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They've been stealing votes and elections since 2000

2004 and we were so frustrated because Keith O was the ONLY MSM who had a clue?

I remember the days of TruthIsAll, and William River Pitt and many others, posting multiple times a day showing statistical whoppers, crazy political shenanigans in Ohio, the Mitofsky exit polling suddenly posting exact matching to the returns, all that and only Keithey Keith on the beat. Yeah, John Conyers's "what went wrong in Ohio" report was like a LeCarre novel to us back then. The lack of media coverage of the vote tallying tampering felt like the suffocation of a battered witness. I truly hope this NY Times report resounds loud, I do. But Lordy, I can not say I'll hold my breath, you know?

electoral votes? Twelve other senators did too; Wyden was one who spoke out, and a whole bunch of reps from the Black Causus, but it was just a formality really to go on record with no legal weight.

Congress Ratifies Bush Victory After Challenge

By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and JAMES DAOJAN. 7, 2005

WASHINGTON, Jan. 6 - Congress officially ratified President Bush's election victory on Thursday, but not before Democrats lodged a formal challenge to the electoral votes from Ohio, forcing an extraordinary two-hour debate that began the 109th Congress on a sharp note of partisan acrimony.

It was only the second such challenge to a presidential race since 1877. Even the bitter contest in 2000 between President Bush and Al Gore did not produce a formal challenge to the results from Florida, the site of a 36-day standoff. Although House members objected, no senator joined in, as is required under federal law.

But on Thursday, a single senator -- Barbara Boxer, a California Democrat who was sworn in Tuesday for a third term -- joined Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Democrat of Ohio, in objecting to Ohio's 20 electoral votes for Mr. Bush, citing voting irregularities in the state.

The move turned what would have otherwise been a polite ceremony into a political and historical drama. Mrs. Boxer said she had acted "to cast the light of truth on a flawed system which must be fixed now."

Instead of holding a courteous joint session to certify the election, lawmakers were forced to retreat to their separate chambers for two hours of debate and a vote on the challenge. Democrats, nearly all of whom conceded that Mr. Bush was the rightful winner, said the move cast a needed spotlight on voting rights. Republicans called it waste of time.

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In the end, the House voted 267 to 31 against the challenge. In the Senate, where the vote was 74 to 1, Mrs. Boxer stood alone.

"I think this is the first time in my life I ever voted alone in the United States Senate, and I have to tell you, I think it was the right thing to do," Mrs. Boxer said afterward, adding that she believed she forced the Republican leadership to listen to concerns about voting rights.

The election in Ohio, one of the most fiercely contested states, has been seized on by the Green Party, liberal Democrats and advocates of changing the voting system because of its long lines, lack of uniform policies on provisional ballots and the allocation of voting machines.

In many ways, the debate came about because of the relentless efforts of a small group of third-party activists, liberal lawyers, Internet muckrakers and civil rights groups, who have been arguing since Election Day that the Ohio vote was rigged for Mr. Bush.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/07/politics/congress-ratifies-bush-victory-after-challenge.html

of the vote ratification! It was heroic, bracing stuff. What I still haven't understood all these years later is why nothing ever came of those revelations. I mean nobody forced Diebold out of business, and more elections came and went without much meaningful public discussion, much less reform. Is it just too horrifying to acknowledge that there's a problem, so better to ignore it and hope for the best? Seriously, I cannot understand what consequences of talking federal election reform could be worse than letting hack after hack happen.

They were the fall guy for the GOP.

one of the most important issues today. tRump will win again if votes are not verifiable.

Any machine should read a bubble sheet and the election shouldn’t be official until the bubble sheet votes are counted and tabulated

Until a jurisdiction has a machine that has a paper trail, they should use paper, period

Paper gives a back up but the machines and counting programs can still be messed with.

But nothing is official until the paper ballots are counted by hand.

If the vote flipping is going to be caught, the rooskies and their repugnant goon allies may not bother.

The world has changed a lot since 2004. Everybody has had a hacked charge on their debit or credit card. Damn near every company or government agency has had their data breached. Please tell me the state and federal experts that examine all the equipment we vote on. The idea that it hasn't happened, is laughable. It would be so hard at my precinct with a bunch of tablets manned by senior citizen volunteers.

tRump said we need paper ballots, so we must use paper ballots. Period.

for a long time.So much resistance. The election was stolen!!!

that these machines -- optiscans, DREs, central tabulators, etc. do not meet the burden of proof that our votes will be counted as cast.

It is highly likely that elections officials at city, county, and state level feel threatened if they try to speak out about the nontransparent privatized voting gear that contains proprietary code -- there is a lot to be gained/lost with stolen elections. HAVA just received another $380 million in the recently passed budget.

This is crazy!

Let's just pretend we have a democracy.