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Initech

(100,080 posts)
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:19 PM Apr 2018

What is it about David Hogg that drives the gun fanatics crazy?

If you really want to see the worst of Twitter - just read some of the vile shit that gets posted in the comments section of his tweets. Some truly awful, vile stuff. This is the scary part of gun culture that we have to deal with in election after election. There's entire websites now dedicated to stalking his every move and every tweet. This is a new low for humanity honestly. I thought we hit rock bottom as a country when Donald Trump was elected. But now I'm starting to think that the way the Parkland victims are getting treated is America hitting rock bottom. But what is it about this kid that drives them completely bonkers? I want to know. I truly fear for this kids' safety right now.

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What is it about David Hogg that drives the gun fanatics crazy? (Original Post) Initech Apr 2018 OP
Articulate, intelligent malaise Apr 2018 #1
THIS spanone Apr 2018 #32
He is everything they are not and never will be Phoenix61 Apr 2018 #2
He Is Fearless PaulX2 Apr 2018 #18
....and he's EFFECTIVE. Kittycow Apr 2018 #27
Culture of the intermet vercetti2021 Apr 2018 #3
They like to create "bad guys" that they can rail against oberliner Apr 2018 #4
They're jealous. He has character and morals BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #5
There is no explaining the deplorables. Scurrilous Apr 2018 #6
No I've given up on trying to decipher their logic. Initech Apr 2018 #21
His dad was FBI. redwitch Apr 2018 #7
He is the future and they are scared shitless marylandblue Apr 2018 #8
Good answer. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #11
The gun nuts have got away with too much shit for far too long. Initech Apr 2018 #22
the right-wing masses are just following the lead of the propagandists, as usual. unblock Apr 2018 #9
Young white guy who won't play their game. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #10
They cannot find a . . . peggysue2 Apr 2018 #12
David said it: "We will outlive you." CTyankee Apr 2018 #13
Some of them are probably Russian trolls and being paid by stolen Russian wealth Farmer-Rick Apr 2018 #14
David Hogg is a young man who is....... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #15
He and Emma Gonzolez are going to be the next leaders of this country and will certainly bring CTyankee Apr 2018 #16
Yuppers. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #17
And those two teenagers terrify the gun nuts. Squinch Apr 2018 #20
They are the future. Time's up. CTyankee Apr 2018 #34
He speaks like a young Ralph Nader. kentuck Apr 2018 #19
He scares the shit out of them. He's changing hearts and minds like no one they've seen before. flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #23
Yeah that's what I think is making their heads explode. Initech Apr 2018 #31
all of the above. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2018 #24
He is a leader with a following something none of them will ever be. He makes things happen. wasupaloopa Apr 2018 #25
The fact he doesn't get intimidated by gun nuts. marble falls Apr 2018 #26
Obviously envy vlyons Apr 2018 #28
Hes charismatic. notdarkyet Apr 2018 #29
A young King David the giant slayer. safeinOhio Apr 2018 #30
They are bullies tasp Apr 2018 #33
Because he sounds smart shadowmayor Apr 2018 #35
I dunno Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #36
Because in their minds, he should be on their side Downtown Hound Apr 2018 #37

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
2. He is everything they are not and never will be
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:21 PM
Apr 2018

Intelligent, articulate, disciplined, and the icing on the cake... a natural born leader.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
27. ....and he's EFFECTIVE.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 09:29 PM
Apr 2018

The NRA and the gun aficionados who are of the mindless lemmings contingent aren't used to having a successful pushback against them.

It's giving them a sadz

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
3. Culture of the intermet
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:22 PM
Apr 2018

Where you can say whatever and hide behind a computer. Look at sites like 4chan and reddit. Where all the nuts love to hump their guns and every wacky ass conspiracy theory that Alex Jones throws at them. Rabid animals with nothing better to do.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. They like to create "bad guys" that they can rail against
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:22 PM
Apr 2018

When they see someone getting attention for making sense about gun control, they lash out.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
5. They're jealous. He has character and morals
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:23 PM
Apr 2018

and tells the truth. They hate those qualities since they lack them.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
7. His dad was FBI.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:33 PM
Apr 2018

These people hate anyone respectable. David Hogg is a wonderful young man, I hope he knows how respected he is by decent people.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
8. He is the future and they are scared shitless
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:35 PM
Apr 2018

Smart, wealthy, articulate, white young male. 30 years ago, he would have been a College Republican heading for a career on Wall Street. Now he launched a progressive social movement overnight.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Good answer.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:38 PM
Apr 2018

And they truly have no answers to his points. There is a certain small segment of the US population that is truly delusional about their guns, and they vote and contact their representatives.

And these representatives are well aware of how much money the NRA contributes to politicians.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
22. The gun nuts have got away with too much shit for far too long.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 09:12 PM
Apr 2018

They need to be taken down a peg or two. And maybe Mr. Hogg is just the guy to do it.

unblock

(52,251 posts)
9. the right-wing masses are just following the lead of the propagandists, as usual.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:36 PM
Apr 2018

the propagandists decided that they very much wanted his voice silenced, because it wasn't in their control and it wasn't spouting the pro-gun rhetoric they wanted.

so they smeared him and all those outspoken kids with whack-a-doodle idiocy like them being "paid protesters" and "crisis actors" and whatever.

and their well-trained sheeple just eat it up because, well, they're very well-trained.


this is the scary dynamic that afflicts roughly one-third of our nation, and unless we are strongly united against them, all is lost.

peggysue2

(10,830 posts)
12. They cannot find a . . .
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:39 PM
Apr 2018

line of attack that works without making themselves look like soulless ghouls. Look what happened to Laura Ingraham? She has said plenty of vile things before but she went after Hogg, a 17-18 year old kid, a mass-shooting survivor, and the reaction was immediate, massive and commercially punishing.

People have had it with the Right's BS on guns. This stuff has been building for years. The Parkland kids became a flashpoint. Add the fact that the kids are smart, articulate and media savvy and these goons have met their match. It's driving the crazies . . . even more crazy.

Farmer-Rick

(10,184 posts)
14. Some of them are probably Russian trolls and being paid by stolen Russian wealth
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:44 PM
Apr 2018

The Rusian bots and trolls have gotten better at looking like real people. Putin has no problem with draining Russia dry to pay for what he wants.

Remember how all those anti Hillary trolls seemed like regular folks?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
15. David Hogg is a young man who is.......
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:50 PM
Apr 2018

Articulate, passionate, factual, and threatening to others who use propaganda to get their views across.

David Hogg's ability to energize and mobilize his peers all across this country has the NRA and Republican Party scared.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. He and Emma Gonzolez are going to be the next leaders of this country and will certainly bring
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 09:01 PM
Apr 2018

the gun industry to heel..

No more mister niceguy...

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
23. He scares the shit out of them. He's changing hearts and minds like no one they've seen before.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 09:14 PM
Apr 2018

And he's changing minds AGAINST them. He's a game-changer. He's bringing America toward the tipping point on guns.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
31. Yeah that's what I think is making their heads explode.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 09:39 PM
Apr 2018

Is that people's minds are finally starting to be changed and people are finally starting to wake up to what the NRA is doing, and being told "no" is what is terrifying the gun humpers. I for one am loving watching their meltdown. But I hope they stay on social media and don't escalate it.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
25. He is a leader with a following something none of them will ever be. He makes things happen.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 09:23 PM
Apr 2018

They on the other hand are followers who need company just to say what they think.

tasp

(14 posts)
33. They are bullies
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 10:07 PM
Apr 2018

they only way they know to make themselves feel better is to belittle and threaten other people. Especially if the person is threatening to their way of making themselves feel tougher and bully people.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
35. Because he sounds smart
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:58 PM
Apr 2018

He speaks clearly, expresses his thoughts on a level that demonstrates a command of the English language and sounds smarter than the folks (and many of their children) who've been yammerin' at the right about the second amendment over the past several decades. He sounds more adult than the adults leading the NRA and other pro-gun sites. His ability to think reflects their inability to do so, and deep down these gun lovers feel it whether or not they can actually understand it. That's in part what makes them so pissed off. Plus the fact that they are really afraid that Uncle Sam is coming for their guns and they'll be naked when the pending race-war, invasion, or rapture begins.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
36. I dunno
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 03:03 PM
Apr 2018

but the stuff that I'm seeing out there is horrific. One of my friends commented on a FB post with a picture of him asking the chilling question of "What would you do if he (Hogg) showed up at your door asking for your gun" and it showed up on my feed. Many of the responses were, predictably, threats of violence. My attempt to inject a tiny bit of sanity into the thread.......did not work. I ended up reporting the post to FB but AFAIK it's still up.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
37. Because in their minds, he should be on their side
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 03:18 PM
Apr 2018

Young white male, from an FBI family, grew up in material comfort and privilege, and yet instead of embracing them or being indifferent, he's the victim of the crap that they've been shoving down America's throat for decades. Basically, they have no defense against him. He looks like them, so they can't dismiss him as an uppity person of color, he talks like them (actually better than most of them) so they can't dismiss him as an uneducated imbecile, he's relatively clean cut and has an retired FBI agent as a father, so they can't dismiss him as some anarchy loving, anti-American liberal, and while he may not be an expert on the ins and outs of an AR-15 (or maybe he is, I don't know but the point is it's irrelevant) no one can say he does not know what it's like to be a victim of gun violence.

Basically he takes all of their talking points and thunder away from them and turns it on them. The central argument of the NRA for decades has been that we need to be heavily armed to protect our picture perfect, freedom loving, all-American lifestyles from the sinister (colored) menaces that are waiting out there to take it all away. David Hogg is exactly the type of kid that they would love to hold up as a reason why we need to guns to protect. But in stead of protecting him, their policies turned him into a victim. By simply being who he is, he's exposing just how full of shit they really are.

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