I remember at the time most people I knew thought he didn't call police because he was driving drunk.

I saw something about this on a new/talk show but didn't pay much attention since it's long past now. I'd rather they let him RIP, as I think he tried to make his amends.

I refuse to watch it and hope the dishonest, hate-filled propagandists involved in producing this rancid turd are never permitted to make another film again.

Leader. Saw they have come out with ‘the real truth of all JFKs women.” Deflect, deflect.

When Republicans could have given these film makers enough material in just the last 49 hours.

I'm not referring to Ted's kids.

Left Bavaria to avoid his military service. After living with his brother and working as a barber for a while he moved to the Northwest. He made his fortune operating boom-town restaurants and boarding houses in Seattle and the mining town Monte Cristo, and in the Klondike Gold Rush.

That would be more to the moment, but I don't think we'll be seeing Trump Towering Inferno anytime soon ...

Oh my God, Democrats have scandals too!!!

Wiener, Clinton, Edwards come to mind.

Only her hairdresser knows for sure!

And just what about all those inexplicable relationships between the Benghazi conspiracy and the assassination of Abraham Lincoln? We thought about it so you don't have to! You won't want to miss our blockbuster exposé: The Pizza Parlor Files! Tomorrow night!

I haven't seen the ads but at this point I don't need to see them to know exactly what this is and who's behind it. We've been to this rodeo many times.

about President Obama. BULLSHITE

Nobody is left who could tell us exactly how it happened

One dark night, he drove off an unsafe narrow old bridge, almost before he was completely on it, perhaps for no reason except it was angled to the road on the shore and still without guardrails then, though rails were added later, and the car sank in the water

So it was a tragedy, like every other death in an automotive accident -- there have been at least a million and a half, maybe two million, of those in the years since then

--that wasn't reported to the police for something like 10 hours. The diver who brought her up thought she had survived for hours in an air pocket, slowly suffocating while waiting for help that wasn't coming.

I wonder if things have changed that much since then.

Tag team.

But I also like the idea that a flawed man (and he was that) was also able to do some good.

Too often we lock folks up and throw away the key (literally or figuratively, as in, you can't hold this job or have this career...ever.....because of what you did).

Kennedy found some level of redemption (doing good in his career) - in part - because he was a Kennedy (money and education behind him).

I've worked with so many folks who have no money and very little in the way of education. When we toss them in prison, we expect that they will never really be redeemed (we hope when they get out, they tow the line. But we don't expect to look up to them, in the future).

So, I think there are lessons about redemption (redeeming ones life), in this story - too.

many decades. He undoubtedly would have been President, maybe as early as 1972, and he would have been one of the greats. I'm sure that he regretted Chappaquiddick every day of his life after that.

So many of our institutions that should be benefiting the poor--mental health, justice, etc.--need to be restructured. It will take decades of Democratic administrations AND control of Congress to do all that is needed. Unfortunately, the way the system is set up, progress is limited.

Tag team?

I have no idea. Do you?

we can all speculate about the cause of death; however what is a fact is that Senator Kennedy didn't report the accident for 10 hours. Whether she could have been saved or not, failing to report an accident (especially when there is a dead body in the car) is something most of us wouldn't get away with.

We can't discuss facts here? We can't admit that one of our heroes did something inexplicable? We can't acknowledge that this particular liberal hero was a beneficiary of a particular privilege that only a minuscule number of people have?

There is a huge difference between the FACT that I posted and what passes for "facts" on Fox News.

...here's a different scenario:
A BBC Inside Story episode, "Chappaquiddick," broadcast on the 25th anniversary of Kopechne's death, advanced a theory that Kennedy and Kopechne had left the party in Kennedy's car, but when Kennedy saw an off-duty policeman in his patrol car, he got out of the car, fearing the political consequences of being discovered by the police late at night with an attractive woman. According to the theory, Kennedy then returned to the party, and Kopechne, unfamiliar both with the large car and the local area, drove the wrong way and crashed off the bridge. The episode argued that the explanation would account for Kennedy's lack of concern the next morning, as he was unaware of the crash, and for the forensic evidence of the injuries to Kopechne being inconsistent with her sitting in the passenger seat.[61]

Writer Jack Olsen had earlier advanced a similar theory in his book The Bridge at Chappaquiddick, published early in 1970. Olsen's book was the first full-length examination of the case. Olsen wrote that Kopechne's shorter height (she was 5 ft 2 in (1.57 m), a foot (30 cm) shorter than Kennedy) could have accounted for her possibly not even seeing the bridge, as she drove Kennedy's car over unfamiliar roads, at night, with no external lighting, after she had consumed several alcoholic drinks at the party both had attended. Olsen wrote that Kopechne normally drove a smaller Volkswagen model car, which was much lighter and easier to handle than Kennedy's larger Oldsmobile.[27]

For a deeper dive:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident

but, is contradicted by the Senator's own statement. When he made that statement he would have been very aware that he was kissing his presidential aspiration good bye. He could have claimed he wasn't in the car (she took it without his knowledge, he lent it to her to get back to her hotel, whatever) and that wouldn't have implicated him in the crime of leaving the scene of an accident in which a person had died. By the time he made the statement, he knew what had happened, and certainly was smart enough to foresee the consequences of his statement.

For example, they have the grandfather calling for an alibi. He had actually had a stroke that left him unable to communicate.

And the timing is odd, with a young Kennedy male once again making a mark as a politician.

that work on this movie started years ago. It would be interesting to know who provided the financing. Byron Allen had something to do with it. Don't know his politics.

most of us would not.

you will probably be attacked for posting that.

But, yeah, can you imagine what would have happened to a poor person who did that?

It happened a long time now: Mary Jo and Ted have both been dead for years

The creeps are trying to smear Joe with the actions of his great uncle. Joe is squeaky clean so they have to pull out something.

are a danger to republicans, especially the smart, eloquent Joe. Somehow, this will be his fault.

The current young Joe Kennedy.

I don’t know about the political leanings of the film makers but this is coming off as a salacious smear against the Kennedy name (one already well documented)when a bright young Kennedy star is on the horizon.
They (or someone)are scared of him.
And Caroline.

Her house is about a mile from mine.

There is an active topic on my town's forum on Facebook

People are calling Ted Kennedy all sorts of names. Retired cops are weighing on him saying he is guilty and should have stood trial.

they NEVER stop smearing - they have proved it can payoff decades later now.

Can't remember where, but a short blurb suggested that it is about protective machinery. Most people in similar situations do face consequences. In that sense it explains the long-standing protective mechanism that begins with young men considered to have great potential. Whether the producers have an agenda or not, it is still a story of affluenza.

Facing facts about his irresponsible behavior does not mean anyone is attacking his memory.

He was a great senator.

The story begs some useful questions that even he might have entertained at some point. How much talent and good work has been lost when a youth who are not surrounded by enough wealth or power to get them out of a minor drug charge? It's a story relevant to recent events and how we have been rethinking with me too.

Is he saying this is a hit job to affect the future of U.S. Representative Joseph Kennedy III (D-MA),
a great-nephew of President John F. Kennedy and Senator Ted Kennedy ?

I'm unsure how many people care what happened decades ago to his 'great-uncle' would apply it to today's Kennedy.

that will cling like dogshit to the boots of any Democrat who dares to run for office in a contested race, including Joe. For that purpose, it doesn't matter how many see the movie, as the promotional campaign is sufficient to open the throttle on the swiftboat.

I'm guessing it will bounce from cable to broadcast to youtube etc clear up until Nov. 2020, with accompanying promotion wherever it's "needed." Clearly profit is not the motive here. Another day, another swiftboat special.

They HATE the Clinton's

They HATE the Kennedy's

Wait for it

"no more dynasties, we dont need them" crap, this CRAP will be EVERYWHERE

the BASHING has begun on the young Kennedy, which will of course make me support him more.

ALSO note who poo poo's this move, implying it really wont have any negative impact. NOTE those folks. NOTE THEM


Yes, this issue will tell us mucho about who supports this party and who does NOT

Who financed it?

Production Companies
Apex Entertainment
Chimney (in association with)
DMG Entertainment
Film i Väst (in association with)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5270948/companycredits

Haven't seen the film, so I can't comment on the distortion aspect. But the timing is not coincidental, particularly when there's a rising star from the Kennedy clan. The Kennedy name still carries clout, a powerful aspect about which the GOP is all too aware. What better way to tarnish that name than resurrecting Chappaquiddick.

Opponents can't go after JFK or Bobby Kennedy without risking massive public disgust and outcry. Ted Kennedy has always been fair game from the GOP's perspective and Chappaquiddick has always been the rallying cry. When Ted Kennedy died, the blog posts from Republican critics were afire with this stuff. It was thoroughly disgusting.

That being said, the reviews I've read paint an interesting character study, the last brother following three tragic family deaths, the son deemed the weakest link in a family that had wielded power and respect, even fear at the highest levels.

Of course, if the slant is distorted than that value at the human level will be lost.

...and the acclaimed director of "That Curséd Embargo of 1807"

Followed by a Monica Lewinsky miniseries.

Why keep dragging this old crap through the wringer, over and over and over again!

No matter what your thoughts are on the Chappaquiddick tragedy, no matter who was at fault or how it all came about, this has nothing to do with anyone who is alive today.

Yet the GOP will shamelessly smear the younger Kennedy until half their followers think HE was the one who was in the car that night! They need to be called out on this.

It's an offensive defense against the GOP's tawdry corruption and vileness being exposed by the Trump regime's inept machinations. It's a counter attack on the Democratic Party and all Democrats and liberals as a whole.

We will see more of this in the months and year or so ahead. Mark my words. CNN's American Dynasty: The Kennedy's is doing another good job of creating bad impressions of Democrats in my opinion.

went on to beome, inarguably IMO, the greatest Senator of modern history. He was a prolific author and coauthor of landmark legislation.
http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2009/08/senator-ted-kennedys-legislative-legacy.html

"He (cast) 15,235 votes in the Senate. (Had) 2500 bills authored. 552 cosponsored pieces of legislation passed into law.:

His history as a U.S. Senator was built one vote, one bill, and one act at a time. Here is a sampling of a few of the many laws he helped bring to bear:

Civil Rights Act of 1964
Immigration Act of 1965
Voting Rights Act Extension of 1970
Women, Infants, and Children Nutrition Program of 1972 (WIC)
Civil Rights Commission Act Amendments of 1978
Refugee Act of 1980
Voting Rights Act Amendments of 1982
Civil Rights Restoration Act of 1987
Immigration Act of 1990
Civil Rights Act of 1991
Violence Against Women Act of 1994
No Child Left Behind Act of 2001
Bioterrorism Preparedness Act of 2002
Enhanced Border Security and Visa Reform Act of 2002
Matthew Shepard Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007
Civil Rights Act of 2008
Senator Kennedy chose to define his political identity in the vision of health care reform. His dream was to provide quality, affordable health care options to all Americans and he helped pass landmark legislation in that pursuit.

Medical Device Amendments of 1976
Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA) of 1985
Protection and Advocacy for Mentally Ill Individuals Act of 1986
Nutrition Labeling and Education Act of 1990
Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990
Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency Act of 1990 (Ryan White CARE Act)
National Institutes of Health Revitalization Act of 1993
Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of 1994
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPPA)
Food and Drug Administration Modernization Act of 1997
Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) in 1997
Healthcare Research and Quality Act of 1999
Children's Health Act of 2000
Minority Health and Health Disparities Research and Education Act of 2001
Project BioShield Act of 2003
Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act of 2005
Family Opportunity Act of 2006
Minority Health Improvement and Health Disparity Elimination Act of 2006
FDA Amendments Act of 2007
Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008
"For me, a few hours ago, this campaign came to an end. For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." - Senator Ted Kennedy, 1980, spoken after he withdrew from the 1980 presidential election."

designed to suppress Democratic turnout for the midterms and discourage any Presidential aspirations Joe Kennedy III may have.

As such, I encourage all Democrats to stay away from this film and don't help the right wing thugs.