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pnwmom

(108,990 posts) Fri Apr 6, 2018, 11:59 PM Apr 2018

Federal Judge: AR-15 not protected by 2nd amendment; may be banned.

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BREAKING: A federal judge just declared that the AR-15 and other assault weapons fall outside the scope of the Second Amendment and may be banned

3:17 PM - Apr 6, 2018

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Federal Judge: AR-15 not protected by 2nd amendment; may be banned. (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2018 OP

Good start Hekate Apr 2018 #1

A Reagan Judge Just Upheld an Assault Weapons Ban - Using a Scalia Opinion dalton99a Apr 2018 #2

Bloomberg article about the decision ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #3

Well, darn. Glad I dont live in MA. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #4

the link explains some cvoogt Apr 2018 #5

Hekate

(90,766 posts)

1. Good start

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:01 AM

Apr 2018

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)

2. A Reagan Judge Just Upheld an Assault Weapons Ban - Using a Scalia Opinion

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:10 AM

Apr 2018

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19704196/massachusetts-assault-weapons-ban-upheld/
A Reagan Judge Just Upheld an Assault Weapons Ban—Using a Scalia Opinion
A funny bit of good news.
By Charles P. Pierce
Apr 6, 2018

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)

3. Bloomberg article about the decision

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:13 AM

Apr 2018

Federal Judge Upholds Massachusetts’s Assault-Weapons Ban

Here is the part about basing the ruling on Scalia's decision. Note, this is what the RWers are arguing, that the SCOTUS already ruled on this and the federal judge's decision will be overturned.

Young, nominated by former President Ronald Reagan, backed his decision by quoting the late conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who wrote the majority opinion in a 2008 decision that overturned Washington’s ban on hand guns. The landmark ruling expanded individual gun rights but said the right isn’t unlimited.

"Weapons that are most useful in military service -- M-16 rifles and the like" aren’t protected by the Second Amendment and "may be banned," Young quoted Scalia as saying, referring to the automatic rifle popular with the military. The AR-15 is similar to an M-16, Young said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/massachusetts-s-ban-on-assault-weapons-upheld-by-federal-judge

aikoaiko

(34,182 posts)

4. Well, darn. Glad I dont live in MA.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:27 AM

Apr 2018

I’m interested in reading more about the rational for declaring the AR and M16 “similar”. All guns are similar in one respect or another.

The ability to easily switch to full auto seems to be a significant difference to me.

cvoogt

(949 posts)

5. the link explains some

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:45 AM

Apr 2018

The [link:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/massachusetts-s-ban-on-assault-weapons-upheld-by-federal-judge] goes into some detail, including this nice line :

"The AR-15’s present day popularity is not constitutionally material,"

. (U.S. District Judge William Young)

Yes, AR-15 and M-16s are not the same, yada yada, bla bla. But an AR-15 can be used to kill lots of innocent people very quickly. They just don't belong in civilian hands, no matter how fun they may be at the range or ... hunting deer ... or... ?? I actually can't think of any good uses for these boom sticks.

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