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bobbieinok

(12,858 posts) Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:50 PM Mar 2018

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Isn't David Hogg's fist salute the salute the 1968 black Olympic winners gave in Mexico City?

What RWNJs are calling a 'Nazi salute'?

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Isn't David Hogg's fist salute the salute the 1968 black Olympic winners gave in Mexico City? (Original Post) bobbieinok Mar 2018 OP

Yes, it sure is the same salute! democratisphere Mar 2018 #1

Looks like it to me. GP6971 Mar 2018 #2

I just see it as a symbol of DEFIANCE Skittles Mar 2018 #3

Yes. It is the Black Power salute of the 60s/70s WhiteTara Mar 2018 #4

Maybe poking fun at this bottomofthehill Mar 2018 #5

This is bullshit. Many political entities throughout history have used the fist salute. YOHABLO Mar 2018 #6

Sieg Heil salute does not involve clenched fist like Hogg did... Pachamama Mar 2018 #7

Used by many. Igel Mar 2018 #11

How did they miss that? Bob Loblaw Mar 2018 #8

It shows how scripted their response is - not a natural response at all. yardwork Mar 2018 #9

Uhhhh RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #10

Seig Heil PaulX2 Apr 2018 #14

Thank you, saving that pic KelleyKramer Apr 2018 #20

I think many pundits are too young to recognize the similairity to the Olympics salute bobbieinok Mar 2018 #12

It's a power salute, Black Power nocoincidences Mar 2018 #13

Wonderful pic. oasis Apr 2018 #18

Nazi salute? area51 Apr 2018 #15

It's also the salute Trump gives at most of his cult events. Vinca Apr 2018 #16

Doubtful oberliner Apr 2018 #17

It was probably something he'd seen on TV FarCenter Apr 2018 #19

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)

1. Yes, it sure is the same salute!

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:54 PM

Mar 2018

Updated version: Power to ALL the people!

https://goo.gl/images/FZKH2L

GP6971

(31,207 posts)

2. Looks like it to me.

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:58 PM

Mar 2018

And the salute in 68 had nothing to do with Nazis.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)

3. I just see it as a symbol of DEFIANCE

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:59 PM

Mar 2018

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)

4. Yes. It is the Black Power salute of the 60s/70s

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:02 PM

Mar 2018

I recognized that right away--Nazis hold their hands/fingers straight up

bottomofthehill

(8,347 posts)

5. Maybe poking fun at this

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:03 PM

Mar 2018

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-gAyE-Q2Jg/WqG5ID3GQYI/AAAAAAAAqdE/PIB7wU4muekjSNvPJb8FANpnHOphZWJWACHMYCw/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Charlton%2BHeston%252C%2BCold%2BDead%2BHands%2Bspeech-8x6_thumb%255B38%255D?imgmax=800

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)

6. This is bullshit. Many political entities throughout history have used the fist salute.

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:04 PM

Mar 2018

It just means solidarity. That's all.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)

7. Sieg Heil salute does not involve clenched fist like Hogg did...

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:09 PM

Mar 2018

But the Black Power salute did involved clenched fist...

It is utterly ridiculous that the far right or critics of Hogg are even suggesting that his fist in air was a Nazi salute....

Frankly, I saw it as a “fight on” cheer....like my coach did for our sports team when we were about to go fight a team in Lacrosse....

Igel

(35,356 posts)

11. Used by many.

Reply to Pachamama (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:30 PM

Mar 2018

"Fight on" is typically a fist pump, not a raised fist held aloft.

Black power salute.

Spanish civil war communist salute.

The Russians in the Donbas fighting the Ukrainian "fascists" and targeting Jews, non-Orthodox Xians, and ethnic minorities used it.

It's also the white power salute.

I've seen it on posters that my high school kids make for history class. It's typically working-class solidarity. Between Holocaust slogans and International Worker symbolism, they're hitting all their marks. (They make missteps, but those aren't even noticed.)

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)

8. How did they miss that?

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:09 PM

Mar 2018

Wouldn't that have greater hate appeal for them than the Nazi salute?

yardwork

(61,709 posts)

9. It shows how scripted their response is - not a natural response at all.

Reply to Bob Loblaw (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:18 PM

Mar 2018

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)

10. Uhhhh

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:21 PM

Mar 2018

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)

14. Seig Heil

Reply to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 02:25 AM

Apr 2018

Or something like that lorrie....

KelleyKramer

(8,982 posts)

20. Thank you, saving that pic

Reply to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 03:47 PM

Apr 2018

Forgot about that at the RNC convention, very good point

Thanks for the reminder!

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)

12. I think many pundits are too young to recognize the similairity to the Olympics salute

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:35 PM

Mar 2018

Reminds me of seeing a tv report about some demonstration in Europe in the 80s. The reporter said none of his fellows were old enough to recognize that the demonstrators were singing the 'anthem' of the US Civil Rights Movement of the 60s - 'We shall overcome'.
..

nocoincidences

(2,230 posts)

13. It's a power salute, Black Power

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:38 PM

Mar 2018

Feminist Power, now passed to our children.

oasis

(49,408 posts)

18. Wonderful pic.

Reply to nocoincidences (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 10:14 AM

Apr 2018

area51

(11,920 posts)

15. Nazi salute?

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 02:44 AM

Apr 2018

How 'bout a plain old nazi?

Vinca

(50,304 posts)

16. It's also the salute Trump gives at most of his cult events.

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 07:48 AM

Apr 2018

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

17. Doubtful

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 07:55 AM

Apr 2018

It's just a general symbol of defiance.

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)

19. It was probably something he'd seen on TV

Reply to bobbieinok (Original post)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 10:57 AM

Apr 2018

Ascribing a full comprehension of all cultural and political antecedents of its symbolic use is probably going too far.

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