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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump Tower didn't have any sort of alarm system to warn residents, or even text alerts
and the front desk wasn't answering calls from residents.
But Michael Cohen texted a friend of his there to warn him to get out.
Tweet from Josh Marshall
Link to tweet
referring to this section of a NY Times story:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/07/nyregion/trump-tower-fire.html
Dennis Shields, a resident who said he lived on the 42nd floor, described the scene.
You could smell the smoke and you could hear things falling like through the vents, he said. It just smelled like sulfur.
He said there were no orders to evacuate but he received a text message from Mr. Trumps lawyer, Michael D. Cohen.
Mr. Shields, who said he grew up with Mr. Cohen, continued: He said, Are you in the building? I said, Yes. He said, You better get out ASAP. Thats how I knew to get out, otherwise Id still be in there.
Liberty Belle
(9,535 posts)everything he touches seems to turn to flames.
It sounds like they're lucky a lot of people weren't incinerated. I hope NYC throws the book at them for whatever codes they violated.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)brush
(53,785 posts)to even be able to sell their units now that the world knows this.
trump's going to have to spend some money now to install sprinklers as repairing the damage will be a major alteration and thus require sprinklers to bring it up to code.
The banks here won't lend him money.
Wonder where he's going to get it?
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)...Trump tweeted his building was "well built" - yeah, right.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But as the OP pointed out, fixing the fire damage should be a major renovation, which should void the Guiliani exception and require installation of sprinklers.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Sater also grew up together...but at any rate, glad Mr. Shields was properly alerted and got outta that shithole ASAP -
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)highplainsdem
(49,000 posts)had to declare bankruptcy a couple of years ago.
See this DU thread and the article it links to:
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210463276
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)..neglect of his building safety or for reasons of covering his criminal tracks.
What a horror.
Wasn't there another fire in Trump Tower not long ago?
highplainsdem
(49,000 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)misanthrope
(7,417 posts)came from Chinese drywall heating up.
RainCaster
(10,883 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)snip
Brooklyn-based LawCash whose CEO, Dennis Shields, reconciled with Frankel last year and its rivals make money by advancing plaintiffs a portion of their potential proceeds and charging hefty interest fees when its repaid.
Court papers allege that LawCash, which boasts of having provided thousands of clients with lawsuit funding advances, has charged its clients interest rates as high as 124 percent.
Thats nearly five times the 25 percent limit set by New York state, which outlaws rates any higher under the criminal usury law.
Yep, sounds like litigation heaven, and right up the Vohen/Trump/Sater alley, eh??
https://nypost.com/2018/01/02/how-firms-are-getting-rich-on-the-surest-money-grab-in-nyc/
Yep, sounds like litigation heaven, and right up the Cohen/Trump/Sater alley, eh?
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)1,500 square foot, two bedroom dump in Trump's fire trap? Sounds like some money laundering was going on there! I know it's expensive to live in NYC, but that seems WAY over the top to me.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)...Buy Trump Renters Insurance-Ooops NotCovered!!
Cha
(297,285 posts)Wonder what the Fire Dept has to say about this?
Fucking trump will say it's "Fake news"
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)The family of the dead man seem to have a pretty good negligence case.
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)on Twitter that Trump was opposed to sprinklers and never installed them even though this violates NYC building code.
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Never did hear about whos offices were burnt.
no_hypocrisy
(46,119 posts)Built to save money.
Electrical fire.
Compromised construction to allow a fire to spread.
Fire started on upper floors, making it difficult to put out.
No equipment like sprinklers installed.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)and pisses all over his tenants with cheap shit so they burn up and die. How republican is that?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)becomes kryptonite to buyers and investors. Not worth the risk and Trump loses millions.
Blue Owl
(50,407 posts)n/t
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)many are saying.
treestar
(82,383 posts)especially for a tall building.
GrapesOfWrath
(524 posts)Why am I not surprised?
Trump Tower fire is second 2018 blaze in sprinkler-free residential tower
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Last Updated Apr 8, 2018 7:30 AM EDT
The fire on the 50th floor New York City's Trump Tower that left 67-year-old Todd Brassner dead and six firefighters injured was the second fire in the building in 2018. President Trump's centerpiece Manhattan skyscraper opened in 1984, but does not have sprinklers on its residential floors, a measure required in new buildings since 1999. President Trump, then a private citizen and property developer, lobbied to try and prevent the mandate at the time.
New York City in 1999 became last big city in the nation to require sprinklers, according to the New York Daily News. Under the 1999 legislation, buildings constructed before then were only required to have sprinklers if they underwent gut renovations.
According to The New York Times, Mr. Trump was one of the developers in the late 1990s who lobbied against sprinklers in buildings. He then recanted once the legislation passed with grandfathering provisions that meant existing buildings did not need to install them, saying that he understood they made residents "feel safer." FDNY Commissioner Daniel Nigro said on Saturday that there is extra fire protection at Trump Tower when Mr. Trump is there.
[link:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tower-fire-second-2018-blaze-in-sprinkler-free-residence/|