that the F.B.I. and Justice Department framed Mr. Trump.

Mr. diGenova, a former United States attorney, is not expected to take a lead role. But he will serve as an outspoken player for the president as Mr. Trump has increased his attacks on the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. Trump broke over the weekend from the longstanding advice of some of his lawyers that he refrain from directly criticizing Mr. Mueller, a sign of his growing unease with the investigation.

“Former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia Joe DiGenova will be joining our legal team later this week,” said Jay Sekulow, one of the president’s personal lawyers. “I have worked with Joe for many years and have full confidence that he will be a great asset in our representation of the President.”

Mr. diGenova has endorsed the notion that a secretive group of F.B.I. agents concocted the Russia investigation as a way to keep Mr. Trump from becoming president. “There was a brazen plot to illegally exonerate Hillary Clinton and, if she didn’t win the election, to then frame Donald Trump with a falsely created crime,” he said on Fox News in January. He added, “Make no mistake about it: A group of F.B.I. and D.O.J. people were trying to frame Donald Trump of a falsely created crime.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/us/politics/joseph-digenova-trump-lawyer.html

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
37. Trump may dump his new Mueller probe lawyer after just one meeting: report
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 02:07 PM
Mar 2018
Trump may dump his new Mueller probe lawyer after just one meeting: report



https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/trump-might-ditch-new-lawyer-mueller-probe-first-meeting-report/

President Donald Trump this week seemed to hire controversial attorney Joseph diGenova, a regular Fox News guest who is known for spouting conspiracy theories about the “deep state” conspiring to frame the president for crimes.

However, CNN is now reporting that Trump isn’t sure diGenova and his wife, fellow lawyer and Fox News regular Victoria Toensing, are the right people for the job after meeting with them just once.

“The Thursday meeting was the first time the husband-and-wife legal team met with the President since the Monday announcement,” CNN reports. “One source said that while Trump liked their message, the President is not convinced they are right for the legal jobs.”

In particular, CNN’s sources say the Trump White House has concerns over whether “diGenova can reasonably claim a lack of conflict when his wife represents clients like Mark Corrallo, who has spoken to special counsel Robert Mueller’s team about how the President and his team responded to the revelations regarding the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting that Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign officials had with a group of Russians.”

erronis

(15,303 posts)
45. The Toensings are a bit of a problem in Vermont. Generally not a very "agreeable" bunch.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 02:49 PM
Mar 2018
https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/sunlight-and-scandal-gop-lawyer-stirs-up-vermont-politics/Content?oid=6725773

https://heavy.com/news/2017/06/brady-toensing-vermont-jane-sanders-bank-fraud-mother-victoria-joseph-digenova-trump/

Toensing is a partner in a law firm “which is headed by his mother Victoria Toensing and his stepfather Joseph DiGenova,” reported The VPO.org. Notes Politico: “His mother, Victoria Toensing, is one of the most committed conservative lawyers in Washington.”

Both Victoria Toensing and DiGenova have made frequent appearances on national television programs, often boosting Republican causes, and they were especially prolific during the Clinton years and investigations.

Victoria Toensing has represented a Benghazi “whistleblower,” and “was named Special Counsel by the U.S. House of Representatives to probe the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. In 2007, Toensing was retained by the New York State Senate to investigate then-Gov. Eliot Spitzer in the Troopergate matter,” her law firm bio says.

She also spent time as a prosecutor in the Reagan Justice Department. “As Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Criminal Division of the U.S. Justice Department from 1984-1988, she established Justice’s Terrorism Unit,” the bio says. “She managed the federal government’s efforts to bring to justice the terrorists responsible for the hijacking of TWA 847, the bombing of Pan Am 830, and the takeover of the cruise ship Achille Lauro. For her aggressive pursuit of terrorist Mohammed Rashid she was featured on the cover of The New York Times Magazine (April 21, 1991).”

She was also chief counsel for Republican senator Barry Goldwater.

In 1998, The Washington Post called Toensing and her husband, DiGenova, “The Power Couple at Scandal’s Vortex.” The Post described their criticism of the Clintons and wrote that DiGenova was a “white-hot media presence, politically connected lawyer and all-around agent provocateur. He and Toensing, also a battle-tested former prosecutor, keep popping up wherever there is trouble — as commentators, as investigators, as unnamed sources for reporters.”

The Post described how Victoria Toensing and DiGenova were involved in criticism over Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky. Victoria “Toensing was approached by an intermediary for a Secret Service agent who had supposedly seen something untoward involving President Clinton and the former intern. DiGenova was at the heart of a quickly retracted Dallas Morning News account of that matter,” the Post reported.

Wrote one political critic on Facebook: “Brady Toensing is the son of Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing, two ultra right wing loudmouths who were constantly on television cheering on the impeachment of Bill Clinton..”

Victoria Toensing is still involved in the public debate. She recently wrote a column for Fox News that opined that Trump Attorney General Jeff Sessions was being unfairly maligned.

The site Media Matters has gathered a round up of Victoria Toensing claims in the media, although that site is left leaning and focuses on exposing conservative bias.



saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
31. Sounds like Bannon's still
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:50 PM
Mar 2018

in the "catbird seat". Birds of a feather...

Mr. diGenova has endorsed the notion that a secretive group of F.B.I. agents concocted the Russia investigation as a way to keep Mr. Trump from becoming president.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
4. Crazy client?
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:26 PM
Mar 2018

I guess no amount of money can convince someone to put up with batshit.
Life's too short to work for assholes.

getagrip_already

(14,766 posts)
42. trump wants his roy cohn - only no good lawyer will knowingly lie for a client or
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 02:39 PM
Mar 2018

engage in illegal activities.

Trump likely laid out what he expected, and it was likely illegal, or at best, unethical for a lawyer to agree to.

That would explain the "not a good fit" language coming from both sides.

Trump wants a consigliere. But no lawyer with a good rep wants to be one for him.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
20. Guy who uses a cigar as a prop
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:36 PM
Mar 2018

Made me sick in the '90s when he took every opportunity to rip Clinton and excuse everything the Republicans did, along with his smug faced wife who also appeared on those programs regularly.

He always held an unlit cigar in his hand and waved it around. Insecurity.

I haven't seen him a long time so I assume he went to Fox.

Siwsan

(26,272 posts)
22. Going to Fox was his qualification to work for trump*
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:38 PM
Mar 2018

That's all that matters to him. Being a sycophant is a preferred skill.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
58. DeGenova and Victoria
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:18 PM
Mar 2018

Only appear on Fox. No decent cable station would have them.

Two of the nastiest people ever, with the expection of Dick and Lynne Chaney,plus Liz.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
55. Right wing loon Judge Jeanine Pirro?
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:10 PM
Mar 2018

That harridan nutcase would fit right in with Dump's DC circus.

bluestarone

(16,978 posts)
12. so if his lawyers keep quiting will
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:31 PM
Mar 2018

He ever see Mueller? or will THAT be his excuse? Can't meet with Mueller until he gets a new lawyer!! Could drag this on for long time

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
49. Exactly!! Im a criminal lawyer and will represent almost anyone but Never Trump.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:00 PM
Mar 2018

Any worthwhile lawyer will probably want a retainer of ten million or so up front. Trump doesn’t have that kind of money so no top notch lawyer will represent him and this lawyer is a clown. Trump probably thought this guy was crazier than him. I have represented some pretty unsavory people, drug dealers, rapists etc. but I draw the line at a traitorous President and I wouldn’t represent him for all the money in the world. I don’t want the stench of this vile creature anywhere near me.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
17. Does he have the number for the public defender's office?
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:34 PM
Mar 2018

Everyone is entitled to competent representation.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
50. That's the most important question. Because NEWS is the REAL thing. Facts are just bits and pieces.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:01 PM
Mar 2018

Maybe it (dump) thinks that everyone watches fux like it does, or maybe all his consort tell it that.ye

Or maybe it and its handlers don't really give-a-f. Drama to keep us occupied while the real occupying force is moving into place.

Hey, njhoneybadger, ask me sometime about how the honeybadger defends itself when under attack. I just read this somewhere...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,748 posts)
27. It's hard to imagine that a couple of nutbag shysters like DiGenova and Toensing
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:46 PM
Mar 2018

have standards, but maybe they do. Either that or they demanded an up-front retainer and couldn't get it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,748 posts)
33. They'd still want to be paid.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:50 PM
Mar 2018

And Faux Snooze already gives him all the ass-kissing he could ever ask for.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
59. DeGenova was on Fox. The host said
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:25 PM
Mar 2018

“ You are no longer a Fox News compntributor.”

Joe said,” Not yet,I have not been hired!”

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
32. If I register as a Republican and create a fake law degree for myself
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:50 PM
Mar 2018

I'd be happy to work as Trump's lawyer - if he paid me up front.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
39. No matter how much you lie
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 02:16 PM
Mar 2018

The truth will out, and in this case it's already out, no amount of bullshit can change the facts.

Maybe they've been insulated by waaay too much faux noise obfuscation of the facts and just had no idea how bad it really was until they crawled out from under the faux noise blanket and got a whiff of the real world.

Either that or the sight of dumpf wandering around the Oval Office in a stained bathrobe mumbling and bumping into things gave them the epiphany they sorely needed.

That and the overpowering smell of old cheeseburgers swept into piles under the resolute desk.....

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
53. I wonder what laws crime boss Don insisted on him breaking?
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:05 PM
Mar 2018

Or maybe he just got a good look at the insanity up close and personal and said, oh hell naw!

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
56. Im starting to think it may be Stormy and not Mueller who takes out Dotard.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:10 PM
Mar 2018

Wonder what is in the dvd. Probably something so humiliating that Trump knows if it gets out even his most ardent supporters will leave him. I think Trump is so concerned about the Stormy stuff that he will risk starting a trade war and/or real war. Trump knows he is impervious to almost everything except something so deviant even his hardcore supporters couldn’t tolerate so he is fighting back in fear like an injured animal.

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
63. trump must of told him that he won't get paid up front
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:38 PM
Mar 2018

meaning he's likely to be stiffed by the orange shit gibbon

Mad_Mongol

(86 posts)
68. *Hires the best people* !!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 04:03 PM
Mar 2018
Such a STABLE GENIUS !!

I guess diGenova got off his conspiracy couch and actually remembered enough litigation law to realize that the Trumpster is a hot reeking mess.

Hires the BEST people !!

LMAO

Botany

(70,522 posts)
71. Just because he hasn't practiced law for 20+ years shouldn't mean he should not ..
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 04:07 PM
Mar 2018

.... start now against the best of the best of the best lawyers in America.

haele

(12,660 posts)
72. Conflict of interest - he and his wife are already representing others in the Mueller probe.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 04:10 PM
Mar 2018

According to spouse, there's a growing theory that the reason he and his wife was called in to "discuss" taking Trump on as a client was a smokescreen to find out what was going on with the investigation in regards to their clients, and for them to coordinate their "defense" with the White House's defense.

Haele

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
80. Problem could be that they didn't have or wouldn't provide enough inside info to help Trump
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 04:35 PM
Mar 2018

They may have realized they could get into legal trouble representing him since he probably did expect to find out what was going on with Mark Corallo and Sam Clovis and Erik Prince or others who are being investigated or have been interviewed by Mueller.

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
78. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 04:31 PM
Mar 2018

This fucking guy is so far over the top the only way to stop him is the crew with white suits and nets.

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